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    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      xauss wrote: »
      lol - you are mistaken

      Rofl. Have you even played the game?
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      Please do not let this thread get out of hand with the flaming, otherwise we will have no choice but to lock it. :\
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ren wrote: »
      I don't think you realize how lame that is.
      Once you've played a game where pking has no penalties like RF you''ll agree with me, and with RQ as a whole.

      PKing is about knowing your enemy loses something, and that you may lose even more than him. It gets the blood flowing, you boring carebear.

      The problem is just, your opponent WONT lost something, the reality of PK on PW is you're either going to win a moral victory or lose ur own gear/items/nothing. Dolls completely destroy any sense of win/lose in Pk'ing.

      Sure there are ppl that dont resort to using dolls and pk others based on a challenge or something similar to that, those are also the type of person that wont do it just to get items and may even return dropped things. Unfortunately taking in to account that stuff like HH gear on a 1x rate server is pretty damn hard to get it just takes one lame doll spammer to make me lose my temper and leave the game.
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    • Posts: 1,635 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Rofl. Have you even played the game?

      He's right. There are 1% chances to drop things when killed. 1% to drop an inventory after being PKed, and 1% to drop an equipment after being mob-killed. I've experienced both.
      As a Guild,

      Live as One, fight as One, win as One.
      Strength in Unity,
      Order through Chaos,
      Victory united.
    • Posts: 223 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Rofl. Have you even played the game?

      no - i'm making stuff up, and deciding my answers depending on the outcome of a coin toss.

      what i want to know is how come you think white players cannot drop?
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    • Posts: 145 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ark wrote: »
      He's right. There are 1% chances to drop things when killed. 1% to drop an inventory after being PKed, and 1% to drop an equipment after being mob-killed. I've experienced both.

      1% chance is too big, isn't it? ~~
    • Posts: 1,635 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      specter wrote: »
      1% chance is too big, isn't it? ~~

      If you mean that sarcastically, yes.
      As a Guild,

      Live as One, fight as One, win as One.
      Strength in Unity,
      Order through Chaos,
      Victory united.
    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ark wrote: »
      He's right. There are 1% chances to drop things when killed. 1% to drop an inventory after being PKed, and 1% to drop an equipment after being mob-killed. I've experienced both.

      Lol? You've experienced dropping things as a white name? I've been playing for a year and a half and NEVER has a white named drop something or I have dropped something from being white.
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    • Posts: 223 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Lol? You've experienced dropping things as a white name? I've been playing for a year and a half and NEVER has a white named drop something or I have dropped something from being white.

      ive never heard of dropping items from being killed by mobs as ark has suggested

      i have been recipeint of both ends of a white player dropping stuff
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      the white drop is really scarce and its normally inv items, I've only dropped a mining shovel from a mob kill in 60 lvls worth of playing. Its not a big issue, the red/dark red drop rates are amazingly nice tho and would really be a incentive for players to challenge pk'ers.... in a perfect world without dolls -pun intended =P
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      Higurashi no Naku Koro ni - Go watch it alone ;)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Lol? You've experienced dropping things as a white name?

      Happened to me twice.
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      poolia wrote: »
      lmfao.. oh god, how I miss you T0yo lol.. that is so going in my sig once they are up :D


      o: Thanks ^_^ I suppose you know me from Pw-MY? What was your name there o:?

      sorry for the late quotes karmelia
      You personnally asked evryone who will ever come to play this version of the game?

      No I just made an estimate based on the forums response.
      yes I did. I was even in the same NON-PK guild as you for a time :D

      Why does everyone from Pw-My have to change their names D;? Though by the way you post I can already guess who you are. Most definitely from Sanctuary and were once a co leader oui?
      They will block countries who already have their own version of the game :

      Malaysia, China, Taiwan, Philippines, Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, Japan, Brazil, Russia.

      11 countries out of a couple hundreds... I barely conmsider 11 countries a lot...

      At the end of the day an IP block is still an IP block. It may be the western international version (even though it doesn't make much sense)
      What is more egoistic :

      1 - wanting players to be able to choose the way they want to play? (me)

      or

      2 - forcing players to play a style of play they don't want to play? (you)

      *dies* Ah you got me, you got me good xD
      Ok i did overlook it from that point of view but I merely didn't explain it well. I referred to you being egoistic because having 2 servers like that might cause an imbalance in population ultimately ending one of the 2 servers.

      Although on further looking in this thread the only reason a majority want there to pvp only server is to gank casual players. Personally it was nothing of the sort. I just have carebear dreams of people all socializing on one server. D< Although like you stated referring to EVE its very hard to do and cost lots of monies. Though I'd personally prefer a channel system rather then splitting the server in 2. Flyff seemed to adopt that well >_<

      P.S. You do drop items with white name. Happened to me a lot T_T
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    • Posts: 1,635 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Lol? You've experienced dropping things as a white name? I've been playing for a year and a half and NEVER has a white named drop something or I have dropped something from being white.

      Yeah. It's pretty rare. It happened to me once when I was level 40, got killed by Myth KOS enforcer Jayvie... Second time around level 70 on Sespy Bladewofts. The chances aren't high enough if you ask me... I mean, I don't enjoy dropping items, but it'd be nice to get items from other people. That'd put more point into killing white names.
      As a Guild,

      Live as One, fight as One, win as One.
      Strength in Unity,
      Order through Chaos,
      Victory united.
    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ark wrote: »
      Yeah. It's pretty rare. It happened to me once when I was level 40, got killed by Myth KOS enforcer Jayvie... Second time around level 70 on Sespy Bladewofts. The chances aren't high enough if you ask me... I mean, I don't enjoy dropping items, but it'd be nice to get items from other people. That'd put more point into killing white names.

      I'm chatting with all my PW vet friends on vent right now and we've never experienced anyone white named dropping items. That is so weird you have experienced both :eek:
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    • Posts: 106 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      Maybe I'm blind, but where does it say that there will definitely be two servers? It's obvious that since two admins said it, it's true, but is there an announcement for something?

      And... how will it work? There will still be TW and duels and the arena, right?

      I want to get my facts straight. :)

      PS. I've read just about all of the posts in this thread... but got really bored with the redundancy.
      "The human body is a canvas for the expression of cultural ideas of men and women throughout time and around the world."
      -Liz Sands

      :D Buying photoshop at discount price from my school soon. So I can make a sweet signature soon!
    • Posts: 1,635 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      I'm chatting with all my PW vet friends on vent right now and we've never experienced anyone white named dropping items. That is so weird you have experienced both :eek:

      Yeah. The first time, I dropped a vambrace I had in my inventory. The second time, I lost my +1% crit arrow that I had equipped, lol. I lost my most worthless items - fortunate!
      As a Guild,

      Live as One, fight as One, win as One.
      Strength in Unity,
      Order through Chaos,
      Victory united.
    • Posts: 465 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      sarahbear wrote: »
      Maybe I'm blind, but where does it say that there will definitely be two servers? It's obvious that since two admins said it, it's true, but is there an announcement for something?

      And... how will it work? There will still be TW and duels and the arena, right?

      I want to get my facts straight. :)

      PS. I've read just about all of the posts in this thread... but got really bored with the redundancy.

      Agreed. These types of threads usually end up going no where. It's always fun to debate though ;)
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      t0yo wrote: »
      Why does everyone from Pw-My have to change their names D;? Though by the way you post I can already guess who you are. Most definitely from Sanctuary and were once a co leader oui?

      Sanctuary, Yes.

      Co-Leader non ^_^

      <----Snow
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      sarahbear wrote: »
      And... how will it work? There will still be TW and duels and the arena, right?

      Yes, simply :

      PvP server : PvP always on.

      PvE server : you can chose to turn PvP on or off, pending certain conditions (cooldown, red names...)
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ark wrote: »
      Yeah. The first time, I dropped a vambrace I had in my inventory. The second time, I lost my +1% crit arrow that I had equipped, lol. I lost my most worthless items - fortunate!

      For me, it was inventory items the two times. Once the mining shovel, second some worthless jewel I gor from a monster.
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 223 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      koz wrote: »
      Rofl. Have you even played the game?

      feeling a bit silly now? (you should be)
      karmelia wrote: »

      <----Snow

      hey Snowwhyte
      <---- Evelyn
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    • Posts: 223 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ark wrote: »
      Yeah. The first time, I dropped a vambrace I had in my inventory...

      ooh - i got a vambrace from PKing a white... were you in a French guild by anychance, and dropped it about 3 days - week after OB started?
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    • Posts: 63
      edited July 2008
      Hmm, thought this was the one of Pro PvP thread I had posted on before. Apparently not.

      I remember that time that xarfox is talking about, those were quite fun with the exception of when you get someone that is just constantly PKing you that you can't progress. Even see method employed to try an regulate the PKing behavior so someone could PK a person for the fun but can't grieve a player to the point that they stop playing.

      I still vote for evolving the PK to integrate more dynamics to it. I mean most methods to stop PKing all they do is try to put restrictions on PKing were the person doing the PK is penalized. However they can't make the penalty to severe or else you push people out of playing the game in the opposite method.

      Instead I'd like to see benefits and more substantial rewards in the act of thwarting a PK'er when they are trying to kill someone or if they are grieving a player by constantly killing. I mean with how often I tend to hang around and help lower levels, it sure would be funner if I could enact like a escorting pact with a lower level(or group of lower levels).

      When I succeed to protect them from PK'ers that the pact would reward me with some special currency or something for my efforts based on how well I did on thwarting the PK'er.

      Then I could buy some special, and good, gear or other items. In that manner it would better drive my intrest to trying more to protect a lower level if I have a pact to protect if they are attacked, not if they aggresively attack another player though.
    • Posts: 145 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      Some of you are unbelievable jinxed.
    • Posts: 1,635 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      xauss wrote: »
      ooh - i got a vambrace from PKing a white... were you in a French guild by anychance, and dropped it about 3 days - week after OB started?

      Nope. You weren't in Myth, I know that much.
      As a Guild,

      Live as One, fight as One, win as One.
      Strength in Unity,
      Order through Chaos,
      Victory united.
    • Posts: 107 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      I didn't read the whole topic, but I haven't seen anyone with the same opinion than me, so I'll state it.

      First my background. I have a char lvl70+ on PW-MY. I never PK'd anyone, except 2-3 people that pk'd guild members. PK is not my game (for now), and I never tried TW.

      HOWEVER, I do think that having pk and non-pk on same server add spice to it. If say, 5-10% of people are pk'ers, you gotta have to watch around a bit more, and you can have surprises. PK create action. When someone PK someone of my guild, we do try to get revenge. This changes from fighting the same mob again and again. It creates a nice dynamics. I can't really understand people complaing about pk, since a white name don't even lose exp, and very very rarely loses items.

      The problem I see with separated server, is that one will be populated 100% by pk, and the other will have none (duh!). I do enjoy that spice, even though I, myself, am not a pk'er. However, I can't have it on any of those server. If I choose the pk server, then I'll have to pk all the time, which doesn't really interest me for now. If I choose non-pk, it will lack that spice that made PW a really tasty game. And if nearing endgame I decide I do want to PK, it will be impossible :S So I'll get stuck there...

      If you do seperate servers, please add the possibility of switching chars from one server to another. Why? Because many first-time player will go in the non-pk one at first. They will get to high level, and many of them will want to try that pk thing. But it will be impossible, unless thay re-create a lvl1 char on other server, which some people will do, but many won't. Transfering char would be useful in that case.

      I don't like the idea of separate server, and I still don't know which one I'll choose if they keep it that way (I do wish that decision will be changed...).
      ~ Through the darkest of night, we shall shine brightly, revealing the path to both friendship and glory ~
      Kelovar, Radiance executor
    • Posts: 223 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      ark wrote: »
      Nope. You weren't in Myth, I know that much.


      other server
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    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      xauss wrote: »
      feeling a bit silly now? (you should be)



      hey Snowwhyte
      <---- Evelyn

      *wave to Eve* I'm quite happy to see you here :D (sorry still no PM possible...)
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
    • Posts: 395 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      This thread really grew fast. As far as I'm concerned the OP and those like him are only worried about one thing - not having enough lvl 30s to ****.

      PK-Optional servers aren't perfect either, but having one of each is as close to the perfect solution as we can hope for.

      @karmelia - I had no idea I knew you ingame on MY. It makes sense now, but damn I'm slow. :(
    • Posts: 0 Arc User
      edited July 2008
      kelo wrote: »
      If I choose non-pk, it will lack that spice that made PW a really tasty game. And if nearing endgame I decide I do want to PK, it will be impossible :

      1 - turn PvP option ON

      2- yell on WC you have white name and your position

      3 - wait for people to come see you ^_^
      Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


      (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
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