High levelsl ruined low level event

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

High levels do this for the SOLE purpose of pissing everyone off. The more you hate them the more they like it because they know you can't do anything about it.

wrong. i do it for mirages, dog tags and money. i can't grind 100k, i can't get so many dog tags and celestones in 20 mins.

wraith event for me same as x-mass event where had to kill snowmen. There isn't YOUR mobs KSing. In Easter event you will say that only low lvl wizzies and bms can pick up eggs because they will drop at low level place near Etherblade?

I think that most of the people on this thread have good points on both sides. I understand that some higher lvls do it just for fun, and I can't blame them for wanting to kill wraiths. It's only the ones that do it specifically for the drops that I have a problem with. Me and my squad (all about appropriate lvl for wraith attack) weren't having that much trouble getting regular kills. I mean that's why we were in a squad.

The only time me and my squad really had any trouble was when the commander came out. I was right beside it when it spawned and attacked it immediately with my squad and a few others.

It was then that two high lvls (apparently also in a squad) came up and killed it in about a total of four hits. We all then just stood there thinking all **** as these two high lvls picked up about 15 different items (including two dogs and at least one celestone, hard to tell with all the text you know). Only then was I actually irritated.

My question to all the high lvls who are telling the lowbies to STFU as they laugh, what will you do if the GMs DO implement level bans? I'm old school Ultima Online and I remember the days of PK-for-all, where there was nowhere safe to enjoy the game from some a$$hat deliberately killing a newbie to "steal their socks" and then shout, "i SkuLL FuXx0rZ jEw!" The lowbies and peaceful players begged the staff to do something and the PKers laughed, saying, "UO doesn't care about you! We pay the most money! They wouldn't DARE **** off their cash cows! We are worth more than you!" Well one day, they split the game so that the peaceful PvE players had an exact copy of the game world that had nice graphics and no PKing. The "favourite of the GMs" PKers? They got a mirror, too. It had ugly/dead graphics and no safe zones except cities. And you know those big, bad, "Hah! You carebears are losers because you won't walk outside of town so I can sKuLl FuXx0R JeW!" PKers? You know what they did? THEY ALL CAME TO THE PvE SERVER! I wandered around in the PK server mirror for nearly an hour before seeing anyone. They were all scared of each other! They didn't have any low-level, innocent "sheeple" to kill. They had to deal with someone who could kill them just as easily as they could try to kill the other, and the god-cursed cowards RAN TO CAREBEARLAND! I laughed for an hour straight!

And sadly, some of you are just the type, but since you can't force a newbie/lowbie to be your PK sheeple, you hide behind the fact that you can't be PK'd either and look for ANY OTHER method you can do to **** off the new/lowbies, all under the excuse of, "I've been here longer/paid more money than you! It's not my fault you got here late/I'm richer than you! Suck it up, loser! AHAHA!"

So my question. What will you do when, just like you think they won't, they make it so you can't bust in on low level events anymore? Will you cry like babies the way the Ultima Online PKers did, "It's not fair! Nobody wants to be my victim! The only people I can fight anymore are people good enough to beat me! Where are my lowbie victims?! WAAAH!", and threaten to quit the game, thinking your money is somehow greener than mine is and they'll beg you, "Nooo! Don''t leave, rich mean guy! We'll be forced to live in a cardboard box and eat ramen if you don't play our game! Here! We made new fighting actions for you so that when you kill that lowbie, you can then choose to skullfuxx0r it satisfyingly! It then steals all their account zen, sending it to you, and bans the lowbie's IP forever!"

I know someone who their mother used to hit them with a metal pipe when they didn't do what she wanted. Because she did it to them, that makes it ok to do it to their future kids? That's what you're saying, some of you. "Someone ruined my fun for me during my lower levels so now it's MY turn to go ruin the fun of low levels now that I have the power! I can't get over the fact that I wasn't server-born as a badda$$ **** and someone was able to mess with me, so now that I AM a bada$$ ****, I'ma go show people what a bada$$ **** I am in any way I can!"

Proof that some of you are real sparkling gems of examples of why some high lvls give most high lvls a bad reputation are the people hoping that the OP somehow messes up the ToS so he can get banned. That's really proof right there of what gracious people some of you high lvls are.

No, not every high lvl is being painted with this brush, however, if this post offends you, then you ARE one of those a$$hat, selfish high lvls making a bad name for all the decent ones out there just trying to enjoy the game. Feel free to now stick your thumbs in your ears, wriggle your fingers, and stick your tongue out at me or whatever "Haha! You suk!" posts you're going to do. My money is still pretty green and the ToS is still pretty safe for me, so you pretty much can't do a d@mn thing to me. Not to mention my rather close connection to those "communist b@stards", which may well get me perks the rest of you round eyes will NEVER have. XD

Ok dude, that was just great.. all I have to say about this whole subject is your post was just GREAT.. and funny too

There have been alot of good posts for both sides...i understand that its an event for everyone...but when you see a lvl 35 working hard to kill a 40 at the event and you make a CONSCIOUS decision to steal that kill, you are rude and a disgrace to yourself/faction..you shouldnt be so hyped up about some stupid tags or dq stuff that you ruin it for everyone else...that makes you a selfish, self centered **** that doesnt deserve to be part of "group" activities, considering you dont "play" well with others...

It is a little bit unfair, they're meant to be fun.

>.<

Tearvalerin - Sanctuary wrote: »

Have you not a sense of morality, sir? Paying money, more or less than the man next to you, is irrelevant, it in no way gives you a right to claim rights to such actions. Yes there are no rules about it, but do you not consider the others feelings?

Whe I first started the game, I remember my first wraith event. I was the only one there, as I was doing Q's around Broken Bridge Village, attempting to kill these ososcary new beasts threatining my little home village. Then, someone with your mentality appeared. My golem would be tanking these beasts, and all of a sudden, out of the blue a 60+ player comes, smacks the thing dead in one hit, and says "get out of here noob."

I was appauled, how could these people just brutally take everything I attempted to kill from me? It was like.. my mother giving me a dollar for a candy... and some bully takes it from me. You sir, if you support their actions are a supporter of bullies.

In general, the only area I see low levels take from other low levels is in the cults after 19 - 29 pertaining to the mines and broken bow bluff, where there are too few monsters and too many players. Though it happened often, id rarely get in a fight with another, wed shake it off as if it was nothing, be on with our lives... but occasionally there was another player who would be like your attitude and say: I pay for cash shop items, therefore I have a right to do whatever.

This aggrivates me to no end when it comes to AOE leveling blademasters and zhen parties... I buy scrolls and charms too, what makes you any better than me, that you think you need every monster in the area and cannot share 1-2 less mobs for the wandering solo'er trying to get a little exp for him or herself. This is one time only where Zoe's mentality that humans only live for their self interest theory can be applied as correct.

I for one do not like bullies, nor do I believe someone has a right to a monster more than someone else. Those who take advantage of things such as wraith events or zhen with aggresive tactics that are abrasive and detrimental to the rest of the community around them are heavily in the wrong. Thus I close stating, Yes I am just a regular player like everyone else... but so are you.

-sigh- I should have known my wall of text was going to confuse someone...

The real money part was brought up to support my reasons as to why players should not set rules for others. Hence the regular player part as well.

I do not really care what you think I'm like in real life, but it is a little sad though that you believe you know what I'm truly like just because of what I think an open event should be like on a game. I guess that is what happens when you take the game to heart.

I never stated that I was better than everyone else because I spend real money on this game. You also fail to understand the meaning of the word bully.

As I said before, these wraith events turn into a KSing event anyway, so you might as well say you hate anyone that attends the event. I bet most of these low levels complaining, has done their fair share of KSing at a wraith event. Some are just trying to play the role of the white knight.

If I want to kill a high level mob, I will kill a high level mob. The same goes for low level mobs. I never said I supported KSing, but one thing I will tell you though, is that I will never consider the feelings of a bunch of random players at a wraith event when they themselves are KSing each other as well. Hell, when I played a high level dual blader back on HT, I couldn't aoe any of the low level mobs at the event so I had to do mostly 1v1 yet low levels were still trying to KS me. Players will only bring out the manners argument when things aren't working in their favor and then twist the meaning of manners to fit their way of thinking.

Well in all fairness high lvls got to the game before the low lvls. Believe me I've had my fair share of the same thing happend to me in one form or another. So....all I got to say is quit complaining and lvl. It's harsh but true; why should the high lvls cool it down and let low lvls win the prize? It's hard work getting to that certain lvl, once you low lvls do a 20/20/20 you'll see.

I strongly disagree with this view that rules being enforced is the only solution to a problem... Get good at it, practice! Targetting and attacking fast is as important a factor in Wraith Raids as level can be. Chances are you'll be able to hold your own at the mid level range.

-- Just stop all this BS.. It's a matter of deciding to be a DECENT gamer person or to be JERK gamer person.. in this OR any game.

When i play.. I judge the person behind the the computer, for the actions of his/her pixels. Nothing more..nothing less --

It's been over a month, why are you all still whining about this. b:angry If the GM's or DEV's fix it so all "high levels" (preferably anyone who is lv 21+ b:chuckle) are banned then they do that, if not TOO BAD.

Life isn't fair, neither is this game; deal with it or get out.

Nuff said.

really Have To Do This To Get A Point Across, Huh?

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