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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ehh also me pretty sure about 5 (maybe even less) people can handle any wraith attack.
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    won't really do much overall except feed the defenders exp/spirit.
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  • hallsvaporaction
    hallsvaporaction Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    LOL. you do know that any top guilds can send 10 people and win against a level 3 land right?

    You do know, that any wraith event, if implemented, can have seriously dire odds for the players right? It's not PvP, the devs can make any odds they want to suit the bottom line goal. I'm not saying that they should make it impossible to fight off a resurgence, just enough to absolutely murder a group that didn't bring enough heat to the cookoff.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Raydoit - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Well I dunno about CQ but Nefarious is more or less a faction of High Levels who left their original faction to join the current strongest faction whom was nefarious. That pretty much explains why all the other factions are lacking high levels and Nef is so OP. Its not our servers fault but rather the greed of those paticular people. Is it wrong for them to what they did? not so much, but it is the reason for a lot of the stress in pw and obviously why the tw maps are the way they are.

    CQ = No one under level 90 and about 6-7 pages of level 100-102

    Many of which have been together since Beta.
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    hallsvaporaction wrote: »
    Resetting the map without rewards seems like a harsh penalty on a successful guild. Okay, you've won the war, now you lose everything b:sad

    They could implement some sort of reward system. Like i.e. listing the top faction on a certain list after a set amount of time and then reset. Or anything really.
    It would be like some sort of tourney. It would be still competitive, and you'd still get income from lands. Also PWI would probably receive more income, because more factions would purchase charms since there would be more chance to participate.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    CQ = No one under level 90 and about 6-7 pages of level 100-102

    Many of which have been together since Beta.

    so....CQ might just have more level 100+ then the entire HT server combined? b:shocked
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    so....CQ might just have more level 100+ then the entire HT server combined? b:shocked

    Not sure tbh....
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  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    lame....

    just lame.
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  • Calliope - Heavens Tear
    Calliope - Heavens Tear Posts: 328 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    so....CQ might just have more level 100+ then the entire HT server combined? b:shocked
    It's what, 10 people per page? or 11? I'm not on right now to check. Anyway, Tao has like 4-5 pages of 100-102, and we have a smaller fraction of our server's top 50 than CQ does (but those ranking pages might be out of date).

    So I dunno, HT and LC are probably closer together in terms of high levels than LC people think. Certainly we have more 100+ on our server than CQ has in their guild.
  • Crazydan - Heavens Tear
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,178 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    U must go into their guild stir the pot and in 6 months or so the guild will die b:chuckle.


    Ok But seriously no guild should be strong enough to handle a 3 way gank from the 2 3 4 guilds on the server its just a matter of when and where u bid ;) but less QQ more pming other factions leaders
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Crazydan - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    U must go into their guild stir the pot and in 6 months or so the guild will die b:chuckle.


    Ok But seriously no guild should be strong enough to handle a 3 way gank from the 2 3 4 guilds on the server its just a matter of when and where u bid ;) but less QQ more pming other factions leaders

    The current problem in Sanctuary is that the #2 guild is soloing the #1 guild, while the #3 guild sits back to defend the #4 and #1 guild. and the #5,6,7, are all in bidding wars and trying to take land from the #3 guild. So nothing is really happening on our server, except #1 guild gets more land, #3 guild loses more land, #2 guild landlocked and attacking the #1 guild every week alone.

    Nef hasn't shown it can defend the #2 #3 and #4 guilds at once, the last instance of them opposing all 3 of them was when Reg vs Nef @ Avalanche, Leg vs Nef @ plain of farewell, Recluse vs Nef @ Dragon wilderness. Legendary won quickly in 10 minutes.

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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The current problem in Sanctuary is that the #2 guild is soloing the #1 guild, while the #3 guild sits back to defend the #4 and #1 guild. and the #5,6,7, are all in bidding wars and trying to take land from the #3 guild.

    Nef hasn't shown it can defend the #2 #3 and #4 guilds at once, the last instance of them opposing all 3 of them was when Reg vs Nef @ Avalanche, Leg vs Nef @ plain of farewell, Recluse vs Nef @ Dragon wilderness. Legendary won quickly in 10 minutes.

    We will see when nef gets all the lands and everyone attacks. I highly doubt the #4, #5, #6, #7, #8 factions even pose a threat to nef (perhaps enough to provoke a handful of nef's force) and it won't really help the #2 or #3. Also I bet you anything the leaders of the factions won't even pay attention to their timing and the times will be split to nefs liking. Eventually the expansion will come and everyone will give up until something abnormal happens, except for a few factions. But we shall see.
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  • chelseacrafter
    chelseacrafter Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Having all the territories dominated by one faction is just a huge INCENTIVE for other factions to ORGANIZE, PLAN & CHALLENGE them. That's what the whole thing is about.

    This isn't peewee league baseball where they don't keep score & everyone gets to win every game & so forth so no one's little feelings get stepped on. Competition is what it is... competition. If you fail you fail.

    If you feel dominated & oppressed & left out... it's simple...

    DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. b:chuckle
  • Sinangel - Sanctuary
    Sinangel - Sanctuary Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    but that situation no longer exist. Think back, during that time, nef was the underdog. Legendary was able to win land off nef one on one, so it wasn't really a 3 way bang. The current situation is the number 2, can not longer last 10 minutes against the number 1. It would require some srs work for number 2 to pull up the power lag to recreate the situation when that 3 way banging will work. Also if there is a huge gang up on nef, all that will happen is dilute ur attacking times so there is really 1 or maybe 2 opponents who will take effort at once. It would be impossible unless you some how turn back the hands of time back when it was more or less 2 equal powers. Take lost city, I'm not seeing much land winning with Con facing #2, 3, 4 on the same day. The number 2 or 3 guild is uncertain atm since we haven't seen reg verse leg when it was 1 on 1. IF memory serves, regicide lost...8 minutes into the last nef offensive? With the time lag if tws keep like that, then nef would just roll 1 after the other.
  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    chelseacrafter wrote: »
    Having all the territories dominated by one faction is just a huge INCENTIVE for other factions to ORGANIZE, PLAN & CHALLENGE them.

    *picks nose*

    Yeah that would be nice and all but no one can organize several factions to take out Nef. All the factions are organized by their leaders and most of them are ignorant and lazy. Not to mention all the factions other than regi and Leg are packed with Lvls 60 and under and they STILL don't have 80 who show up for tw. When I left Leg I "visited" several other factions hoping to fire up an underdog faction. I quickly found out All of them are very lazy and uncaring when it comes to TWs. Factions like Dreaming, Audemus (?), Liquid, Balance, ect had like 150 members and only 10-20 show up for TW. Eneylsion was ok but Lacked brute strength, Numbers, and Leadership. Dunno about RedRaiders they seem decent.

    Anyway the point is the server has turned lazy and can care less about TWs. Just look where all the high levels from Legendary and other factions have gone to. They are all spread out in different factions and aren't even logged on for TW nights. The ones who did still care thought it would be a good idea to join regicide (even I tried to join them) and now Regicide is more hated than Nefarious.
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Raydoit - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and now Regicide is more hated than Nefarious.

    Not that surprising, since they got pretty arrogant after kicking a downed man (Legendary). And now they're so desperate they need to recruit the server clown.
  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Not that surprising, since they got pretty arrogant after kicking a downed man (Legendary). And now they're so desperate they need to recruit the server clown.

    That isn't even the main reason. Once they got land they started pking everyone and made many enemies quite fast. (QQing ahead) My old friends from Legendary whom joined regi started pking me for no reason, just out of the blue. Because of behavior like this they got on the whole servers bad side. Now they recruited Wizledd after saying they wouldn't because it would cause many of their members to leave. The recruitment leads me to believe that not all is well in there and their folly is catching up with them. At least a lot of my friends are not pking me anymore (the ones that have left) but I must say regi has made many bad choices since their uprising.

    (why does wizled get in and not me? wtf QQ)
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  • JoHnNyPh - Sanctuary
    JoHnNyPh - Sanctuary Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ToyKitteh - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:laugh What really happens is this: Players get fed up with the tyranny and figure out a way to destroy their oppressor. They organize coos where every weekend the WHOLE of the map is bombarded, TWs on Every land.

    They also send malicious reports about your guild leader, trying to get them banned. They also spam them constantly with hate mail and malicious whispers. Either by banning or annoyance, the guild leader will be forced out of game.

    If it works, guild dissension is imminent. Certain people who think they have the right to lead, or thirst for power, will stand up and try to break up the guild from within. Then these fissures usually wait a week or two and break up the rest of the map into several colors, wherin it becomes easier for little guilds to sneak onto the map during the power guild fights.

    ....and we'll call that option 4.

    some how, this wont work either, nef has had lead changes, and what do you know, we came out stronger because of them. Nef is a family, so trying to force the leader out to drive a wedge between us, just brings us closer together and we retaliate at those responsible harder.
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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    JoHnNyPh - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Nef is a family, so trying to force the leader out to drive a wedge between us, just brings us closer together and we retaliate at those responsible harder.

    Oh wow, I can't believe you said that. Family...lol. I want to beat you so much atm but there is nothing I can do. I really hope this "family" of recently recruited High levels won't be allowed to continue what they are doing to our server.
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  • Nadis - Sanctuary
    Nadis - Sanctuary Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    @sinangel
    *sarcasm* The axe throwing archer will be back once more to defeat nefarious dont worry, we wont leave so early this time... *sarcasm* b:cute

    no rly...if you want any changes maybe you should try...leaving nefarious? and maybe do what seppeku did long time ago, build a new faction with ex-nefs and try to beat em. It's a lot better then asking for a map reset when a faction has been working hard for their red painted map for about a year now and then lose it over a night.

    @Dan
    I dont rly think legendary would want to fight side by side with a faction that took their members and attacked them while they were getting weaker.
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  • Sinangel - Sanctuary
    Sinangel - Sanctuary Posts: 84 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    plz, be less obvious. I already said no to said offers.
  • Axel - Harshlands
    Axel - Harshlands Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Nadis - Sanctuary wrote: »

    no rly...if you want any changes maybe you should try...leaving nefarious? and maybe do what seppeku did long time ago, build a new faction with ex-nefs and try to beat em.

    Seppuku took one land the day I joined Nef, then they got steamrolled into the dirt and a month later, I don't even think they existed anymore. It's all well and good to say "Band together to defeat Nef" but the issue is, Nef has something of a monopoly on high levels that other guilds simply can't compete with, as well as the money to afford to wage a very effective war.

    As for the general question, what I wonder is after the LC and Sanc maps are a solid uniform shade of red, then what? What then is left for the guild controlling it all to do? Another question I wonder about is what the hell did HT do that kept their map so varied? SHARE YOUR SECRETS! b:laugh
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  • Malego - Heavens Tear
    Malego - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Axel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Seppuku took one land the day I joined Nef, then they got steamrolled into the dirt and a month later, I don't even think they existed anymore. It's all well and good to say "Band together to defeat Nef" but the issue is, Nef has something of a monopoly on high levels that other guilds simply can't compete with, as well as the money to afford to wage a very effective war.

    As for the general question, what I wonder is after the LC and Sanc maps are a solid uniform shade of red, then what? What then is left for the guild controlling it all to do? Another question I wonder about is what the hell did HT do that kept their map so varied? SHARE YOUR SECRETS! b:laugh

    Guilds fall apart often. Once any faction on the map shows ANY sign of weakness, most of the server attacks them at the same time.

    People on HT aren't afraid to fight and lose, attacks are constant and most of the time people don't actually want to be in the big land owning faction. It's too easy to win so they join the smaller ones that try to TW each week, creating a ton of very strong factions.

    So far, every single faction that got huge either got knocked off of the map or has only a small amount of lands left.
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  • Sunaro - Lost City
    Sunaro - Lost City Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    A friend of mine, after five days, finally got this response from a GM in regards to what happens when a guild takes over all territories on the map:

    "When a faction has acquired control over all territories, the map will not be reset and the faction will not disband; they will not be punished in any way. Quite the contrary, they will be rewarded by being allowed to keep all their territories. In addition, they will receive double salary, which with the current number of territories, would be 1,115,000,000 per week."

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  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Axel - Harshlands wrote: »
    Another question I wonder about is what the hell did HT do that kept their map so varied? SHARE YOUR SECRETS! b:laugh

    Drama ,QQing and most people hating the others lol
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Sunaro - Lost City wrote: »
    A friend of mine, after five days, finally got this response from a GM in regards to what happens when a guild takes over all territories on the map:

    Just to clarify, that is not an official response, please refer to my initial response in this threadb:victory
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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    The expansion will bring new lands to conquer, but no territory reset is currently planned.

    b:mischievous
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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    boo4u wrote: »
    i think if all land is achieved by a guild i think a reset should be given but not all that guilds land reset..maybe perhaps if a reset happens give them control of a couple territories because even though they are dominant it would be unfair to just snatch away everything that has been rightfully won/defended.

    they must be a very well suited and organized guild because most collapse on themselves no matter how big they are.

    It would be rather disappointing for them yes. However the displeasure of a whole server compared to a faction of greedy high levels is of greater importance.....IMO....if not in everyone's opinion. Besides the reward they got from owning their lands is that mountain of coins.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Why do people want things for free? (a.k.a land)

    I say this because one would think you would get more satisfaction out of beating one of or the "best" guild on the server.

    Besides, even the strongest guild CAN be beat...you just have to find a way to do it.
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  • Raydoit - Sanctuary
    Raydoit - Sanctuary Posts: 377 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Why do people want things for free? (a.k.a land)

    I say this because one would think you would get more satisfaction out of beating one of or the "best" guild on the server.

    Besides, even the strongest guild CAN be beat...you just have to find a way to do it.

    Oh believe me, everyone would love to beat nef.

    But the discrimination in our server prevents us from making a great faction to take on nef. Some think 10 weak factions can beat nef. But if you look back when Nef and Legendary were the only 2, no other faction could come close to taking a land except regicide and they did it only a few times.

    Really it varies between different servers. Sanctuary needs something abnormal to happen because no one can take land from nef. If someone did they wouldn't be able to keep it for long. Any hopes for an alliance of the rest of the high levels on the server have been crushed by the obvious discrimination.
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