v182 Update discussion thread.

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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I cant believe there saying they/we have to wait for a maintenance to change such a small thing like shutting that duke guy up? do our devs even have access to anything?, un "legit" games get stuff fixed quicker than this. ^^


    b:sad

    even if it's just a matter of commenting a few code lines, PWI staff are unable to do that. they must request it to PWE instead.
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    even if it's just a matter of commenting a few code lines, PWI staff are unable to do that. they must request it to PWE instead.

    that's about right, even a text change requires files to be patched, we wish it was a switch, but it's not that easy b:victory
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ._. i guess it was a bad idea you ignored it
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    ._. i guess it was a bad idea you ignored it

    That would mean we brought even more coin into the economy, so it would kind of defeat the purpose.
  • narc0tix
    narc0tix Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    that's about right, even a text change requires files to be patched, we wish it was a switch, but it's not that easy b:victory

    Translation: the packs will stay the whole month. Deal with it and stay or emo-quit like the other half of the playerbase.
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  • Falls - Sanctuary
    Falls - Sanctuary Posts: 544 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    That would mean we brought even more coin into the economy, so it would kind of defeat the purpose.

    .________.


    b:faintb:faintb:faint
  • Breadbun - Lost City
    Breadbun - Lost City Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Your whining is ridiculous. Just wait...omg how hard is it. If you do not want to wait and see, then leave.

    Did you whine when Santa Clause did not bring you your toy fire engine? b:surrender


    As for "what may happen"......I think that it would be a huge mistake to remove these Packs. The second round of QQ/Whine would ensue. People will deal with it. For heaven's sake it has only been like 2 days. b:surrender

    (My suggestion however....Make the Chest of Coins and Perfect Hammers more worth while in this game. Some of us are sitting on 30+ -.-)

    I already quit thank you veryyyyyyyy much b:victory

    However, your whining about people whining is ridiculas too. Especially business models etc. People have a right to be pissed, more so others than me.

    They wouldn't remove the packs, I'm well aware of that. Considering any remedial action/permanent action would have happened by now and it would be unfair to those who have invested into those packs for the sole reason of Lunar items/rank items etc...I'm just trying to inform others. This thread just needs to D.I.E. I fail to see why people keep posting in the hopes that something may happen. (In regards to the box, not duke).

    The box is a joke, PWE is a joke, the whole games a joke b:bye
  • SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear
    SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,225 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I already quit thank you veryyyyyyyy much b:victory

    However, your whining about people whining is ridiculas too. Especially business models etc. People have a right to be pissed, more so others than me.

    They wouldn't remove the packs, I'm well aware of that. Considering any remedial action/permanent action would have happened by now and it would be unfair to those who have invested into those packs for the sole reason of Lunar items/rank items etc...I'm just trying to inform others. This thread just needs to D.I.E. I fail to see why people keep posting in the hopes that something may happen. (In regards to the box, not duke).

    The box is a joke, PWE is a joke, the whole games a joke b:bye

    Unless there is some kind of retribution, I'm inclined to agree to the latter statement.

    In spoon's defense, he just works for "corporate greed" doesn't run it. Or as my dad would say..

    "He just rides the train, He's not the conductor."

    But he is well aware that he is going to catch a lot of flack since he is the closest to the "decision makers" we can get.

    I also have paparazzi photo's of him eating with a fork.
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  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I also have paparazzi photo's of him eating with a fork.
    Lies and slander!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • animalcrackerz
    animalcrackerz Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Well as you can see I dont post much...but here it goes.
    I have moved to PW from another game and love this game, I play as often as I can. But to be honest I feel betrayed..PW should realize that players are vested in this game as much as they are! Players have put in hours and hours of game play not to mention real life money! The economy has gone into a tail spin and experienced players are jumping ship! To be honest with you PW young players aspire to be like the more experienced High lvls. Thats what motivates them to spend thier hard earned cash. A game without an established community is a ghost town! That said, how do we fix it? Well I suggest that PW broadcast thier upcoming changes say in the announcments section. That way players who have spent gold and ingame coin to collect mats and items dont find themselves next to penniless the day after an update b:angry This will help keep the economy remain more stable as to the fact that the community will be prepared and exploiters (you know who you are..) wont be able to drive the economy into the ground. Seriously we all all use CS wether it be casually or as a sorce of creating ingame income. CS is how PW stays afloat...but it is the players are who putting the money in PW's wallet. How about some consideration in the future PW?..So PLEASE take the time post upcoming changes in the game that will affect our community!!


    PS We all do love knowing whats coming next it keeps us around

    b:victory Thats all for now b:bye
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    .________.


    b:faintb:faintb:faint

    O. o???
    I also have paparazzi photo's of him eating with a fork.

    i can see this ._. took him forever just to give me a spoon.*pictures a spoon (Spoon) sitting back in a chair holding a plateof food while eating with a fork* O. o
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  • SnowFalling - Dreamweaver
    SnowFalling - Dreamweaver Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    People, please. He eats with his fingers. He just wants us to think he's all high falutin' and fancy with all that spoon talk. (Though, his name would be cooler if it was eatswithsporks)

    OT: I got ongame last night with my alt, and for a long blissful while, there was hardly any duke shouting. I almost came on to announce that here, that it had slowed down, when it picked right back up.
  • Roojie - Lost City
    Roojie - Lost City Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    It was mentioned way back that the CS updates were to help players who have more than they know how to spend in game coin, spend their coin. On what was not specified... gold in AH?
    They said it was to prevent inflation. But if they want to do that, why not just make better mounts than the horses avalible at the Pet Manager? Or put some of the cash shop items in the game for coin as well? Like dragon orbs? I dunno, stuff like that. There are better ways to suck game coin out of players and bring inflation down. Events for game coin only would help and fewer people would whine because those who worked at the game would be getting rewarded for their efforts, not just people with some extra cash and/or a weak constitution for gambling. I seem to have an issue with seeing something I want and finding the money for it, but I don't have much in-game coin because the game itself isn't any fun to play right now.
    That's the second problem for me: THERE IS NOTHING TO DO. Pleeeeeease stop updating the cash shop for a few weeks and update the game with less grind quests, more fun quests that don't involve super bosses, content for in-game coin, more map to explore for lower level players. A lot of the quests I have now are grinding or a boss that I mention the mere name of and the guild goes silent because everyone hates bosses.
    ugh. T_T
  • malator
    malator Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I love your argument, that's Mustafa Mond on Brave New World... I personally don't agree, the marxist concept of class is one, imo, that continues to strongly divide humanity. On to the game; One of the cool things bout MMORPGs is that advancement in a persistent world does allow you rewards based on time, skill, etc. Who's at the top is open to debate as there are many ways you might measure this; PvP, wealth, level... It's a layered system but it also allows for advancement; today's noob may become tomorrow's 1337 player and the pro that didn't keep up with gearing/skilling may find himself unable to catch up with the new elite. The problem for some of us is that a factor outside of game mechanics has become overwhelming in it's influence on the competitive environment. Advantage gained through the cash shop should be one of convenience not necesity. When most of the games objectives can be atained by simply using money it no longer is a competition that deals in skill, knowledge or experience but the so called wallet race.

    That's the real issue on the table. If i wanted that kind of game i'd be playing high stakes poker, at least there i know everyone sits at the table with the same amount of money as me... and is not an issue of money (i do spend way more on booze than i would ever spend on any game) but the priciple of fair competition. Cash shopers should have an edge, i'll grant you even a strong one, but they should not be able to simply get everything handed to them in a silver platter. I live a 5 hr drive away from the beach and can easily stay in a GT Hotel if i want that.
    quoted for truth




    and srsly about the noobs killing the pros, its unfair because then skills dont mean anything, in a f2p game the free players should still have a decent chance to beat the paying players if they try harder/are skillful etc but with the influx of 1337 equipz that just margin just got unacceptably smaller
  • malator
    malator Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    @GMs/Mods sry for the outburst(s) earlier you guys are just doing your jobs but srsly PWE management is fcked up to the extreme

    a **** dumb deaf and blind monkey with a elephant shoved up its **** could do a better job
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    b:beatup you couldn't just edit your post -.-"
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  • malator
    malator Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    b:beatup you couldn't just edit your post -.-"

    you have to understand im doing this from my smartphone because of *COUGH* eye pee *COUGH*
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Theres rly no point in flamming..
    he's sitting behind he's desk i don't see his point in caring about the little name calling. may be he has to just keep it clean for the younger veiwers, not that he rly even has to care about that either besides its just making the thread larger and more difficult to read(not saying this post isn't adding to that).
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  • GriffinJ - Harshlands
    GriffinJ - Harshlands Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    It was mentioned way back that the CS updates were to help players who have more than they know how to spend in game coin, spend their coin. On what was not specified... gold in AH?
    *lays the duke out in front of Roojie and takes a sledge out and proceeds to beat the **** outta the duke and leaves it with a warped voice and repeating certain things 5-9times*
    duke.jpg

    yes help players. sure. the players can help the economy as well (sarcastic)

    Economy.jpg


    You said you wanted proof, there you go spoons, hope that helps some on both the update and the economy of PWI. (and Roojie i was just makin my point sorry)
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    thats some pretty evil and greedy players on Harshlands :s.. going to play somthing else till this all dies down... will bve checking in and i hope you have some info Spoons soon other then shutting duke up.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    It's like that on every server, people on harshlands just speak their mind.
  • GriffinJ - Harshlands
    GriffinJ - Harshlands Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    thats some pretty evil and greedy players on Harshlands :s

    We are PVP server, am I right? Player Vs Player? Or am I reading it the wrong way? And yes I do agree EthikaII, there are some REAL greedy players on Harshlands, I should have been SSing a LOT more.b:mischievousb:mischievous
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    We are PVP server, am I right? Player Vs Player? Or am I reading it the wrong way? And yes I do agree EthikaII, there are some REAL greedy players on Harshlands, I should have been SSing a LOT more.b:mischievousb:mischievous
    reading correctly .. maybe O_o?

    ANd..well yeah devoted the greedy and evil are on all servers. maybe it just seems alot more harsh for someone to actually point out , they want to keep gold at 500k per.just so they can become rich off the poor, then agian when the pooor are no more, they will just be getting rich off, the rich.
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  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    being evil is part of the "PvP experience". countless people do it also in RL...
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  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    being evil is part of the "PvP experience". countless people do it also in RL...
    1st off i wasn't really commenting about the pvp base of that server if you look back a page you see the SS of what some players have commented about. that was the evil part.
    pvp wasn't even on topic of this thread?
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  • GriffinJ - Harshlands
    GriffinJ - Harshlands Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    being evil is part of the "PvP experience". countless people do it also in RL...

    Yes I agree being evil is part of the experience, but I personally am not one of those people. I will go around randomly healing someone or helping someone out if they need. Heck one of the things I think is the funniest is if I see someone 'dueling' it out with someone else I will just randomly choose a person and start healing and protecting.b:laughb:chuckleb:victory And yes countless people do it in RL, that is what corruption is in the world today. Cant turn on the news and NOT see it, but that is also why the economy for today is what it is.
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    A lot of people had quit the game because is too hard to get gear and level at the same time.

    Some of my friends (most of them gone already) used to tell me that pwi thinks that we have no lives.

    myself, I cant aford my tt90 armor, I never could aford tt60,tt70 or tt80.


    I was lucky a friend who quit gave me legendary amor.


    So, the current complaints are the opposite reason of why friends left the game. So, I still fail understanding.
  • GriffinJ - Harshlands
    GriffinJ - Harshlands Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    A lot of people had quit the game because is too hard to get gear and level at the same time.
    Farming is going to kill monsters right? When you kill a monster you get experience points. Experience points = levels When you kill the monster over and over to get a certain item you just get better at it because you can adjust your game plan on what is effective and what is not.
    So, the current complaints are the opposite reason of why friends left the game. So, I still fail understanding.
    Your friends probably quit because they were looking for a way out... Or they realized what a lot of the younger kids fail to realize.... "The grass is greener on the other side." Bluntly put I think they realized the sun is out there and it helps for skin color so you are not as white as a sheet of paper you use for school.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    A lot of people had quit the game because is too hard to get gear and level at the same time.

    Some of my friends (most of them gone already) used to tell me that pwi thinks that we have no lives.

    myself, I cant aford my tt90 armor, I never could aford tt60,tt70 or tt80.


    I was lucky a friend who quit gave me legendary amor.


    So, the current complaints are the opposite reason of why friends left the game. So, I still fail understanding.

    Imo your friends may have found higher levels to be dull and repetitive, as wonderful as this game is it is by no means perfect, which i've often heard to be a common complaint, specially from people who don't pvp... or simply they might have grown tired or outgrown it, it happens. Most people eventually move to another game or simply quit playing for a while.

    It's a different issue from the recent game unbalance that aniversary packs/failed economy have created and which is the reason many of us are quitting. At least that's my view of what you posted, the complaints are different cuz they r unrelated...

    And grats on the armor, that was a good friend.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Originally Posted by TheGoliath - Heavens Tear
    ToS is sadly stopping me from telling u what do I think about the amount of dollars u used
    Yeah well i hope so cause im not about to tell you how i feel about how much money you used on worthless entertainment what ever it may be, other than PWI :P b:chuckle Doesnt feel good when someone criticizes your self-earned spendings based on their own perspective or worth huh.
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