Cactus, and other interesting Pets

Interestingly enough, I've been spending a lot of time around the cacti near the Gate of Antiquity and wondering how good of pets they were. Good to know they're not bad. I might try taming one myself just to try out. They're cute and I haven't seen people dragging one around with them much.

Can a Blademaster have a pet?..sorry for asking and where can i buy one?
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senovit wrote: »

They're good as lure pets, but otherwise their stats are on the low end. Catch one from heaven fb89 if you don't want to level an eldergoth.

I was playing around on my mage yesterday at the tower of darkness and was wondering about the eldergoths, they look kinda cool but haven't heard anything about them. i might go get one and level it up on my PVE server veno and try him out. Rino looks kinda neat too.

Has anyone used an Eldergoth or Rino much that can comment on em?

I leveled an Inferior Cactopod from level 13 to 26, and by extrapolating the data out to level 90 it should have the following stats assuming it will take the same stat advancement which I'm still working on, and it's accuracy actually is the same as it's HP.

HP : 2267
Attack : 1379
Accuracy : 2267
Attack Speed : .5
P. Def : 6475
M. Def : 7066
Evasion : 906

The average change per level so far has been as follows:
HP: 25
Attack : 16.15
Accuracy : 25
P. Def : 73.31
M. Def : 80
Evasion : 10

The only numbers that seem to have a rising change is the Attack which means that my estimate at level 90 is low, but I don't have all the numbers, and the numbers are at tamed. I also tamed a Gall's Cactopod, and it's stats are in lock-step with the Inferior Cactopod's while the Superior Cactopod is in lock-step, but 2-3 points lower at each level.

Once I hit 20 I may tame a low eldergoth or rino and level/try em while I grind out 20 hay. That's what i did on my last veno with a sawfly and was glad I did once I hit 30 and got my amazing air breathing stingray.


PS. sorry to derail your cacti thread i shoulda prolly just started a new eldergoth thread but I'm lazy sometimes

I've been wondering about the cacti. I just got a Carapest Terror today (decided to go with terror instead of molten, and terror's the lowest level carapest), and I plan to get a Molten Ant some time. I'll post how those go.

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Could I request the folks posting their pet stats please include the hunger level? All the stats except attack seem to follow a simple formula, but the attack rating seems to vary for each pet type (i.e. two different pet species with the same attack growth rating do not gain the same amount of attack per level). Unfortunately the attack rating also varies with hunger level, which is driving me nuts trying to figure out how the attack rating growth works.

I think it depends on hunger level and loyalty of the pet (>500 gives the max rating).

I've been wondering if all pet stats have a linear growth rate (the average change between 2 levels remains constant) or if there have different behaviour. What do you think about this?

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

From the numbers I've gathered, it's linear. The attack rating growth however has quite a range even for pets with the same growth value for attack.

With a linear growth rate we should be able to determine the approximated value in any level if we have the average growth rate and the value at a certain level.

I'm levelling several pets atm to see if the growth rate stays always linear.

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear: "The only low point is the HP. But it could make a good pet for a heavy tanking veno, provided you disable it's skills so it will use ranged attacks. I levelled it on living snowmen and was happily surprised how good it was at dealing damage"

As a heavy veno, I had the same idea, but I was really disappointed. The cacti have a really low attackrate, and poison mist is useless, since you get it yourself if you go foxform. I found the ideal pet for a heavy veno to be a Tauroc angler I tamed at lvl 7. It has a faire attack/accuracy with a attackrate of 0.8 attack/second and bash, nice hp/phys def (only mag def is low), but most importantly it has pierce. This skill is really usefull for a heavy veno.

ShadowTails - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm levelling several pets atm to see if the growth rate stays always linear.

From what I've seen from 8 pets most of the stats (Damage, Evade, Phys. Res., Mag. Res. and HP) have a linear growth. The great exception to this rule seems to be Phys. Atk. that appears to increase more as levels go by.

Can some high levels send me the stats from their Crystalline Magmite so I can verify this behaviour? I could use any Crystalline Magmite stat that is level 40 or higher and both Loyal (loyalty > 500) and Full (hunger).

Tawarwaith - Sanctuary wrote: »

but most importantly it has pierce. This skill is really usefull for a heavy veno.

And what prevent anyone from having their cactus learn Pierce? b:chuckle

sry for posting off topic
1) has anyone know if the iron hawk near vibrant cliffs and arrows fall is tamable
2)how do i get pet scrolls for skills?
3)wat skills are good for a crackpot lynux?

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Could I request the folks posting their pet stats please include the loyalty level? All the stats except attack seem to follow a simple formula, but the attack rating seems to vary for each pet type (i.e. two different pet species with the same attack growth rating do not gain the same amount of attack per level). Unfortunately the attack rating also varies with loyalty level, which is driving me nuts trying to figure out how the attack rating growth works.

Edit: corrected loyalty/hunger - thanks ShadowTails

I just caught a turtle today for my water quests and was sitting there feeding it while looking @ its stats to kill time until maintenance lol. I've noticed that the attack rating jumps up every time I hit a higher tier of loyalty (wild->tame->loyal). And then I had this theory: Attack growth IS linear, but we are looking at the wrong number.

According to the pet npc, a pet will dish out a % of its true attack rating according to loyalty level. At Tame loyalty, the pet does 100% damage, but most people usually use pets at Loyal loyalty(max loyalty). So we are not looking at the pet's actual attack, but 120% of its actual attack. That explains why some ppl notice that attack seem to grow at a higher and higher rate as the pet lvls, since with percentages, the bigger the original number, the bigger the difference a percentage makes. My turtle's attack was 786 when Tame, and 943 when loyal. 786 x 120% = 943.2

I never did any number crunching on pets though, so this is just a theory :P

well anyways, here are my pets' stats:

Crystalline Magmite lvl 59 (caught @ lvl 17)
Loyalty: Loyal
HP: 1927 Phys atk: 1568
Phys resist: 5692 Mag resist: 3795
Damage(accuracy): 889 Evade: 658
Atk rate: 0.6/sec speed: 5.9

Frogling (Treefrog) lvl 60 (caught @ lvl 9)
Loyalty: Loyal
HP: 1833 Phys atk: 1054
Phys resist: 4698 Mag resist: 5480
Damage(accuracy): 1222 Evade: 814
Atk rate: 0.8/sec speed: 7.4

Petite Sawfly lvl 59 (caught @ lvl 8)
Loyalty: Loyal
HP: 1505 Phys atk: 1609
Phys resist: 3855 Mag resist: 3855
Damage(accuracy): 1304 Evade: 802
Atk rate: 0.6/sec speed: 8.5

Tortoise Everlasting lvl 51 (caught @ lvl 51)
Loyalty: Loyal
HP: 1556 Phys atk: 943
Phys resist: 4248 Mag resist: 3642
Damage(accuracy): 798 Evade: 585
Atk rate: 0.6/sec speed: 6.5

Echomaid lvl 56 (caught @ lvl 56)
Loyalty: Tame
HP: 1310 Phys atk: 760
Phys resist: 3335 Mag resist: 4668
Damage(accuracy): 1222 Evade: 815
Atk rate: 0.6/sec speed: 8.9

I've replaced the echomaid with the turtle. That echomaid was a very bad tank. Its speed and looks are the only things good about it. Its attack is lower since I didn't raise its loyalty, but with a main attack that water mobs resists and a low attack-growth rate, that probably didn't matter much. My main problem with it is that it is way too fragile. It dies more easily than my bee and it doesn't have much else to make up for it. I thought it was not a big deal at first, but then I realized that there are quite a lot of water quests around that level b:surrender. I'm hoping that the turtle will be better. ~30 minutes until servers are back up hehe.

Oishasan - Sanctuary wrote: »

just throwing this out there, but if you're just grabbing turtles and not actually raising one..
There were a ton of level 58ish+ turtles I saw on the coast in the NorthEast portion of the map. by TaiChi Isle.
Good to see the stats on the 51 turtle though, and great info on the loyalty factor, I'll be placing those in my stats now from here on.

cool thx! Do you remember the name of the turtle by any chance?