Archer Forum

Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

ITT: Archers QQing about how much Archers suck in their opinion. Character creation button is right after the login screen and the Wizard forum is 4 forums down guys.

you think most archers find out that archers suck at end game before they hit 80? no.

Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That was aimed at the Achers on this forum crying how Wizard > Archers. I personally love Archers.



Maybe most Archers should work on how well they play and gear their characters. b:chuckle I've seen my superior guild members and fellow 95+ Archers at work in instances/TW and they're not inferior to anyone because of their class and perform very well in both. I'm surprised how you draw your conclusions about endgame @ 85.

maybe because i study classes and i get my info from a higher source? just because i'm not at that point doesnt mean i'm a noob when it comes to my class. no matter how well you play your archer, no matter how sexy your gear is facts is facts. its not so hard to stand behind a bunch of people and shoot in TW... its really not. like i've said in my previous posts, if you hace really good gear, some one with gear was nice as yours would destroy you. and people need to stop saying crying when it comes to actual facts. no ones crying, people need to actually learn what crying means.
wizzard>archer = fact. thats not crying so fall back.

... Take Aim?

bolt of tyresseous is a base damage skill btw (damit tel you beat me to it)

i think theres a post of it zerk criting for 150k or so off a hell spark in the bm fourum

Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And this doesn't count for Wizard how? Did you ever even TW? It doesn't sound like it if you think that all Archers can just stand behind some imaginary line of tanks that people won't be able to penetrate or something. Youtube transcendpw, you'll get a bit of a more realistic view on things.




So you're now claiming any class > Archers. I smell a troll. gb2wizforum.




It would be a fact once it's proven b:chuckle

actually i have done TW a few times. you say that the archers in your guild perform well in TW and instances. trancend is one of the best archers i have ever seen but i can make a pvp video right now of me **** ppl with catch back ground music and look like a really good archer but like i said, its not hard to hit people in tw espeacially if its a mass war. i'm sure trancend cant take a lvl 100 wiz using undine strike, extreme poison then ice dragon (without those handy pk pots she uses). btw if you think YOU will ever be as good as trancend you have another thing comming because i've seen some of the best archers on my server get **** by other classes of their equal level. and i'm not a troll just because i dont drastically over estimate my class, instead of watching a video of a high lvl archer killing people maybe YOU need to get a hold of reality. and it is a proven fact. i've said it, other archers said it, you seem to be the only one thinking that archers are the superior class in the game. at end game some wizards who wear "robes" can have more p def than archers who wear ligth armor, our crits are not that much higher than a wizards non crits. i've seen almost every pvp video from every class in the game and i tell you, besides trancends videos i've seen 2 lvl 150 archers from the private server gank people and perform less efficently than 1 lvl 150 veno with a nix. i've seen a wizard 1 hitting everything by hitting 30k, ive seen a 100+ BM 2 shot a 100+ archer. i've seen a barb take 2 archers and a cleric... shiit a capped lvl cleric can NOT be killed by an archer, pdef is too high, hp too high and the healing is just wonderful. i have watched a pvp war of lvls like 100+ from people on the european server, i'm not saying the archers was the only ones dying but those archers just didnt seem like a factor in that war. they died so fast and did such terrible dmg that i was just ashamed to be one of them. so if your gonna pretend like you have seen more than me and know more than me i suggest you need to watch videos other than transends videos to get a grip on reality... besides i dont think your playing pwi if you think end game archers are epic, you may be playing jade dynasty another game made by the same company.

P.S a lvl 92 bm hitted me harder than any lvl 100 archer did and thats including getting 1 shotted by deigo and asiris.

and i dont wanna hear "private server dont count because it is not the real pwi". yea it isnt the real pwi, but its not much of a difference besides the fast lvling and amount of high lvls.

i dedicate this to all the things you said in your previous posts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO2ipFSsN18

Archers_Soul - Lost City wrote: »

actually i have done TW a few times. you say that the archers in your guild perform well in TW and instances. trancend is one of the best archers i have ever seen but i can make a pvp video right now of me **** ppl with catch back ground music and look like a really good archer but like i said, its not hard to hit people in tw espeacially if its a mass war. i'm sure trancend cant take a lvl 100 wiz using undine strike, extreme poison then ice dragon (without those handy pk pots she uses). btw if you think YOU will ever be as good as trancend you have another thing comming because i've seen some of the best archers on my server get **** by other classes of their equal level. and i'm not a troll just because i dont drastically over estimate my class, instead of watching a video of a high lvl archer killing people maybe YOU need to get a hold of reality. and it is a proven fact. i've said it, other archers said it, you seem to be the only one thinking that archers are the superior class in the game. at end game some wizards who wear "robes" can have more p def than archers who wear ligth armor, our crits are not that much higher than a wizards non crits. i've seen almost every pvp video from every class in the game and i tell you, besides trancends videos i've seen 2 lvl 150 archers from the private server gank people and perform less efficently than 1 lvl 150 veno with a nix. i've seen a wizard 1 hitting everything by hitting 30k, ive seen a 100+ BM 2 shot a 100+ archer. i've seen a barb take 2 archers and a cleric... shiit a capped lvl cleric can NOT be killed by an archer, pdef is too high, hp too high and the healing is just wonderful. i have watched a pvp war of lvls like 100+ from people on the european server, i'm not saying the archers was the only ones dying but those archers just didnt seem like a factor in that war. they died so fast and did such terrible dmg that i was just ashamed to be one of them. so if your gonna pretend like you have seen more than me and know more than me i suggest you need to watch videos other than transends videos to get a grip on reality... besides i dont think your playing pwi if you think end game archers are epic, you may be playing jade dynasty another game made by the same company.

P.S a lvl 92 bm hitted me harder than any lvl 100 archer did and thats including getting 1 shotted by deigo and asiris.

and i dont wanna hear "private server dont count because it is not the real pwi". yea it isnt the real pwi, but its not much of a difference besides the fast lvling and amount of high lvls.

i dedicate this to all the things you said in your previous posts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO2ipFSsN18

tl;dr, use punctuation. I never said Archers were the best class, your write them off as the worst class out there, and make Wizards sound like some godly tanks that hit 30k continuously. Your cool story doesn't list gear used and LOLPSERVER, yeah. As I said, gb2wizforum.

And since we're doing the whole gangster rap ****; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQ2O5P96Xs here's a more fitting one. Limp away homie. Get off my lawn.

Archers_Soul - Lost City wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llR4JBw29Lc OWNED

and for good measure...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XjusBlwOjc&feature=related OWNED

You do realise it doesn't really come across witty if you exclamate that your own videos supposedly "OWN" people, right? b:chuckle

But enough of this petty arguing, you can think that Archers are the worst endgame class based on pserver results. That's fine with me. Let's get back on-topic, whatever that was.

that's like saying every class has skills that disables and allows them to run fast.

alacrity, wings of grace, stunning arrow does not give you an advantage against wizards as opposed to what other classes have in my opinion.

wizards force of will casts faster than stunning, their sophoric has no channel time, and their distance shrink is something like 25m at lvl 10. plus their pdef is yucky fully buffed. hitting 600's on fully buffed 10x wiz for the lose b:surrender

the upside is that with genies and drugs and attack/def charms it makes it easier to kill wizards and survive their nukes if need be. just with raw skills from the class tho it's a lot...less possible...

Incarnata - Harshlands wrote: »

But, of course... Holy Path trumps undine strike.

And archers have several skills that can give them a fighting chance (stunning arrow, elven alacrity, and wings of grace come to mind).

If you think archers suck because they might die when they stand there like fools, getting hit... well, of course you must be right. But ... maybe you should prepare for some frustrating defeats when you meet archers that know how to play.

wizards have a sleeping skill. that skill is enough to make an archer stand there waiting to die.

Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Elven Alacrity.

you wont always be able to use that skill before the wiz tries to sleep. you probably wont have any clue whent the wiz will sleep you being that sleeps are instant cast so you have to guess when to use that skill and chances are if the wiz know what he/she is doing that skill can be waited out. besides a smart wiz would silence befor sleeping to avoid any anti movement debuff resists were used by the opponent. btw if the archer wants to cast that movement debuff resist skill and try to kill the wiz b4 it goes off the wiz can still silence until it times out so GG.

Archers_Soul - Lost City wrote: »

you wont always be able to use that skill before the wiz tries to sleep. you probably wont have any clue whent the wiz will sleep you being that sleeps are instant cast so you have to guess when to use that skill and chances are if the wiz know what he/she is doing that skill can be waited out. besides a smart wiz would silence befor sleeping to avoid any anti movement debuff resists were used by the opponent. btw if the archer wants to cast that movement debuff resist skill and try to kill the wiz b4 it goes off the wiz can still silence until it times out so GG.

Run up to a Wizard with Elven on and open with Stun? derppp, who the hell would stand in their range and then start casting resistance skills?

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

bms stuns is easier to deal with...because they're melee ranged, you can predict when to use your antistuns

wizards have longer range, it's hard to figure out what they're going to do. FML moment if you use anti stun and gets sealed LOL.

if you can't kill a wiz in 10s, then the situation gets rather complicated.

That's explain anything,so whit the wiz is fast duel:kill in 10s or get killed...COOL!!! b:laugh

dont bm's have a 79 skill that seals at a range of 18 meters...isnt that skill spamable every 20 seconds? (smack) 2-3 seconds is all thats needed to close for stuns but since i personaly havent hit endgame yet mabey im dead wrong about this

(goes back to my lvl 71 nub corner)

Kireina - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Run up to a Wizard with Elven on and open with Stun? derppp, who the hell would stand in their range and then start casting resistance skills?

ever heard of distance shrink? yea the wiz have that, not only to distance shrink the wiz can move really far away in an instant. sooner or later your gonna have to attack the wiz and unless your a sage archer you'll deffinately be in range for the wiz to kill you so all that running really isnt useful if your an archer vs a wiz. i fight wizards more than anything, i know what they do, i know how hard they hit and i know pretty much every skill they have and when they would use it.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

you can keep running under seal.

yea you can but by the time its over, your movement debuff resists are off so the wiz can sleep you, so using that speed skill would have been used for a small amount of time running around like a crack head not being able to attack and at the end you'll STILL need to get near the wiz and guess what that wiz gonna do if elven alcrity timed out? exactly what you tried to avoid.