Put An End To PK-Disable Servers

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  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    massamune wrote: »
    @karmelia - I had no idea I knew you ingame on MY. It makes sense now, but damn I'm slow. :(

    Mmmm? You do? I don,t remember.. what was your ingame name?
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    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • soukyuu
    soukyuu Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    ren wrote: »
    PKing is about knowing your enemy loses something, and that you may lose even more than him.
    not - all - people - want - this.
    It gets the blood flowing, you boring carebear.
    Nice try. flamebaiting failed.
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  • xauss
    xauss Posts: 223 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    massamune wrote: »
    ...

    haha still banned from MY forums btw?

    didnt know you ingame - but from forums (though i actually gave my MY account to a freind back last March / April) i still look at forums now and then

    you once said of one of my forum replies in noob FAQ "There's no need to be a sarcastic **** about it" or something very similar - but i didnt hold it against you
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  • dristan
    dristan Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Upon hereing this news I am having a different reaction then I thought I would. Before I continue I would like to say some things about myself so people could understand my position better. First and formost I have to admit to myself right now that I am going to be a casual gamer. Not the hardcore, every night grinder I used to be. I have work, school, a spouce and have even started takeing a more active role in my baby nieces (twenty three months and three months) lives. No matter how much I may want to, come this September I wont be able to play games much anymore. I want to play this game because it looks like something a casual gamer could enjoy. Now think of this scenario. I just turn on the game so I could get some enjoyable game time with the hour I have before I have to go to sleep for work. I decide to quest on some monsters in far off land that basically takes a while to get to. I don't want to be disturbed, just quest on my monsters and be done with it. Then someone comes and nukes me to oblivion as I'm taking on my enemy. What little time I had has now been waisted just because someone, on a whim, felt I just didn't deserve to be there. Before I continue let me just say I think it's dumb for people to say that a PvE only server is taking away from the designers vision considering the original verson had a PK, PvE server system. Anyway really the simple solution to this scenario is a PK, PvE server system. There is also a dozen reasons I would want to play one a PK server. One being my compeditive nature. I've decided to play on a PK server only when I have time (vacations, weekends) and the PvE server on weekdays when I feel like it. No, there is no point in my post. Just talking.
  • poolia
    poolia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    t0yo wrote: »
    o: Thanks ^_^ I suppose you know me from Pw-MY? What was your name there o:?

    lol nope.. Morrbid from ND/Delirium/PP or whatever it is now... remember.. and I only changed my name cause someone stole mine.. have yet to see them post however. ;)
  • lipe124
    lipe124 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    massamune wrote: »
    This thread really grew fast. As far as I'm concerned the OP and those like him are only worried about one thing - not having enough lvl 30s to ****. *snip* (

    HAHA seriousley ftw!
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  • dristan
    dristan Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    lipe124 wrote: »
    HAHA seriousley ftw!

    WRONG! The OP pretty much openly admitted to looking down to anyone who ganks lower levels. Honestly it annoys me that people are trying to make this personal.
  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Wow, 16 pages and my posts went completely ignored. Ouch. I really like what Orinj said, though. Good stuff.
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  • meatshield
    meatshield Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    lipe124 wrote: »
    HAHA seriousley ftw!

    How does it feel to be so easily amused by a complete failure of a comment?

    I sometimes wish that I, myself, could be so amused for no apparent reason...ignorance truly is bliss.

    And pve simply takes the competitive aspect out of the game, yes yes there are other competitive things to do, but nothing like fighting to level up and fighting to get to the top, rather than grind grind grinding to the top.

    But you know what, it's not my choice to make your mistake for you, thats all on you to pick pve.

    You will get bored of nothing to do, and I honestly see the pve server failing in the long run.

    You have nothing to worry about mystic, any real gamer that we want to be playing with will be on the pvp server, the pve server will be a droll.
    Pray for mercy.

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  • matthew
    matthew Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Ok, to clear this up for anyone saying you dont lose anything when pked. Wait till you are higher level, have both hierograms on, and experience scroll running, in a grind spot that takes a few minutes to get to. Then suddenly this lamer rolls by and stabs you in the back and stuns you, and lets the mobs finish you off. You have now just lost experience or you have lost a doll, about 10,000+ points on your hierograms, and your scroll is running out, not to mention all those nice buffs you got to grind with are now gone, and yes you can drop stuff out of your backpack.

    Have this happen to you multiple times, then come back here and tell us you don't lose anything from being pked. Most of the players going to PVE server aren't going there because they have no idea of perfect world. They are going there because they have played to higher level on PW-MY and had to deal with this BS of random pking, and bullying over land, rare spawn points and events.

    Just because someone doesn't enjoy being a 14 year old jerk and stabbing someone in the back while grinding does not mean they have no pvp skill. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Grow a pair, little kid, and fight someone prepared for you, 1 vs 1, straight up. Thats how you earn respect. Take it to Territorial War or the arena or duel, or enable PK mode, but obviously they aren't interested in that, they are only interested in being jerks. That's why they are crying about there being a PVE server.

    And carebears? Trust me, the only "carebears" are going to be the fat pandas cuddling your girlfriends on the PVE server. Perfect world has a lot of content, if you think the only content in this game is PVP only then you need to stop playing MMOs, and go play COD4, if you are that obsessed with having to kill someone.
  • massamune
    massamune Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    dristan wrote: »
    WRONG! The OP pretty much openly admitted to looking down to anyone who ganks lower levels. Honestly it annoys me that people are trying to make this personal.

    Oh comeon, we're talking about ragequit here, you believe that tripe?

    Doesn't matter if you do, doesn't matter how much the gankers whine, it seems management here has it handled pretty well.

    Choose to play on the pk server then, but trying to take options away from everyone else isn't cool. It does not impact you (unless you are about **** lower levels.)
  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    matthew wrote: »
    Ok, to clear this up for anyone saying you dont lose anything when pked. Wait till you are higher level, have both hierograms on, and experience scroll running, in a grind spot that takes a few minutes to get to. Then suddenly this lamer rolls by and stabs you in the back and stuns you, and lets the mobs finish you off. You have now just lost experience or you have lost a doll, about 10,000+ points on your hierograms, and your scroll is running out, not to mention all those nice buffs you got to grind with are now gone, and yes you can drop stuff out of your backpack.

    Have this happen to you multiple times, then come back here and tell us you don't lose anything from being pked. Most of the players going to PVE server aren't going there because they have no idea of perfect world. They are going there because they have played to higher level on PW-MY and had to deal with this BS of random pking, and bullying over land, rare spawn points and events.

    Just because someone doesn't enjoy being a 14 year old jerk and stabbing someone in the back while grinding does not mean they have no pvp skill. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Grow a pair, little kid, and fight someone prepared for you, 1 vs 1, straight up. Thats how you earn respect. Take it to Territorial War or the arena or duel, or enable PK mode, but obviously they aren't interested in that, they are only interested in being jerks. That's why they are crying about there being a PVE server.

    And carebears? Trust me, the only "carebears" are going to be the fat pandas cuddling your girlfriends on the PVE server. Perfect world has a lot of content, if you think the only content in this game is PVP only then you need to stop playing MMOs, and go play COD4, if you are that obsessed with having to kill someone.

    +1

    I completely agree.
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  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    First of all - that was a hell of a read. I'm surprised how fast this thread grew.

    I'm also a bit annoyed at how bullheaded the mods seem to be.

    However I'm very pleased with the response this thread has gotten; the ratio supporting the removal of PK disable seems to be about 4 or 5 to 1, in favor of removing the option to disable.

    I had a bit of trouble explaining what I meant to say, but one poster (who's name I've forgotten now - sorry!) said it very well.
    HOWEVER, I do think that having pk and non-pk on same server add spice to it. If say, 5-10% of people are pk'ers, you gotta have to watch around a bit more, and you can have surprises. PK create action. When someone PK someone of my guild, we do try to get revenge. This changes from fighting the same mob again and again. It creates a nice dynamics. I can't really understand people complaing about pk, since a white name don't even lose exp, and very very rarely loses items.

    It's a shame that the GMs aren't open to suggestion by players. In reading this whole thread in one sitting I've seen that almost every newcomer to the thread has supported the idea, and the only people against it were the same 3-4 people posting repeatedly.
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  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    I've noticed that people tend to go to the threads that they agree with. If someone made a thread saying the opposite, you might get the opposite result.
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  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    ragingwind wrote: »
    I've noticed that people tend to go to the threads that they agree with. If someone made a thread saying the opposite, you might get the opposite result.

    Actually, I'd venture to say it's exactly the opposite.

    If I saw a thread labeled

    "PVP servers are cool! Make more PVP servers!"

    I'd probably completely ignore it. But if I saw a thread called

    "PVP ruins PW! Less PVP servers!!!"

    I'd be all over that.

    People know that mods read the threads and so they will be quick to save the things that they want saved. By there being such a low turnout supporting the PK-Disable servers, there's really less of them who care. Or at least who post on the forums.
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    matthew wrote: »
    Ok, to clear this up for anyone saying you dont lose anything when pked. Wait till you are higher level, have both hierograms on, and experience scroll running, in a grind spot that takes a few minutes to get to. Then suddenly this lamer rolls by and stabs you in the back and stuns you, and lets the mobs finish you off. You have now just lost experience or you have lost a doll, about 10,000+ points on your hierograms, and your scroll is running out, not to mention all those nice buffs you got to grind with are now gone, and yes you can drop stuff out of your backpack.

    Have this happen to you multiple times, then come back here and tell us you don't lose anything from being pked. Most of the players going to PVE server aren't going there because they have no idea of perfect world. They are going there because they have played to higher level on PW-MY and had to deal with this BS of random pking, and bullying over land, rare spawn points and events.

    Just because someone doesn't enjoy being a 14 year old jerk and stabbing someone in the back while grinding does not mean they have no pvp skill. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Grow a pair, little kid, and fight someone prepared for you, 1 vs 1, straight up. Thats how you earn respect. Take it to Territorial War or the arena or duel, or enable PK mode, but obviously they aren't interested in that, they are only interested in being jerks. That's why they are crying about there being a PVE server.

    And carebears? Trust me, the only "carebears" are going to be the fat pandas cuddling your girlfriends on the PVE server. Perfect world has a lot of content, if you think the only content in this game is PVP only then you need to stop playing MMOs, and go play COD4, if you are that obsessed with having to kill someone.

    Another +1 for you. It seems someone actually knows what Perfect World is. I'm glad someone else agrees with me when I said that PW has so much content that it's not pvp based.
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  • matthew
    matthew Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Mystic, this is just a forum. I think you are sorely mistaken on the interest of the PVE server. Everyone I know coming to this game is going PVE server, they just don't post here.
  • dristan
    dristan Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    massamune wrote: »
    Oh comeon, we're talking about ragequit here, you believe that tripe?

    Doesn't matter if you do, doesn't matter how much the gankers whine, it seems management here has it handled pretty well.

    Choose to play on the pk server then, but trying to take options away from everyone else isn't cool. It does not impact you (unless you are about **** lower levels.)

    Please read my first post on this topic, on the last page. Done? O-kay now man up and apologize for making a hasty assumption about me. Ohh and I wont believe you if you say a good portion of the post wasn't directed at me. I don't care what guild he was in, he has done nothing I have seen for me to assume he is the complete **** you want me to believe he is. Granted no, I don't like most of his methods or play but hey, different stokes.
  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    koz wrote: »
    Another +1 for you. It seems someone actually knows what Perfect World is. I'm glad someone else agrees with me when I said that PW has so much content that it's not pvp based.

    I like how everyone screams that there's so much content that's not PVP based, but doesn't actually point any of it out.

    Besides the weekly events, which I mentioned, mind telling what that content is? Swimming?
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  • lipe124
    lipe124 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Quick to summarize the entire thing as "weekly events" there is actually a couple of them horse races(3 races I beleive) 3 seperate events per week, if forest ruins is fixed. Crafting. TW. HH and Crecent valley runs. Not to mention 5million quests some of which give pretty good rewards. Reputation items for acquiring really good stuff.

    Now how does ONE thing(pvp) suddenly get more important than everything else in game?
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  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Swimming, flying, the mount system, territory wars, personalized clothing, extreme character customization, the crafting system, guilds, marriage system, tons of dungeons, lots of quests, heaven/hell factions and skillbooks, an immense world to explore, boss battles, uh... i'll add more as I think of them.

    Edit: Treasure hunts, not talking about the forest runs either. Not sure if they had them in the MY version.
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  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    lipe124 wrote: »
    Quick to summarize the entire thing as "weekly events" there is actually a couple of them horse races(3 races I beleive) 3 seperate events per week, if forest ruins is fixed. Crafting. TW. HH and Crecent valley runs. Not to mention 5million quests some of which give pretty good rewards. Reputation items for acquiring really good stuff.

    Now how does ONE thing(pvp) suddenly get more important than everything else in game?

    Because the entire game's endgame is based on PVP. Crafting and HH/Crescent are for equipment in order to go PVP. The eye of the forest, everything is for PVP.

    TW is this game's endgame. Everything else is a means to an end. There's no super-omgwtf-bosses that are difficult to kill that need 4 guilds of people in endgame items to kill (besides the one in TW), it's not WoW. The endgame is this game is TW and that's PVP. End of story.
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  • hong
    hong Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Here's my opinion

    Don't separate servers
    Make it so items don't drop from PvP

    What a Perfect World...
    RoC.
  • koz
    koz Posts: 465 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    mystic wrote: »
    Because the entire game's endgame is based on PVP. Crafting and HH/Crescent are for equipment in order to go PVP. The eye of the forest, everything is for PVP.

    TW is this game's endgame. Everything else is a means to an end. There's no super-omgwtf-bosses that are difficult to kill that need 4 guilds of people in endgame items to kill (besides the one in TW), it's not WoW. The endgame is this game is TW and that's PVP. End of story.

    Lol. EVERY MMO has pvp end game. Your point is invalid. PW is probably the last of the MMOs to feature pvp as endgame. TW is NOT the endgame content. TWs can be taken over as soon as lots of people hit 60. The eye of the forest is a physical defense waist adorn. How does that signal pvp? lol! Endgame content is tons of dungeons. The 109 dungeons and crescent valley/hh are all PVE based.

    I think PWE should add a disclaimer: Does not cater to the pvp addicts of RQ.
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  • lipe124
    lipe124 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    The highest person ive seen in PW when i played was lvl96 and it took several months. Why are you complaining about something thats "end game" now when its not going to happen until mid 2009.

    In fact these threads exist for the sole purpose of bashing players that dont want to get ganked 24/7. As you've seen in the screenshot of the chinese server its not a "omg pk'ers *disable pvp*" you're locked in it for 10hours. There will be plenty chance to PVP on both servers when everyone is high lvl'ed and bored. But from lvl1-89 I and others have zero intrest in PVP. Bashing pk optional servers means just one thing, you want to kill ppl against their wishes.

    *edit* just to say it even more clearly so maybe it sinks in, the pve server isnt PK-DISBALED!! its PK-OPTIONAL. You can still PK as much as u like, but your opponents will be ppl thats actually prepared for it.
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Except PvP in a TW would be enabled for sure in a PvE server. The only argument one can make about a PvP game is the lack of ability to pk outside of safe zones in a non TW/arena setting.
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  • karmelia
    karmelia Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

    As if the 10% players reading a forum are representative of the whole community.

    Simply put L there will be both type of servers.

    The PvE players are happy with it.

    For some reason the PvPers are not.

    The only reason that comes to mind is that they will loose all those easy targets they had on the MY-EN servers.

    Trying to enforce something on people is never a good idea.

    No one is forcing you to play on the Pve server. No one is forcing anyone tro play on the Pvp server either. What is wrong with that?
    Frankieraye said : "we can promise that we will work to improve all facets of community, engineering, and customer service to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again."


    (We are still waiting to see any improvements or changes beign implemented. More empty promises from PWI?)
  • mystic
    mystic Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    koz wrote: »
    Endgame content is tons of dungeons. The 109 dungeons and crescent valley/hh are all PVE based.

    Thank you for proving my point.


    The only endgame PvE content there is is instanced and can't be interrupted by PKers.

    Turn off the PK-disable, it's worthless.
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  • ragingwind
    ragingwind Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    Hey, I know why this thread has reached almost 20 pages! People are stubborn. ROFLMAO! >__>

    Seriously, though, maybe you should just choose to disagree and accept that the company will do the servers however they want. This debate will never end.
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  • lipe124
    lipe124 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    its pk-optional not disable. But that doesnt matter, you dont care about the rest of the community, all you want is free roam to pk anyone and everyone. Doesn't matter if they want it or not.
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