PvP- Cleric vs ??

yup clerics suck, give me OP skills plz.

Disappear - Lost City wrote: »

Non Factor b:chuckle
Nagare lost their land to Harvester
Harvester
Harvester

Nagare recruiting 7x?
7x mage :P
7x could qualifiy for Nagare but I'd rather join Harvester,(obv never will) I mean, clearly you lost your land to them.

Now look at Yellowflash. New CQ!
:O
Silly Non-factor Nagare.

So I was bored and decided to read over everything.


Harvester failed 3 times if I recall correctly. Had to get help from Riot, Merge with Debaser, and even a couple members of CQ and RQ.



Then... We took more time killing Nagare than Harvester during the CQ QQ Bid for the motherland fest! (Albeit we werent taking them seriously)




I love non-factor bicker. Harvester never was a factor, and still isn't. They just like to believe they can do something.




Anyways... Back to topic:


Cleric < Charmed Barb

- No brainer

Cleric = BM

- Depends on how fast a BM can move. With Holy Path clerics have a difficult time sleeping.
- Anti-stun pots help, but its more luck than anything.


Cleric = Archer

- Archers arent scarey end game
- But if an archer manages to stun before plume shell, then their attack rate and critical hits tear right through clerics (despite having more pdef than archers)


Cleric <= Mage

- Mages are the best end-game PVP Class in terms of damage and kill/death ratio


Cleric = Veno

- wood damage?

Cleric <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nix

- The QQ Bird will kill anyone except perhaps a charmed barb with 15K+ HP, even then it'll be pretty close


Cleric = Cleric

- Boring?

What is this double spark you speak of?

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Mages were made to take down high HP classes. DPH FTW



Like a cleric can stop a skill with .5 second channeling? or a instant cast sleep?

there's a difference bewteen stopping an attack, and seeing it coming. I never said I could stop the stun, but i know when they are getting ready to use it, then i pop a fortify. (or get lucky if i spark resist lulz)

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

fortify (if I'm not mistaking is that useless anti-stun genie skill) doesn't help against a wizard.

why wouldnt it?

Edit: if it doesnt, they need to fix that.

Edit2: ah, looked it up, its not a stun, its a silence, good to know ._.

Edit3: im working on getting absolute domain (spellcheck plz) maybe thatll help :P

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

oh....
'cause we don't have any God damn stuns. We have sleep and seal. So in the best case scenario u can use Adrenaline surge, but because that sleep is instant and there is no animation to it, u never know when a wizard will use it, so basically, again, is not of a great help. Has a 30 sec cooldown and eats up 80 energy meaning u can't quit spam it. And from what I know there is no way ( except spark) to avoid a seal. And I haven't seen anyone yet being fast enough to react to a seal cast by sparking in 0.5 seconds.

*poke* i edited a few times, my bad >:

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

there's a difference bewteen stopping an attack, and seeing it coming. I never said I could stop the stun, but i know when they are getting ready to use it, then i pop a fortify. (or get lucky if i spark resist lulz)

So, you can see an instant cast skill? Teach me how!
And a .5 second chan skill? Wow you are so OP!

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

why wouldnt it?

Edit: if it doesnt, they need to fix that.

Edit2: ah, looked it up, its not a stun, its a silence, good to know ._.

Edit3: im working on getting absolute domain (spellcheck plz) maybe thatll help :P

Yes its a silence, wizards only have 1 stun and it takes 6 seconds to use >.> so its not used often. I hope you know what sleep is....
You are the perfect epitome of a ignorant person...maybe i wont count it against you since you dont know what FoW does....maybe that is because you never went against any good wizards...which shows why you put cleric > wizard...ah everything makes sense now.

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

oh....
'cause we don't have any God damn stuns. We have sleep and seal. So in the best case scenario u can use Adrenaline surge, but because that sleep is instant and there is no animation to it, u never know when a wizard will use it, so basically, again, is not of a great help. Has a 30 sec cooldown and eats up 80 energy meaning u can't quit spam it. And from what I know there is no way ( except spark) to avoid a seal. And I haven't seen anyone yet being fast enough to react to a seal cast by sparking in 0.5 seconds.

We have MS ursa, which you should level up >:D. Other than that, +1!

Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

We have MS ursa, which you should level up >:D. Other than that, +1!

and some 20% chances on demon SR, but those are not really reliable stuns. If someone is MS-ing you I think you have more problems to worry about than the stun effect from it.

and Bob, anticipation is a game of luck.Even if u know the player, unless he's a half brained macro ho , u can't tell when he's going to sleep/stun/silence.
U can see on the archers/clerics/bms and usually those 3 classes are doing that first, but with wizard that's very very very hard to do and not worth the 80 energy on your genie to be wasted. Better use it for Absolute Domain or Second Wind, will help for sure and much more than a anti-stun/sleep.

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

wow why are u being such an ****? lol im just discussing strategies ive used to counter mages until u popped ur giant ego head in.

and to the first part, again maybe u dont understand english, Ill dumb it down for you again. I never said I would stop a skill with that "instant" cast. It's called "anticipation". Most of the time you can tell when a bm/wiz is about to try to stun/sleep/silence/whatever.

edit: i think ur being an **** towards me because u have me confused with someone else. You said i did cleric>wiz. I however don't think i voted in this topic. I know wiz>cleric for the most part after 90+

Big Ego? I dont think i stated anything about myself in this thread. Since im in a pretty lenient mood atm, i will take this mistake on my behalf. Maybe i should reword it.
"You can see an instant cast skill coming?"

Ursa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

and some 20% chances on demon SR, but those are not really reliable stuns. If someone is MS-ing you I think you have more problems to worry about than the stun effect from it.

and Bob, anticipation is a game of luck.Even if u know the player, unless he's a half brained macro ho , u can't tell when he's going to sleep/stun/silence.
U can see on the archers/clerics/bms and usually those 3 classes are doing that first, but with wizard that's very very very hard to do and not worth the 80 energy on your genie to be wasted. Better use it for Absolute Domain or Second Wind, will help for sure and much more than a anti-stun/sleep.

Well, some wizards use MS on clerics with sutra just for the stun effect but ya, MS can be pretty damaging with a high level and a good weapon. Great minds think alike Ursa, +1

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

true, but pvp tends to be the same if u fight the same person over an over on my server it seems <_< they tend to do the same thing.

But thank you for talking to me like a human being unlike the 83 wiz

Yes, i noticed this also. People with huge egos use the same kill combo but I try to mix things up. I can make a fight last 3 seconds or i can make it last 5 minutes or maybe 10 minutes. Depends on how much fun im having.

I exhort you to not ingratiate yourself towards Ursa, she is somewhat petulant.

83 wiz soon to be 84 :P

b:chuckle they seem to be the bulliesb:laugh

Disappear - Lost City wrote: »

Thank you.

I was about to head desk at the atrocity that Mages die to clerics b:cry One little Blade tempest and All the hp goes away.


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