Choose your Destiny

karmelia wrote: »

Got to love that thread title too...

"Choose your Destiny "

Meaning like : "Here are the choice you have, take it or leave it" ???

Oh goody. I wasn't the only one who thought that...

I too will abstain from voting. I think everything has already been said up until now through multiple threads, so I won't reiterate what those before me have already made clear... but this poll is absurd as it is clearly missing the one choice that 99% of people on these forums agree with - lower zen prices. I will not spend any money until zen prices are atleast cut in half.

+1 to the idea that the option cut prices across the boards is missing.

Whoever thought releasing this to the public was a good idea, should probably be fired asap.

Cash shops are a fragile thing, especially for a game such as PWi.
However, when you try and stick in that "Give me a $150 dollar ZEN package, and give me a bonus $100 worth of ZEN " option you're really insulting the playerbase.

I think the obvious solution is--

Make the zen:money ratio more then 1:1. Then we don't have to fidgit about what items we want lowered in the cash shop. Because all of it should be lowered. Marriage is insane. Clothing is insane. Heirograms are insane. Mounts are insane. Wings are insane. Teleport stones are insane. Upgrade items are insane.

When I did my taxes last year I figured out that I spent upwards of $800 on PW-MY-EN, for the time I played it. On another server that wasn't even an official one I spent upwards of $500.

I have spent nothing, and will continue to spend nothing, when you spend so much, and get so little in return on this server. I am a cash shop *****. If I cannot use the cash shop and enjoy it, I will not play the game.

Increase the zen-$$$ ratio. Whoever has already bought -- Add the extra zen to their account.
Problems solved. Everyone can continue playing the game and enjoy themselves.

Options all suck...

1. Charm is NOT all people care about (then you might as well sell ONLY charm)
2. Same thing, Mount is NOT all people care about....
3. OMG...Same thing again...OK, here is a example:
I want to buy some cloth so I do look ok
I want to buy a car so I can drive
NO ONE want to buy a "expensive" car and wear "nothing"
NO ONE want to buy some "expensive" cloth and "walk"

4. PWE...please I think you are thinking about "GENERAL CUSTOMERS" general customers won't spend $150. What are you thinking??? You keep on superising how this is a business. Really get a "new CEO" or a "new senior partner"
Back to same example that many have used:
100 People spend 1$ or
1000 People spend 50 cents

5. WOW...more expensive charm.....


OK, from the looks of these options:
You cannot do business
You are pretty much asking same questions
You are trying to make expensive things LOOKs not expensive
You will be GOOD at advertizing

Please think some more than make another poll to make a difference

*reposted from another thread as instructed bya forum moderator, posted prior in wrong thread*

I will give you 2 reasons to change it, and change it quickly, and SURPRISE, it's not a threat that I and my gazillion friends will go play the new MMOs coming out, I'll be here awhile even if I don't pay... others may leave, but that's not my point(s).

FB]FIRSTLY[/b], sometimnes a business model just doesn't pan out. It's human nature when developing our success blueprint that we envision getting the most from our customers while providing the least. That's not an insult, that's business... maximization of profit margin. Since the items in question have no cost, every additional dollar is pure profit.

It's obvious by the stalling of the company in the face of so many people who are complaining. The company is failing to understand basic human psychology. The complainer is NOT the troublemaker. The complainer is the one who is begging you to take his/her money. I know, I'm one of them. I want to buy more Zen now, but I won't.. not at the current valuation. Every person who posts reallyw ants to give you their money even if they say they never will. I seldom walk into McDonald's just to tell them I don't want any fries today. The more times someone posts, the more revenue you are losing.

SECONDLY, you need to understand the psychology of mental ownership. Again, this is not an insult. I could be charging you big money for business advice, so take it if you see the wisdom. You have a F2P game. As long as my character is truly "free" I have very little that ties me to it except time in. That's powerful, but most of us have played other games, many games... and yet here we are at a new one.

Every dollar you take from us from which we customize and personalize our characters, we take mental ownership. As long as I am walking around in the same armor everyone else has.. well, if I'm gone, nothing unique is gone besides the person playing it. But, when I start wearing that special outfit in just the right color, or riding that special mount... well.. now I have taken not only my time but my money to carve out a place in your world that's mine. The more i put in, the more tied to it I am and the more I am likely to continue to support it.

These are reasons you should fix it now. You can continue to hold off thinking you'll find some trick to get a huge load of cash now before having to make changes. Yet, every day that goes by you are cheating yourself out of huge loads of cash. Time to let go of the original plan that you had and embrace a realistic one that will probably make you very cash-happy.

Oh, while I'm at it. IF you are going to fix this, you need to fix one more thing. Stop holding back on the Cash Shop options. We know the items are there and your logic in holding them back is flawed. We are not going to buy what's there just because those are the only choices, and then by more as you open them up one at a time.

Let me explain. I go to a cafeteria and I get to desserts and there is nothing but a bowl of jello and a piece of carrot cake. I choose the jello. As I walk away the cafeteria worker replaces the jello with a piece of chocolate cake. I don't really want jello and now I'm pissed because I was tricked into thinking there was nothing to choose from. I am unlikely to happily come back. Had all of the yummy desserts been out fro my choice I would have made my choice and then imagined what I would get next time since they all looked so yummy.

Offering choices and variety brings people back. Trying to sell a small amount and withholding choices makes people feel cheated.

Just my 2 cents.

PS I know there is more available than what you show because if you search the auction it has all of the items potentially available. So.. just turn them all on. had you done so I would have already bought the "dressy dress", but I won't settle for the few choices you left me. Your loss... my money.. take it from me... really...

Dagny

I refuse to use cash shop in this game at these prices..... I've used the CS in RFO, Rohan and L2 private servers. But never have i seen a game where it cost this much do daily things. WB and BM's that use heiro's and choose to pvp are looking at a ridiculous amount of money because they don't die easy in pvp and they don't have range for pve. And this is without doing TW. I would have checked all the boxes up there but the easiest way to fix it would be just to lower the Gold prices.

I make over 45k a year. And I still don't buy zen. While the 100$ worth of bonus zen for the 150$ package sounds appealing, I still won't vote because that's not the problem.

It's blatantly obvious what you need to do after 8 pages of this thread, just do it and keep your player base happy, and your pocketbooks fat.

mojin wrote: »

Lets not forget the 33 pages and counting in the other thread :
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=40621&page=33

It sure looks like PWEnt is trying to forget that thread and all the people who want to give them money once they get the dollar signs out of their eyes and start looking at things realistically.

ultimusmagus wrote: »

I choose to refrain from voting due to the fact that it's the zen to dollar ratio that we're unhappy with, not the item mall prices.

True, but what's the difference. Get more zen, but same IM prices. Or same zen, IM price reduced. The latter would cause less anger when it's updated.

How would you feel if you bought zen and the next day found out you can get 2x more for the same price. Probably very angry that you missed out on half.

Now how would you feel if you bought zen and the next day, the IM stuff were cheaper? Probably very happy considering you can buy more stuff

hxx wrote: »

True, but what's the difference. Get more zen, but same IM prices. Or same zen, IM price reduced. The latter would cause less anger when it's updated.

How would you feel if you bought zen and the next day found out you can get 2x more for the same price. Probably very angry that you missed out on half.

Now how would you feel if you bought zen and the next day, the IM stuff were cheaper? Probably very happy considering you can buy more stuff

While that would be great if you bought zen and didn't use any of it, however, how would you feel if you bought zen, bought a bunch of stuff and the next day, everyone was getting it for cheaper than you just paid for?

Scenario 1: Double zen per dollar.
Solution 1: Give everyone who has purchased zen the same amount of zen.

Scenario 2: Lower some cash shop items prices.
Solution 2: Figure out who has purchased what, give refunds for the difference of the items reduced, perhaps different ratios depending upon how much one thing is dropped vs something else. Don't refund for zen not spent or items not lowered.

From a "how to not make even more people upset at us than we already have due to being greedy" standpoint, doubling the zen is a much easier way to reimburse the early buyers.

russel wrote: »

Stop crying lah.
I remembered how Americans laughed at Cubinet and saying Malaysia a third world country and now the game is hosted in your own country you cry because item mall isn't based upon third world country price...

Before blaming everything and threaten to quit take a deep breathe and wonder why the prices are higher.
- PWI is hosted in the States thus the internet connection is more expensive. Salaries is more expensive. PWI stated they will offer better service meaning bigger staff, more ppl who makes more money is a big cost.
- PWI offers you PVE, PVE makes less money than PVP server.

PWI has done everything a lot of ppl wanted. All the complainers from Malay laughed so hard when PWI was announced. Everything they wanted (PVE, better and more support) was available. Ofcourse these things cost money, what did you guys expect? Same price while the cost is higher and less stuff will be bought from item mall?
Please get back to reality.

Does these things warrant a price that is 3 times the price of Cubizone? Dunno probably not. But don't make stupid remarks that you want same price as Cubizone.
Compare Cubizone to a price fighter and PWI to a more luxureous variant.

You don't understand current pricings and incomes in the USA. I can buy a new Xbox 360 game or PS3 game for the same cost as getting married in this game. Think about that. I can get a whole new game that a major game studio worked very hard on with the expectation of making a ton of money from it for the same cost as purchasing a minor aesthetic feature in this game. What does that say about their pricing? We don't care about Malaysia. The irony is that their pricing just happened to be very fair for the USA. It's a simple coincidence. PWE needs to learn about the prices of other (competing) products in the USA before feeding us this ****.

EDIT: Spending $60 on anything is expensive.

zanril wrote: »

Really, I think the prices just need to be lowered overall, and quite a bit.

and soon please