Do you feel this game is balanced and fair?
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GMs do nothing about this, so dont tired yourself trying... Their pockets are full now, and thats all they want ... Its a game, and now a PP one, but what the heck right ?? ... Free MMO .. Where ??? b:surrender
I ll keep playing until i get bored, so no matter to me...
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I feel that the game may have gotten a little imbalanced in terms of end-game gear availability, but
I'd play this game just for the community alone. It's so much better on average than any other game I've played tbh. b:thanks0 -
INFLATION! A full TW map put in a good amount of money PER WEEK and without any decent coin sink, prices will KEEP RISING. L2Econ. b:bye
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The good old days are gone for good. Saw this coming and it has been like 4 mths since i step foot into pwi. Going back now seems ****0
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Thirion - Dreamweaver wrote: »there is a way to make the game more balanced. ofcorse.
but it require the intervention of the game admins/moderators.
Do they care? The life expectancy of any free to play game with cash shop items is generally short.
The companies making them find it more profitable to let them die after a few years and make new games in the meantime, so that players will move to those new games and spend money again on these. Why do you think so many bugs were never fixed, even if some goes back to when the game opened in China?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »
i've tried to recapture the lighthearted freedom of the first days, by starting new alts, but it isnt the same...now i worry about having enough storage (funny, i didnt back then, was fine with what i had from banker quests), never looked at the weeds after i was done with quests needed them, did fine with armour i got in drops....now i play new alts seriously. so that in itself is not the fault of the commercialism, but just me. but the biggest problem i find outside of the money grubbing of company and AH is that fellow players are not as friendly and helpful as they were in the beginning. back then, and even into the 60s, people enjoyed each other's company, wanted to help just to help. i remember going out with friends who had the same level quests, and we could finish up our quests in a snap. now? no one wants to do this....everyone seems to be 'stay away from me', standoffish and suspicious. what happened to the days when you would give a charm to a struggling fellow player, and they would later pass on the favour to another player?
its sad now, in so many ways.
but still, i am here. why? because this is still the most beautiful game around.
I did make an alt too to try and recapture "the innocence days" unfortunately it didnt feel the same in so many ways
And yes this is the most beautiful F2P game around but nothing stays the same forever and once "greed" in its various forms has taken over so many other important factors, i.e favors, sharing, helping, lending, etc. it usually gets ugly, very ugly, fast, very fast...
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wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »the Posts In This Thread Made Me Laugh B:chuckle
Hmmm Lemme Remember An Mmo That You Cant Get In Game Currency For Real Money...oooops There Isnt One.
I Would Consider This Game Unbalanced If The Csers Could Buy Things Unobtainable By Any Other Means. There Arent Any, Are They?
yes There Are. They've Gimped Frost Drops, And Warsoul Is Now Available Via Cs For Example.
I Dont Fckn Care If Its Hard To Obtain Some Items, They Should Be.
that's Just The Point. They're Not Anymore.
Now Look It This Way: Someone Spends A Lot Of Hours Going To Work. He's Propably Got To Spend 8+ Hours With Ppl He Doesnt Even Like, Do Some Dull Work Etc Etc. Now That Man Decides To Spend That Hard Earned Money On A Game That Entairtains Him.
Why The **** Should Some Kid Playing Pwi 24/7 Get The Same Things Without Working His **** Off In Game?! Would You Consider This Fair?
i Would Consider This Fair. It's Called Playing The Game.
You Got A Problem Pking Someone With Uber Gear? Teamwork > Cash! Call A Friend And **** Teh **** Out Of Him! Mmos R All About Teamwork, Rambos Always Fail No Matter How Much Money They Put On A Game.
My Only Point Against This Game Is Charms. They Should Make Em Availiable Through An Npc In Game. I Would Be Fully Satisfied With That!
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+100000 I hav been telling every1 that doesnt matter how strong your opponent is, this game is all about team work nd its certainly full of ppl that think they can beat every single player in pvp or any other game related thing...doesnt work like that.Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »The posts in this thread made me laugh b:chuckle
Hmmm lemme remember an mmo that you cant get in game currency for real money...oooops there isnt one.
I would consider this game unbalanced if the CSers could buy things unobtainable by any other means. There arent any, are they?
I dont fckn care if its hard to obtain some items, they SHOULD be.
Now look it this way: Someone spends a lot of hours going to work. He's propably got to spend 8+ hours with ppl he doesnt even like, do some dull work etc etc. Now that man decides to spend that hard earned money on a game that entairtains him.
Why the **** should some kid playing PWI 24/7 get the same things without working his **** off in game?! Would you consider this fair?
You got a problem pking someone with uber gear? Teamwork > Cash! Call a friend and **** teh **** out of him! MMOs r all about teamwork, Rambos always fail no matter how much money they put on a game.
My only point against this game is Charms. They SHOULD make em availiable through an NPC in game. I would be fully satisfied with that!
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This game has lost it. I HATE it when ppl oracle to high lvls when they absolutely fail at their class. For example, getting Sage that took me like 2 months to get from lvl 80 - 89(I forgot how long lol), someone achieve in like a day due to oracles and anni packs. Now ppl think they are waaaaaaay better than me because of the anni packs. I have to work for Sage books compare to someone who uses CS and gets basically all of them. I still feel a sense of accomplishment, but usually is put down by someone who said "Wow I got it already, thanks to anni packs." I'm a fail barb now since anni packs.
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=Knownase - Heavens Tear;5116002]I still feel a sense of accomplishment, but usually is put down by someone who said "Wow I got it already, thanks to anni packs." I'm a fail barb now since anni packs.
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until they rush a pack of mobs in a TT or FC run while in human form, and manage to get a party wipe since they have no idea how to do crowd control and aggro management...
I have partied with quite a few of those players.... I would rather take a level 80+ barb that knows how to play his class, than a level 100 barb with all the skills that is clueless.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
Wolfgore - Heavens Tear wrote: »The posts in this thread made me laugh b:chuckle
Hmmm lemme remember an mmo that you cant get in game currency for real money...oooops there isnt one.
I would consider this game unbalanced if the CSers could buy things unobtainable by any other means. There arent any, are they?
I dont fckn care if its hard to obtain some items, they SHOULD be.
Now look it this way: Someone spends a lot of hours going to work. He's propably got to spend 8+ hours with ppl he doesnt even like, do some dull work etc etc. Now that man decides to spend that hard earned money on a game that entairtains him.
Why the **** should some kid playing PWI 24/7 get the same things without working his **** off in game?! Would you consider this fair?
You got a problem pking someone with uber gear? Teamwork > Cash! Call a friend and **** teh **** out of him! MMOs r all about teamwork, Rambos always fail no matter how much money they put on a game.
My only point against this game is Charms. They SHOULD make em availiable through an NPC in game. I would be fully satisfied with that!
b:victory Peace
what made a lot of people leave is that stuff happens that wastes the time of everyone who tried to achieve something. cash shopper or not, everyone is affected by this. did you know that someone was able to get lunar equipment by actually running lunar glades a few days before packs? how much time do you think those players just wasted? how much charm and money? or how about finally getting voidlands (with no small amounts of gold spent) only to have the lvl 6 tomes come out winnable through packs? you know that player could probably have saved a lot of money if he bought the lvl 6 tome with in-game coin instead of making voidlands right? you saved up for a long time for tome frags, bought a lot of tome pages with gold, then LOL LVL 6 TOMES. how does that make you feel?
hypothetical scenario: if legendary pet eggs were droppable by the next event pack for 1 gold, nix/herc egg ticket's in-game prices go way down such that you can sell a lot less than 200 gold and obtain the tickets in-game, wouldn't some people who paid 200 bucks be pissed?
this is the kind of thing that pisses people off, and if you haven't figured out already, it has nothing to do with p2p or f2p. the only message that comes out of the packs and certain previous updates is, just let the game hand stuff to you - that is what i complain about.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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yes u do notice i don't pk but in TW u do notice too
ppl with money oracle their way to 100 (yes that's crazy)
ppl with money get all their crazy gear refined way up there etc etc
don't give me that **** about this game is all about teamwork
try ganking a all geared up barb with 5 ppl or maybe even a cleric or other weak def class , if they're geared up they're gonna kick your ****
your right it's kinda balanced because we can get everything everyone else can get theoreticly but that's just a ****** comment
if you want to obtain the stuf like warsong necklace or whatever and lunar weapon and lunar ornaments etc etc it's almost as hard as obtaining a warsoul weapons if u can't get the things with real life money
in my opinion this game's TW future :
TW now : if u want to get in good TW guild = u need to have good lvl
TW in future: no lunar gear (or some other crazy sh*t) = no TW guild
you are gonna have to have really kick **** gear to be able to get into a decent TW faction , lvl is gonna be useless because everyone is gonna be around lvl 100thanks to forsaken for this awesome sig b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Inias - Heavens Tear wrote: »in my opinion this game's TW future :
TW now : if u want to get in good TW guild = u need to have good lvl
TW in future: no lunar gear (or some other crazy sh*t) = no TW guild
you are gonna have to have really kick **** gear to be able to get into a decent TW faction , lvl is gonna be useless because everyone is gonna be around lvl 100
It is fairly obvious that once most players are in the 100s, that the recruiting for the top guilds will change from level to something else....
However, if you were to look at the gear that the players in those top TW guilds already use, you would get an idea that they are already using top notch gear, so not much will change. Also, for those TW factions, you can only get in by invite, I am sure they do not recruit random people just because they are level whatever.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »It is fairly obvious that once most players are in the 100s, that the recruiting for the top guilds will change from level to something else....
However, if you were to look at the gear that the players in those top TW guilds already use, you would get an idea that they are already using top notch gear, so not much will change. Also, for those TW factions, you can only get in by invite, I am sure they do not recruit random people just because they are level whatever.
on my server, 1 guild had completed lunar before packs and had the gear, no one else.
on the other hand, the most powerful guild on my server completed lunar sometime during the 2nd pack release, probably already wearing the lunar gear they got from packs. they wouldn't have had "top-notch" gear over the guild that finished lunar if it weren't for these packs.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
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Inias - Heavens Tear wrote: »try ganking a all geared up barb with 5 ppl or maybe even a cleric or other weak def class , if they're geared up they're gonna kick your ****
your right it's kinda balanced because we can get everything everyone else can get theoreticly but that's just a ****** comment
Agreed. I've even seen charmed wizzies and clerics who've cashed shopped like crazy tanking 5 average players of any class at once, one shotting a few of them off, then picking off the remaining few at their lesiure, completely invulnerable behind their charm.
And agreed on second part too, it's like players who say grinding rank 8 or farming warsoul is possible and it's good it's so difficult. In my eyes, a requirement of several years non-stop/sleep/food gaming to get a single item is pretty much an unattainable goal.0 -
Yea, now you see every high lvl archer with those Heaven Shatterer (or whatever its called) and now they just pwn... b:surrender
Since the anni packs were around for 2 months, they should just give the gear now for free.b:bye
If anni packs come back again...
Oh well, im not a cash shopper, I'm just gonna stay nooby and let the oracle noobs tell me how much better they are then me. Woot!!! Im looking forward to that.b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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the game was unbalanced before, but the anni packs destroyed any hope of righting it. the rot began with the first weekend sale of feathers and SoFs, and anni packs are the latest example. i well remember posts of just a few months ago, discussions about how nearly impossible it would be for anyone to have warsoul weapons, that it would take a large guild a year at least to collect the materials to make just one (this is almost a direct quote-wish i could find the original post, sorry). now they are out there, along with the other weapons and equipment that was once to be the hallmark of the dedicated player. now, they are in the hands of any idiot with a dollar to spend in the CS. where is the balance in that? some of us have worked to earn what we have....while others take out a credit card and buy the game.
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »what made a lot of people leave is that stuff happens that wastes the time of everyone who tried to achieve something. cash shopper or not, everyone is affected by this. did you know that someone was able to get lunar equipment by actually running lunar glades a few days before packs? how much time do you think those players just wasted? how much charm and money? or how about finally getting voidlands (with no small amounts of gold spent) only to have the lvl 6 tomes come out winnable through packs? you know that player could probably have saved a lot of money if he bought the lvl 6 tome with in-game coin instead of making voidlands right? you saved up for a long time for tome frags, bought a lot of tome pages with gold, then LOL LVL 6 TOMES. how does that make you feel?
hypothetical scenario: if legendary pet eggs were droppable by the next event pack for 1 gold, nix/herc egg ticket's in-game prices go way down such that you can sell a lot less than 200 gold and obtain the tickets in-game, wouldn't some people who paid 200 bucks be pissed?
this is the kind of thing that pisses people off, and if you haven't figured out already, it has nothing to do with p2p or f2p. the only message that comes out of the packs and certain previous updates is, just let the game hand stuff to you - that is what i complain about.
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Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »hypothetical scenario: if legendary pet eggs were droppable by the next event pack for 1 gold, nix/herc egg ticket's in-game prices go way down such that you can sell a lot less than 200 gold and obtain the tickets in-game, wouldn't some people who paid 200 bucks be pissed?
All venos would throw a party. Every single one of them would finaly be able to get a phoenix, as well a back-up nix, and a couple of back up hercs.
I am sure you would not see a single veno complaining about it, we would be too busy getting additional legendary pets to setup for different roles.
However, you would see tons of posts of people saying how it was not fair for venos to get their toys from CS while they cannot get their gear/weapon from CS (remember those threads long ago?), and everyone would forget that they complained for weeks about the AnyPacks that gave them a chance to get nice gear.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
The real unbalance is yet to come b:chuckle Til then, be glad its way balanced as it is, right now b:victory0
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I FREAKIN ABSOLUTELY REMEMBER THOSE DAYS >=(
Cotto, i should really add u to meh friends list xD
now, as my friend said...
"free to play usually means pay to win" Dang!...I just lost my train of thought...0 -
Free to play... pay to win i still the quote here...
if u want to b the best n ur not a cashshopper.. forget it
if u want to accomplish your OWN personal goal and just hav fun interaction with players..its still doable...
eg..want to get that tt90 gear?? find a bunch of ppl that share the same goal as you and do it slowly... if u can get those without CSing ... the sense of accomplishment is still there!!
on a sidenote... pvpers would more likely find the game more unbalanced now if you dont CS just becoz ull get owned by the CSers with ultimate gear...
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i think that it would be a very good thing if the hercs/phoenixes would be made that accessable. then the playing field would be leveled once again, and the herc put back where it should be-as a *pet*, not a yellow god that all barbs should take second place to. with venos all having them, it would once again be venos working together with the team, with the barb, rather than acting as barbs themselves. nothing is worse than a veno with a herc who doesnt know how to handle it...stealing aggro and getting itself killed, or squad members....its a good pet, but still a pet, a tool. if more had the same tools, the game would be better balanced. i know people wont agree, but it really seems one of the biggest problems, one of the things that really divides players into filthy rich and struggling players....
(gets behind flame proof barrier, awaits barrage of hate mail)IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »All venos would throw a party. Every single one of them would finaly be able to get a phoenix, as well a back-up nix, and a couple of back up hercs.
I am sure you would not see a single veno complaining about it, we would be too busy getting additional legendary pets to setup for different roles.
However, you would see tons of posts of people saying how it was not fair for venos to get their toys from CS while they cannot get their gear/weapon from CS (remember those threads long ago?), and everyone would forget that they complained for weeks about the AnyPacks that gave them a chance to get nice gear.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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All this crying about "balanced and fair" waaah waaah... Balanced and fair exists only in a fool's paradise. If you take a different look at this situation. Survival of the fittest is the best philosophy. It will stop arguments in their tracks.
Just as in real life. The leaders in PWI will always be the strongest and richest and most resourceful. Anyone that falls behind will have to deal with their repercussions and adjust to try and keep surviving. They've set the pace.. all we can do is try and catch up. The train has left the station so all we can do now is try and jump in before it's out of our reach (lol I could come up with more metaphors..but i'll spare you) xD
It's not how far you go that matters to me, but how much you learn on the way. Till you either finish (whatever that may be in this game) or die (quit...move on. etc)
Now try and look at it that way. Balanced and fair-- BAH!! rofl0 -
I don't take games to the extreme like you do and other people.
So to answer your question I don't care, Don't think about it, Why do you give a **** about if it's balanced and fair?If anniversary pack threads keep getting made I'll keep trolling them until there isn't anymore!b:bye0 -
no. this is not a fools paradise.
its Perfect World.
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and it CAN be....i know, i've been here longer than most. i remember.Mephistic - Dreamweaver wrote: »All this crying about "balanced and fair" waaah waaah... Balanced and fair exists only in a fool's paradise. If you take a different look at this situation. Survival of the fittest is the best philosophy. It will stop arguments in their tracks.
Just as in real life. The leaders in PWI will always be the strongest and richest and most resourceful. Anyone that falls behind will have to deal with their repercussions and adjust to try and keep surviving. They've set the pace.. all we can do is try and catch up. The train has left the station so all we can do now is try and jump in before it's out of our reach (lol I could come up with more metaphors..but i'll spare you) xD
It's not how far you go that matters to me, but how much you learn on the way. Till you either finish (whatever that may be in this game) or die (quit...move on. etc)
Now try and look at it that way. Balanced and fair-- BAH!! rofl[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »no. this is not a fools paradise.
its Perfect World.
and it CAN be....i know, i've been here longer than most. i remember.
ROFL! FoxRunning, you are one evil evil creation xD. Sprinkling songs of joy and contentment into my dose of reality. b:irritated
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What you remember is nothing more than a memory now. I was also there at the time you speak of. No guarantee it will ever be the same, all we can do is hope. Till that day comes (or doesn't), I will be a realist and keeps my eyes on the road and not in the clouds
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Nothing is balanced and fair, it doesn't matter what it is. Someone will always have a advantage over you and someone will have a advantage over them. Welcome to Earth.0
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