Version 188 Bug List / Discussion

BEFORE

"Tree of Protection - Increases max HP by 15% for 5 seconds.
Restores 25% of your max HP every 3 seconds for 6 seconds.
Dexterity: Every 40 Genie Dexterity points increases the max HP duration by 1 second."

and AFTER

"Tree of Protection - Reduced base energy cost to 70. Increased base Stamina cost to 700. Requisite Affinity: Wood 3, Water 4.
Genie Strength determines Max HP increase. Genie Dexterity determines the amount of HP restored during the effect."

i want the old one back b:sad

HUM....Why GM doesn t consult player before to do such changes. It would avoid some problems such as turning the good genie skills that worked well into..., well i guess i can t say that word here.b:shutupb:surrender

AND well there is still more bug coming with updates than removed. Now i stop to complain, hoppe you know most of players are whining after each update.

you have it really put it well. and i totally agree. as if the month long gambling sale isnt bad enough, today we now have the wonderful chance to spend $50 a pop on mounts that others have been getting by gambling by buying cash/zen cards at stores.

one gambling scheme after another..... oh, but the PWI management will deny that to their last breath, im sure, because this isnt licensed as a gambling game. but plain and simple truth is that the aniversary packs, the rainbow eggs, the zen cards, etc, all are gambels that make the player think, 'just one more, then surely i'll get ***'. guess what? everyone knows, or should know, the odds are ALWAYS in favour of the house, not the player.

the genies are screwed up, so that those who depended on ToP now have to shell out RL money or tons of ingame coin for charms to be able to stay alive in tight spots. my son is a barb, and a damn good one, and this was the last straw for him. barbs have enough trouble with money making/staying solvent as it is, with high repair bills and all...many of those i know have to run other alts to pay the barb's bills. so now, thanks to the greed of the management of PWI, i have lost the pleasure of my son's company, playing this game. he has moved on, to some dumb space game that truly IS free-no cash shop at all.

my husband has put a lot of money into this game already, because it has been a great source of fun and pleasure to play with my family here-at one point, we had five of our family of six playing characters of all sorts: clerics, archers, barbs, venos, wizards, blades. it was a wonderful experience to have all of us having fun with the same game. this also was a great help to me in dealing with my depression.(at least until the herc became de rigeur for all venos). so i feel that we have a hell of an investment here, and it saddens and sickens me to see what is being done to this wonderful, beautiful game that i have played for almost a year.

we keep seeing "happy anniversary!" all the time....how about PWI give ALL of US...the ones who play the game....presents in the form of :

*fixing all the glitches, bugs, nerfs that have accumulated over the past year

*putting in the mobs, items, mats, drops and other things that are listed in the AH and the database as beloning to this version but arent found anywhere yet.

*doing something to put the economy back to the levels it was a year ago, when the game began, and put some kind of price caps on everything, to stop the insane inflation. its a sure bet that adults dont enjoy coming here from the pain of the RL inflation, only to find it here as well. no bloody wonder players are leaving....im sick of losing friends, literally sick.

PLEASE, GMs, pass along to the devs and Powers That Be of the company that they are killing the golden goose. some of us love this game, dont want to leave, but cant handle the situation as is.

Shazamm - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Ok, I've just about had it... too many F-Ups!

Breaking more than what you fix with maintenance (if you can call them that) releases is getting really old. I've grown quite tired of spending my money on a game where obvious little testing is done to ensure that things still work properly. (Have you seen the list of **** that's not working that your customers are running into??? A little testing would have revealed that this maintenance was wayyy too FAIL to release.) Also, changing the functionality of different aspects of the game (Holy Path for example) was also not a good move IMO.

Oh and let's not forget to mention the total cluster of again causing economic INFLATION with this "ONE Month" aniversary event. What a freakin-Total money making scheme that really separates its players into widely separated social classes - the HAVE's that can afford the FINEST things in the game and the Have-Nots that cannot afford to shell out the 100s of bucks (or spend all of their in-game coin on 400K Gold) on chances of getting valuable items.

Overall, the game is one of the best out there, but lately, I'm starting to think you're losing your edge, PWI. When you're breaking too many things with bugs, causing extreme inflation and changing what's good in the game to not-so-good, it makes me wanna consider my options.

I don't usually speak out on such things, but I've just about had it...so please think a little more about planning out your next move "B4" you do it, test it to make sure it works in a testing environment (test servers) first and then execute. No more of this flying by the seat of ur **** implementation stuff, please.

I don't think I'll be playing as much until you get things situated/fixed.

Thank you,

-ShaZ

that was touching indeed

FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »

the genies are screwed up, so that those who depended on ToP now have to shell out RL money or tons of ingame coin for charms to be able to stay alive in tight spots. my son is a barb, and a damn good one, and this was the last straw for him. barbs have enough trouble with money making/staying solvent as it is, with high repair bills and all...many of those i know have to run other alts to pay the barb's bills. so now, thanks to the greed of the management of PWI, i have lost the pleasure of my son's company, playing this game. he has moved on, to some dumb space game that truly IS free-no cash shop at all.

In a way, the change to tree HELPS barbs use it to conserve charms. Rather than being forced to rely on the hp percent increase for the heal, it's now possible to avoid that. A tree 10 was a guaranteed charm tick previously, and most barbs would have to keep tree low to avoid having it tick a charm (if that was their goal of the skill). A genie with Tree 7 and 5 str/80 dex, will get a 55.68% heal with tree as it is now, previously a level 1 tree with 40 dex would provide a 57.5% heal. Essentially the same thing. A tree 10 now with 5 str/80 dex could be used for a 69.6% heal, without going over a 32% hp boost. In addition to that, there's the instant 1740 heal (though it requires strength) that could be used for avoiding charm ticks too.

The only Barbs I know though, don't have trouble making money. Getting first pick of drops, running with good healers, and most importantly running with regular squads that are willing to cover all expenses first, and then split the remaining stuff make very big differences for high expense classes. Not to mention little things like stun locking mobs, pulling groups of mobs (yes, it's cheaper than one at a time... luring singles=higher overall expense and slower kills), and even having pets tank mobs can all contribute greatly to reducing costs.

*putting in the mobs, items, mats, drops and other things that are listed in the AH and the database as beloning to this version but arent found anywhere yet.

The AH I agree with, it should reflect what's in the game, I find some pet eggs that don't exist to be rather annoying, and stats in pet egg type mouse overs in the AH being wrong is just poor QA. The DB isn't an official release from PWI so there's no reason game content should reflect what it states (to the benefit or detriment or players).

*doing something to put the economy back to the levels it was a year ago, when the game began, and put some kind of price caps on everything, to stop the insane inflation. its a sure bet that adults dont enjoy coming here from the pain of the RL inflation, only to find it here as well. no bloody wonder players are leaving....im sick of losing friends, literally sick.

Price caps make gold issues worse. Rather than having a bid system, it effectively puts everyone at the max price for gold and creates long queues. That has the potential to create days, weeks, even months (though months are unlikely) wait times for gold through the trader. Additionally, it would effectively kill an automated and secure gold trading system, by simply moving higher bids to chat in arch where players can scam, or feel free to pay more for gold. In short, caps would bring a lot of hurt, for little if any gain.

PWI - Yeah, you need a level 31 genie to use that skill.

Me - ......

PWI - Didn't you read the patch notes

Me - No I kinda expected you to support your players during a major change in game play by at least getting the in game documentation correct.

Agree with this 100%. Changing genies, only changing some ingame documentation (none in the genie skill window), and then not even providing a detailed explanation of what each skill does in the patch notes they gave us outside of the game is horrible. I can (sort of) understand if the devs in china haven't changed things ingame to reflect new genie stats, and that change was tied into other things they had to patch, but it feels like PWI really had no interest at all in telling us what genie changes did between in game descriptions and the notes. I mean, Lightning Chaser doesn't even tell you the percent chance for an interrupt when you have the skill... that's even worse than tree, where it would at least tell you what it does and how it works after you buy it.

Barbarians perdition was nerfed, so I think they hav to increase the dmg a lil bit
Barbarians high phy def doesnt workb:laugh
Sandstorm jus works with a hammer now :O

I m using Watcher of the Skies so i dont know if anyone else has same problem. But i stuck everytime i land on a NPC. I have remove my wings, run to another spot (not just jumping down) and then i can fly up again. Its a bit of annyoing when you try to do WQ very fast....

Glitches i've experienced
Periodically bald hair, but only on one char. This is happening to other players I know as well; fine on one of their characters not the other. The baldness is visible to other players b:shocked so its not my graphics card or other pc related issue

Delayed skill animations about 4-5sec this is really throwing me off, mostly on my bm I think though i have notice with veno for fox form as well

Glitches from past patches still not fixed,
Rubber band effect when going into fly mode
Most frustrating, PWI crashing 90% of the time once it's been minimised and you try to reopen b:angry and the number of bug reports i've sent through b:shutup This should be most awesome when it comes to the picture hunt and you have to go into the forums to see the picture than back to pwi, oh wait it crashed. Expecting all lot of d/c <.< Not to mention the huge increase in random disconnects, especially noticing in the dungeons since that's when i'm usually in squad. This issue getting unbareably lame b:beatup

o_O i think the TT Mats section is missing from the AH b:angry

Ikens - Harshlands wrote: »

It's at materials -> others -> Twilight.T or so now. Found it after 5 minutes of searching b:chuckle

Well didnt check after patch but wasnt it under Elite instance? why changing it? makes no sence at all....-.- like they changed it cause they had no other **** to do

Never hear of the saying "If it isnt broke, dont fix it"? That would apply to the Genie skills. Tree of Protection is just fail now, as well as Holy Path. But I think Tree takes the cake.

Not only is it way less effective, it now costs more, and needs a higher lvl to even use it? wow. But its not just that. I log in and start playing like nothing changed, smack my ToP button, and it works. It is no where near as good as its been, but it works.

A faction member tells me that their ToP isnt working, and that they had to add 2 water affinity due to the new changes. I dont have 4 water affinity on my genie, however ToP works. Odd.

So i go to the watcher and reset all my affinity to zero. My Extreme Poison and my Holy Phail icons gray out, but not my ToP. Odd.

I click ToP icon, with zero affinity mind you, and my ToP still works. Odd.

My girlfriend, with a lvl 51 genie, resets her genie to the propper new affinity to use ToP and still cant use it. Genie is over lvl 31, ToP lvl6, plenty of energy and stamina, click the ToP icon... "Unable to use genie skill".




Brothermyst

oh, i'll add a screenie after i do errands... I have a lvl 50 genie with lvl 10 Tree of Protection...

I figured out why others are having issues with ToP not working, with a lvl 31+ genie...

Before the update your ToP could be lvl 9 at lvl 50 genie... after update lvl 9 wold require genie lvl 66.

So if your genie has a ToP leveled before the update, it could be too high a ToP lvl for your genie to use after update.

This still dosent explain how my lvl 50 genie, with maxed post update lvl9 ToP still uses that ToP after the update, or used ToP at all with no affinity.

Just for [removed] and giggles i checked ToP in watcher... I was given the option to get lvl 10 ToP with a lvl 50 genie...

I got it and it STILL works, its a lvl 71 req. skill

Screenie to follow.

Brothermyst.

Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

yet another patch with multiple bugs yet again. 5 patches in a row that adds bugs? Way to raise the bar devs.

b:bye Bob!!!! b:kiss

Miss you b:sad

b:heart's

cleaned the thread, please do not circumvent the profanity filter

I'm not going to lie, some of the genie skills were overpowered.