PWI is NOT dead...Nor Dying..

Some people really don't want to leave but are almost forced to. Some people a day before the patch were adamant in staying with pwi for as long as possible. In 1 day their view took a complete 180. Now after spending 1 year playing this game religiously every thing they looked forward to is up in flames in 1 day. Some people won't just quietly leave and aren't going to abandon hope just yet. I don't see very many 'omgz pwi sucks im leaving' posts. Instead I see people saying their goodbyes or people at least trying to see what will come of this patch. People are complaining that the game has gone to **** but they aren't qqing like you said. Giving your opinion and posting angry qq's is completely different.

MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Some of us would like to make our opinions known before we leave. Is your concept of dignity against freedom of speech?

Nope my concept of dignity is

(n.) Quality suited to inspire respect

and btw there's no such thing as freedom of speech on private forums

To those who keep whining about the whining:

Irony (from the Ancient Greek, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance) is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity or discordance between what one says or does and what one means or what is generally understood. Irony is a mode of expression that calls attention to the character's knowledge and that of the audience.

Take your own advice, if you don't like it then: GTFO.

Falls - Sanctuary wrote: »

To those who keep whining about the whining:

Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōne

As devoted said.. its not whining, we are giving our opinion's b:pleased

Ruax - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As devoted said.. its not whining, we are giving our opinion's b:pleased

I don't know if you're kidding.

Devoted - Lost City wrote: »

Me neither ;_;


so im just gonna say

i told u so

Good call man

Dustinmurphy - Harshlands wrote: »

can't help it im addicted to the forum more then the game atm

b:laugh

10char

Redmenace - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I never claimed all high-levels are condescending. But I've witnessed a few here, and don't understand the attitude.

But you see, this is the root of what I'm trying to say.

Many here are gaugeing their sucesses on having something someone else *doesn't* have - and not considering "working hard for something really difficult and accomplishing something impressive for yourself" to be sufficent.

If someone else shortcuts their way to this, that's their loss. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing because you did it yourself, not because you're the only one to get there.

Once Everest was climbed (clumb?) why did anyone try to climb it afterwards? It had been done already - what makes the "Second person to climb Everest" want to go there?

And if some multi-millionaire goob charters a helicopter to get him 3/4 up the mountain, and has a group of 8 people help him climb, and does it with oxygen, and gets there too - does that make you feel cheated? Does that somehow lessen what you have done?

Or does that make him a loser - unwilling to put in the effort to do it as you have done?

So he's a loser. That's his issue. Why should that lessen your accomplishments?

If you don't agree with their viewpoint, then at least keep it to yourself.

Now that's just off the hook. My opinions aren't valid because they're not yours? I'm discussing this in good faith here.


RedMenace
\just because I haven't run Lunar doesnt mean I don't know what it's like to work hard for something
\\don't want a *******-contest here, there's no point
\\\I'm not 14, I actually *have* accomplished hard things as well
\\\\not 14, but Daughter is

Yes it's true that many people work hard in order to get the unique reward at the end that can impress other players.

No if someone else climbs mount everest with a helicopter then I don't feel cheated. He fails because he couldn't get up on his own.

However your mount everest example can't be compared to this situation. Does climbing mount everest help you in any way? No, it is solely done to prove to yourself that you can push your limits. Most people don't want a lunar weapon just to know that they have the ability to farm mats, they actually want to use the weapon because it's good. In the climbing case it's the process that's important, while with lunar weapons it's the end result that people care about. The person who farmed mats for hundreds of hours and the person who used a bit of cash to get the lunar weapon have the SAME END RESULT. They both use their weapons to own enemies and other players; in that case it doesn't matter how you got the weapon as long as you can use it. In PW the point of getting lunar weapons is to be able to make your own character stronger, it has an actual benefit for the player unlike whereas in your climbing example the only benefit is to be able to say to other people that you were able to climb mount everest.
Once again how would you feel if everything you worked hard for and earned in game could be magically obtained by another user in a matter of seconds with just a bit of cash?

Yes you can say that people shouldn't care about what others do, as long as they enjoyed their own experience it's worth it. But honestly farming mats for weeks on end gets tedious and tiresome. It's like working hard in high school, getting straight A's, getting into a good college, studying a ton, graduate with good grades, find a job, slowly but surely work your way up, always arriving early, leaving late, working your butt off, and you finally get that promotion. Then you find out that some other guy has just been promoted to your boss, except he slacked off through high school, college, is super lazy at work, but his parents know your boss so that connection got him through.

Yes you can say well that's just life, but it certainly does deter people from actually legitimately working for their goals. Imagine if your daughter when applying to college, was a perfect fit for her dream college, an amazing candidate, had always worked hard, but got rejected in favor of one of her classmates who had parents that paid their way in. You're telling me that you'd perfectly accept the fact that person B was accepted over your daughter who has dreamed of going to _____ college for her whole life and actually worked for it just because he paid his way through? What sort of lesson does that teach her? That she shouldn't work for anything because some other person with a ton of money will just come and make her efforts worthless?

No matter what, the fact is that this is a MMO. There's no point to actually playing the game if almost everything can be obtained through cash shop. It's not a matter of who's a loser and who's a winner, the issue is how there should be a balance between actual game playing and usage of cash. I said that you should keep your opinion to yourself because you're calling people who are complaining whiners. Let them vent a bit, they deserve to release some stress, try not to aggravate and worsen the situation by telling them that they're conceited and snooty.

got rid of the pic. think it's better this way.

I'm bored, so I will post a quote.
Satisfaction lies in the effort, not in the attainment, full effort is full victory.
-Gandhi

But I doubt people want the effort, and when the effort = grinding mindlessly, well, there is no satisfaction.

PVP = satisfaction

satisfaction = effort

effort = grinding

grinding = boring

satisfaction = boring undefined

black = cat
black = television
cat = television

I think the money should be spent in the effort, but not the attainment. Thus a way to expedite the game. Besides, one can go work for an hour and progress more, than actually playing the game, and playing the game should be satisfying.

As someone said, posting seems to be more fun than playing.

DarkSniper - Lost City wrote: »

This thread was almost dead and here you go messing it up.

Are you talking about me?
Well, see, by playing the game, I was directed to this forum 10 minutes ago. I am a hedonist, and I want pleasure. So if posting makes me happy, that's what I'll do.
To be on track, patches change nearly weekly, so what is nerf now could be OP later. If people just stuck to what they have fun with, might be easier to handle the nerfstick.

The reason it isn't dead is cause you posted.

Cryxtal - Sanctuary wrote: »

ohh yeaa.. im so loving this forum now ! ill be spending more time here ithink .

totally. I find my post counts jump from 10 posts to the current number in the matter of 2 days. The forum is certainly more attractive than the game...

Its awesome when people post how the game is ruined for non-CS'ers like themselves then in the same post call themselves "customers." You're not customers, you're users. b:chuckle

=Sigh=

Why must you be so annoying, DarkSniper?