free res??

mentallaxative wrote: »

If the person makes the request rudely -- ask for payment.

If the request is made politely -- be nice and res for free. b:pleased


For the players that would like to be paid for their services, exactly how much do you intend to charge? And does the trading window even work when you are kissing the dirt?

no it doesn't. the idea of charging people is void - they could simply walk away. complain about it on wc? nobody will care. stop being a cheap chump.

it cost 278,050 coin to get 1-10 in revive. assuming you leveled it every time you got the chance, you earned back every cent within the next hour. get over it, this isn't killing your coin by dropping a res on someone who mistakenly died.

to reply n aysun....actually cleric is not stuck to party play....i have solod 95% of my quests, including heaven wear, and the ones i did party were to help a guildie on the same quest. Im not being insulting to you aysun, i just dont want all ppl to keep thnking that a cleric cant solo, cause iron heart gives us the ability too, and since we stat magic only, well our attacks our fabulous considering our class. We are strong powerful characters aysun, and dont let anyone tell u different

As a friendly member of society there really is nothing wrong with ressing people for free just to be nice. I will never charge someone for a res, and if they try then I will decline and say thankyou but it really isn't a problem. On the other hand I'm not going to res people who aren't polite about it in the first place, if someone barks "cleric res me" you can be sure they are going to town or waiting for the next person to come along. If someone says "Isaphet, would you mind ressing me please? I'm at 568, 374, altitude 50" then of course I'm going to be a decent human being and res them. Yes if my party member needs heals then I'm going to attend to that first, but once I have a free minute, it really isnt that big a deal to go res them and my party are of course going to understand that.

If you are walking down the street and someones car broke down and the asked "Exscuse me, would you mind giving me a hand pushing this old banger to bump start it?" How A-holeish would it be to say "I charge a dollar for that, I had to buy food to give me the energy to perform such a task, and it costs me $40 a month to attend the gym, so you must supplement that for me to help you".

One thing I'm not going to do ever is fly across the world to res someone who messed up. It costs more in time for me to do that than it would for them to buy a guardian angel, if they cared that much about their xp, they should have gone out prepared or been a lot more cautious. Frankly its ridiculous that people expect it when the option of a GA is there.

Overall politeness and respect of your fellow players should come from both sides. If you want a res, you should be polite and patient, and a cleric should repay that by being gracious and ressing you for free.

To Aysun, clerics are a formidable solo class, possibly only outmatched by venomancers if played correctly and frugally. A "full heal" cleric is a poor party based class, and a poor solo class. Which would you prefer in a party, someone who sits back and only keeps you alive, or someone who keeps you alive while killing 1/3 of the mobs too? Its not an option for anyone who wishes their cleric to even be adequate, let alone succesful. Levelling up spells such as Blessing of the purehearted and Wellspring surge before you get Plume shot and Great cyclone is wasteful and detracts from your ability to play in an efficient party.

Edit: Btw guys, I think you actually all agree with each other on the whole, you should check through the posts, you dont seem to have that different opinions

if someone is in my grinding area. im willing to rez..otherwise try someone else.

Fistriel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

But i know our Cleric problem... we never can say "no". b:chuckle

I partially blame that because the rest of PW expects us to res. I think the mind set is cleric's aren't allowed to be busy. People get ticked if they ask for a res and you tell them you can't/don't have time.

Enina - Heavens Tear wrote: »

What annoys me is that we use a literal TON of spirit and coin on a skill that does -us- nothing good. The only people who really have to care about what level revive a cleric walks around with are everyone else - because the cleric itself will never ever need their own revive for anything. It is, in essence, a useless skill.

I have my revive on level 8. If anyone so far makes even the slightly grumble about me not raising the level, I tell them to cough up the ~150k it'll cost me in coin alone. Not to mention the ~100k spirit that will be gobbled up as well...

What really annoys me is that if my squad is wiped, and another cleric can't be summoned to help (eg. a FB with a full squad)... Then -I- have to lose the full experience penalty for dying, just so I can go back and save my comrades' experience...

Maybe clerics should unite and consistently demand Guardian Angels as payment for our services?

Oh my God I love you!! b:thanks

I'm sorry, but I just got so excited by what you said. Finally someone who's not harassing me about it being a cleric's job to res, and that it's easy to get the coin to pay for it (completely not even mentioning the spirit (which is always tight for me)), when the skill does us no good. You are my new favorite person ever. ^-^

i meant pay for res if cleric isn't near you. some people shout for res.one shout is 10k.and sometimes they shout even more times. why they can't shout then that they will pay 10k and not waste money for second shout?
i don't mind to res someone who is near me or when someone res me. i don't like that people expect others to fly all over the map to res you.
and at level when your exp will matter then people will buy angels

I really like that idea about the lending of an angel if there are no other clerics in the party. But the problem is that a lot of people online aren't trust worthy enough for someone to just lend them an angel for an fb or something like that. So then it becomes a matter of trust for the people lending the doll. Usually they won't know the cleric they have with them, so they'll expect some kind of collateral payment just to be sure they get it back if it's not used.

Lowbies think that way bcs that still dont realise how hard is to lvl a cleric and how expensive its gets.
Rezzing random near players is fine by me, its just some mana. Being asked to travel all map is a different thing.
My res is lvl 10, I worked hard to get it. Now when I go to a fb being the only cleric is not funny to pay hours of work for someone mistake.
Lets say the wiz die... only 10%... ppl get too relax and mistakes happens. In a fb you dont know what ppl is with you, unless you played with them before.
Just to tell something, I once had a veno (everything is ok with venos for me) that actually in a fb39 pull boss and mobs... can you imagine that? 4 mobs and the boss with aoe hitting us around. If I die there, Im the one losing the most, not them.

GA, dolls seems a fair deal.

Rezzing ppl around the world is not. (unless you are a good friend or pay for TP)

I just don't find res's people for free a huge deal....If I am close. However, I have a harder time with the never-ending hollers of "BUFF ME"...lol...That is more annoying, just ask nicely please....b:chuckle

I've played my Cleric through 70 levels - going on 5 months. During that time, I've never asked once for payment for a rez. But in that time 2 things have always occured:

1). I've NEVER left my squad during battle to rez - even for guildies or friends. The squad is my No. 1 priority.

2). I've never paid attention to world chat - or even area chat - when someone is asking for a rez. If someone whispers me and asks nicely, then I usually have no problem rez'ing them, and I'll even max heal them and if they ask, buff them. With 6500+ MP, 800-1000 MP is nothing in the grand scheme. With my mana recovery rate, I never have to meditate to recover from a rez, full heal and single-buffs. (But this takes No. 1 above into consideration...if I'm not in a squad, then mana recovery isn't an issue. I waste more time in the air flying between quest locations than I do with meditations.)

And as to the world chat screaming/demanding: When I'm running with a squad, I'm either on vent with that squad or squad chat. In either case, I'm paying too much attention to their health meters to even worry about the other banter. As I fly from place to place, I'll normally stay on faction chat, and still avoid the world chat banter.

But one other thing that I would like to bring up - I'll never advertize that I'll rez for pay either. Somewhere, and I can't remember where now, I saw a cleric advertise that he/she would fly anywhere at anytime to rez for 30k.

With all of that said, if someone offers to pay me for the rez, I'm not going to turn it down. b:laugh

I am a cleric who often does fight/quest solo. I take my time and meditate as needed. But I do find it extremely annoying when people are rude about getting buffs or rez just because they see a cleric in the area. Myself and other clerics in my faction have simply decide, ask nice or get nothing. Of course there have been the few occassions that I've been called various names for not stopping my quest to answer the local chat of "I NEED A REZ", ecspecially if I'm near enough to see them go down. This is usually followed by a whisper of "I can see you I need a rez". As I fly off more whispers and name calling, which is only returned with "next time learn how to ask."
Then there is the "hey buff me" while I'm at the banker or merchant. Which again I ignore simply because there is no respect. This results in more name calling or being followed and subsequently continually KSed for not giving buffs.
As far as the "YOUR A CLERIC, IT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSE TO DO," I'm suppose to be able to play and enjoy myself without the onslaught on whispers telling me what I'm suppose to do. The way I see it the only people I feel obligated to buff/rez are my faction mates. If you're not in someones faction then ask nice or leave the nearby cleric alone. A little kindness and respect goes a long way.

I've built my character placing 3 points into magic at every level. The other two points usually 1 to vitality and 1 to dexterity. Every 4 or 5 levels I'd put a point into strength. There have been some times that I put 2 points into dex. to up my evasion, crits and accuracy. I've also created macros that makes it a bit easier. I've done most mobs my level solo. Some take longer and more pots than other, metal mobs being the worst. I also make sure everything I wear has elemental pluses to it.
And with KSers, no I don't buff them. I take note of their name for later refernce and leave. Upon occassion I'll call upon other faction members to join me and the remedy the problem quickly. I find that a KSer does not enjoy when the tables are turned.
Another thing that may help you, learn to kite a mob. Hit and run tactics are sometimes necessary to allow your pots to refresh or give yourself a moment to heal.

Aysun - Sanctuary wrote: »

Forp I'm sorry (no I'm really not but I'm trying to be as polite about this as possible) but please just shut up. If you have nothing constructive to say to this discussion and bash people around like this, then you're doing nothing but causing frustration.

Eliathel...your grammer was a bit hard to understand but I think I got the gist and I completely agree with you. It's not fair for a cleric to lose so much more than everyone else. Especially with how hard it is for us to level. We can't solo and pwn as easily as veno's, barbs or even bms can.

i like how you ignore whoever doesn't agree with you. quiet down, nobody cares, your level 2 res isn't worth buying anyways.