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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Raydoit - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh believe me, everyone would love to beat nef.

    But the discrimination in our server prevents us from making a great faction to take on nef. Some think 10 weak factions can beat nef but if you look back when Nef and Legendary were the only 2 no other faction could come close to taking a land except regicide and they did it only a few times.

    Really it varies between different servers. Sanctuary needs something abnormal to happen because no one can take land from nef. If someone did they wouldn't be able to keep it for long. Any hopes for an alliance of the rest of the high levels on the server have been crushed by the obvious discrimination.

    Sounds like LC with CQ.
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  • remorhaz
    remorhaz Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    your guilds in sanc are racially discriminated against? lolwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    Just to clarify, that is not an official response, please refer to my initial response in this threadb:victory

    Thank goodness O_o

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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    remorhaz wrote: »
    your guilds in sanc are racially discriminated against? lolwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

    I didn't say anything about race. Its more the hate that many factions share with each other whether its from current reasons or past faction skirmishes there is too much hate to make a "superfaction".

    I really don't know what we could do. Everyone is so lifeless and ugh....regicide....if they did end up wiping out nef I would have to call that a bittersweet victory on the servers part looking at their rep. We can wait and see what happens when they take the map. Will whats left of Legendary and Regicide be able to take out nef even though they couldn't defend their lands even if their accounts depended on it? Will a lesser faction be able to even survive the towers and 20 nefs? It is doubtful in my eyes. Just gotta hope for something abnormal like Nefarious exploding from the inside or a map reset.

    I mean this whole time no one has said anything that can actually be done except "UNITE AS A SERVER" or "THINK OF A WAY TO DO IT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE". Even if it is possible the server just doesn't care enough to do anything about it. I could go on all day about how unlikely it is to challenge them and I will if people would like to debate this subject. I have nothing better to other than get owned by regi at west arch anyway.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Sinangel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm not sure if this has been posted or not but I figured I might as well ask it.
    The only server which comes close to map dominance by a single faction is sanctuary. What happens if that faction happens to take over all the territories? No where in the territory guide does it have anything about what happens if a single faction controls everything.
    The three projected possibilities are

    1. Map reset, entire map is reset
    2. The guild is broken up after rewarding each member with something to recognize them as controlling the map
    3. nothing happens, the guild farms tw pay week after week until the entire server gives up and moves over leaving 200 people to play in 1 server....

    So I'm wondering what is the actual reward,punishment, or result of taking over the map and holding it for an unlimited amount of time
    You could have just pmed the GMs and asked bluntly "What do we get for taking over the whole map?", than making it seemed like you care even a little outside your faction >>
    Sinangel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    in that case then it's a matter of time until this game dies in level of interest lol. Since there is what you call an "end game" Once a single guild controls an 500 some odd mil per week edge over any other guild, then the advantage in gear, charms becomes compounded weekly. How the hell do you stop a guild when the all the competition can be killed off in 6 minutes? No, I'm acutally hoping that pwi will have some kind of loop or something to keep interest otherwise sanctuary and lost city will die in terms of players. Tw is the big PvP and if you take that out, there is very little fun end game content.
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    are clashing in goals if the end result is the same.
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  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Raydoit - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I mean this whole time no one has said anything that can actually be done except "UNITE AS A SERVER" or "THINK OF A WAY TO DO IT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE". Even if it is possible the server just doesn't care enough to do anything about it.

    Plus I would imagine you have alot of high players sucking up to the top guild trying to get in it, they are scared to make a joint faction incase they fail. Much easier to try and join the already dominate faction then pretend how pr0 you are off the back of their success
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  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Umm... how about make a better faction and beat Sanctuary?
    Reseting the map is not bright in my opinion. All the hardwork and money spent to get that land is rightfully their's until another faction comes along and beats them.

    Ban together and conquer!

    And to answer Op, noting but world dominance.
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  • DeathBanana - Heavens Tear
    DeathBanana - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,674 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Just do it HT style, get EVERYONE to dogpile your top guild. If that doesn't work, enslave them to leveling and then get them to dogpile your top guild.
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I agree that there is nothing that can be done to save Sanctuary / Lost City unless something abnormal happens, or internal faction drama occurs.

    Instead of a reset, I just wish there was no actual limit of battles for defense and offense. I think any faction would have difficulty defending 20+ territories simultaneously. And if a faction could defend the entire map simultaneously, then they totally deserve the map.
  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Umm... how about make a better faction and beat Sanctuary?
    Reseting the map is not bright in my opinion. All the hardwork and money spent to get that land is rightfully their's until another faction comes along and beats them.

    Ban together and conquer!

    And to answer Op, noting but world dominance.

    ^did not read my unreasonably long posts.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    [QUOTE=Raydoit - Sanctuary;5273752I really don't know what we could do. Everyone is so lifeless and ugh....regicide....if they did end up wiping out nef I would have to call that a bittersweet victory on the servers part looking at their rep. We can wait and see what happens when they take the map.[/QUOTE]

    Personally, I happen to LIKE Regicide, and people in Regicide. I know they have had some jerks, but every faction that recruits people sometimes gets jerks.

    (Of course, I also like people I have met, from Nefarious.)
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Nadis - Sanctuary wrote: »
    @Dan
    I dont rly think legendary would want to fight side by side with a faction that took their members and attacked them while they were getting weaker.

    I think you fail see who the real threat is, b:bye.
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    complacency and lethargy shouldn't be reasons for a higher power to step in. nobody started out owning everything. whoever owns the map now worked their way up, fought through whatever obstacles they may had, and conquered the land. if people are discontent with the way their territory map is looking, then they should pull up their pants and do something about it. im sure if they reallocated their energies from asking for a map reset to organizing their heads, they can do something about it. after all, no empire lasts forever.
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  • Neverless - Heavens Tear
    Neverless - Heavens Tear Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You know GM's might just pull the RoC tactic and ban everyone from the dominating faction from the game for a week and in one fell swoop leave areas free to be taken. We can't offically say GM's destroyed RoC seeing how Hong left... But it was a bit odd such a powerful faction would disappear and reform and Enrage... what are they Enraged at...
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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Personally, I happen to LIKE Regicide, and people in Regicide. I know they have had some jerks, but every faction that recruits people sometimes gets jerks.

    (Of course, I also like people I have met, from Nefarious.)

    I have many friends in Nefarious but I still hate what Nefarious is and what it stands for. I have several friends in Regicide (ones who actually don't try to gank me!) as well but still do not like what they are and what they stand for.
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  • riddiculus
    riddiculus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Asperitas - Lost City wrote: »
    complacency and lethargy shouldn't be reasons for a higher power to step in. nobody started out owning everything. whoever owns the map now worked their way up, fought through whatever obstacles they may had, and conquered the land. if people are discontent with the way their territory map is looking, then they should pull up their pants and do something about it. im sure if they reallocated their energies from asking for a map reset to organizing their heads, they can do something about it. after all, no empire lasts forever.

    very true.. they earn their map although u might say they play dirty to earn it but earn it nonetheless... it will b very hard to gather up a force to match nef..might b near impossible atm
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Raydoit - Sanctuary wrote: »
    *picks nose*

    and now Regicide is more hated than Nefarious.

    Is that your own opinion? Or is there a poll out there that states that by general consensus? I'd honestly like to know. ;)
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  • Evga - Sanctuary
    Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 779 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You could have just pmed the GMs and asked bluntly "What do we get for taking over the whole map?", than making it seemed like you care even a little outside your faction >>


    This

    and This
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    are clashing in goals if the end result is the same.

    can i ask something? do you watch and record our chat box on a daily basis?
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Evga - Sanctuary wrote: »
    can i ask something? do you watch and record our chat box on a daily basis?

    /facepalm

    Do you guys make arrogant statements in public channels on a daily basis?
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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Is that your own opinion? Or is there a poll out there that states that by general consensus? I'd honestly like to know. ;)

    Well I base what I say on the people I know. We could throw a poll up if you like. But regardless of its results you can not justify your factions actions. The only thing we have on nef is that they are OP and **** the TW map. What we have on regi is them acting like animals and seemingly intentionally attempting to make the whole server their enemy.
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  • Evga - Sanctuary
    Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 779 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    it's a chat box, it's no suppose to be monitored, so it's more like people measuring the size of their ego and plus this happens only when i talk to sin and meow. other than that, we keep it clean.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Evga - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it's a chat box, it's no suppose to be monitored, so it's more like people measuring the size of their ego and plus this happens only when i talk to sin and meow. other than that, we keep it clean.
    I dont think it matters whether if its a chatbox or a tv or a radio, its a method of spilling out opinions, and the said 'sin' is the OP so. lol did it bother you so much you came out of your usual sanctuary den to the generals section? Thats very rare, since i usually remember who lurks where :P
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  • Evga - Sanctuary
    Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 779 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    hehe, there was a link to this topic that was posted on the forum, so i read and i saw that and i posted :P
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Evga - Sanctuary wrote: »
    hehe, there was a link to this topic that was posted on the forum, so i read and i saw that and i posted :P
    Seeing u here and post was a bit out of the ordinary... so I went to nef forums right now...........and then saw you kinda freak that the chat box wasnt safe! apparently there are watchers!...in chat box b:chuckle In all honesty, you really dont need to worry tho (i think) lol its not like your gonna put strategies and plans there.

    *continues trolling elsewhere*
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    There is very little practical difference between owning all of the map and owning all but one land. There is no automatic system in place so the only possible action would have to be started by GMs. Why would they do that when you hit 100% of land owned and not when you hit 97%?

    If the reason a GM would reset the map is for 'fairness' to other guilds or whatever a 97% controlled map is just as 'unfair' as a 100% so you wouldnt have anything to worry about.

    As it is with the way things have turned out in the server there is very little in the way of things left to accomplish. I recommend you go for it and paint the map red. Try to do it before CQ beats you on LC (good luck with that).

    Heck while you're at it:
    - get BigP or Templar to tank Harpy Wraith for me.
    - fully beat Warsong
    - get more of your 100+ with a 3rd fairy (something not available in the cash shop yet)

    Having a goal is the only reason to keep on playing at this point and total TW dominance over whatever competition is left is as good of a goal as you are going to get at the moment.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Heck while you're at it:
    - get BigP or Templar to tank Harpy Wraith for me.
    why only you QQb:sad
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Evga - Sanctuary wrote: »
    can i ask something? do you watch and record our chat box on a daily basis?
    oh for the record thats not from me lol XD but i did see your chat box today cause u appeared. You need to stop freaking out b:chuckle
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  • Asmathi - Sanctuary
    Asmathi - Sanctuary Posts: 283 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I have an Idea that would make the map a little more colorful and more interesting. Make it like (Another game that shall not be mentioned) and have random TWs.

    Random TWs = You bid on a Territory and make War, on a basis on time.

    Thus, Take the TWs off of one day, and make it at least daily, maybe more.

    Would stop those log-on-once-a-week people.     b:shocked
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  • TehMage - Lost City
    TehMage - Lost City Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    IMO if they made TW's consecutively, as in 20:00, 20:03, 20:06, 20:09 etc. That would make holding all the lands tougher.

    As far as resets I don't think that should be done because of what everyone has gone through to get the land they own currently.
  • riddiculus
    riddiculus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Asmathi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have an Idea that would make the map a little more colorful and more interesting. Make it like (Another game that shall not be mentioned) and have random TWs.

    Random TWs = You bid on a Territory and make War, on a basis on time.

    Thus, Take the TWs off of one day, and make it at least daily, maybe more.

    Would stop those log-on-once-a-week people.     b:shocked

    TW on daily basis would b complicated...n make it less 'special' if you revert it to a daily thing... i personally think tw is something to look forward to at the end of everyweek...

    i think what they need to do is change the system a little bit and make it so that 5 faction could have closely alotted time to attack a territory owner... as it is now.. i c maximum of 3 faction getting almost the same time slot in a particular tw night..eg 20:00 20:06 20:12...If the territory owner can defend 5 factions then they are truely worthy of their territories..

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