Elysium is coming... Discuss...

I am glad its just the CN R9 and not something new. So I dont have to bother with all that upgrade + sharding and refining nonsense again.

so far we havent realy been shown if we are just getting the Cn version or a new version for us however i have to agree no way to keep refines or shards is somthing not many people are going to like especialy the Cs players who spent so much end gaming there chars or the very few who managed to actualy farm full end game gear and now are told go farm it all again or buy it all again....
I for one would like some official information on the so called Stats of these new boundless gears and weapons aswell as possible stats on the new G17 upgrade weapon only i belive ? And some information on if there will be a way not Cs to keep our shards and refines ?

grace83shin wrote: »

Only a person who doesnt have r9r3 yet or very low refines would probably be okay with it. I feel so bad for the +10 +11 and +12 powerhouses. Feels you guys got cheated

kinda also depends on that stats it gives as I have rubbish roll and never seam to get a good one.​​

so i just got r9 for my duskblade and made it +10 and sharded and now pwi got hey you want boundless gear ok but you going to lose refines and shards plz pay us again for the pleasure.
Do pwi really expect people that are full +12 with dods and dots to pay again i say greedy pwi is getting worse .
I mean i dont mind working my **** off to upgrade gear but to lose refines and shards is seriously taking the players for a ride.

Yes they expect you to.

Its the same like it was with TT gear.
Same with Nirvana gear and r9.
Then came r9r and they expected us to rerefine it too and people did.
Then r9rr and g16 stuff came around, same stuff and people did.
Now new gear comes out and they expect it once again.

Its a mmorpg and assuming that gear stands still is stupid.​​

rikkert1234 said:

to be fair +11 is free these days, so im not too worried about the refines.

And I know u cant make a new r9 belt, but the same used to be the case with r8 weapons, all u had to do was send a ticket u wanted a 2nd r8 weapon and they would help you out at least until they released the UCH option

Frankly +11 is only actually free to people who wouldn't be worried about refines regardless.

The opportunity cost of getting large numbers of 11* orbs via spend promos is really high for most players.

Either they lose 1-2m per gold because they spend on worse sales or they lose out on portal cards.

Both options kinda suck.

Charge point 11* orbs are actually more reasonable but it's fairly obvious to everyone those aren't really free.


Regardless stones/engraves are kinda more the point for many players anyway.

you can wait and check by your self

I dont understand why you have to expectation that they will lay it all out for you lol... Some of this stuff ur just gonna have to figure out yourself, some games they just say ''We've added a few crafting recipes'' and then its up to the community themselves to figure out what they are, before even finding out what it makes.

So dont be so lazy, wait for the expansion, log on, and figure it out yourself, you are playing a game, not preparing for an exam, and its their job to give you a game to play, not hold your hand and explain everything to you

dblazen1 wrote: »

rikkert1234 wrote: »

I dont understand why you have to expectation that they will lay it all out for you lol... Some of this stuff ur just gonna have to figure out yourself, some games they just say ''We've added a few crafting recipes'' and then its up to the community themselves to figure out what they are, before even finding out what it makes.

So dont be so lazy, wait for the expansion, log on, and figure it out yourself, you are playing a game, not preparing for an exam, and its their job to give you a game to play, not hold your hand and explain everything to you

You really don't understand that they are charging $100 (or however much 127 gold is) for a pack that only has 1/10th of the needed amount of materials for the upgrade, do you?

I don't know but if I buy something, i'd like to know what i'm buying instead of guesses and hunches, and that's where PWE is being ****.

Or if I were to offer you an item and said it's so super cool and totally worth it and you can't miss it in your life. I'm going to sell it piece by piece to you, and charge you 100€ for every part. Are you going to buy it from me 10 times without knowing what you're actually getting?

Very bad selling point and PoS point.

Ive seen worse mind so...​​

Even the weapon is a questionable pick to be honest.
Lets say you have like a farming sin and yes the r9rr weapon from china is waaay better for farming then ours but considering the cost to get r9rr (ours) and upgrade it to r9rr (china) is again a huge costly thing to do and nowadays not worth the investment.
Go demon r9rr and you will be fine, even sage farm pretty damn well even though they are slower.

with the new instance coming there is no point in going aps anymore ​​

Hm... End-game instance... When will be announced next end-game instance?

Hoping we will have better way to save refinement and stones with r9 recast... Because not every op gonna cash 1000+ golf for just one part of equipment...

actualy he right it will cost me 400 usa dollars to keep my lv 10 refine? pwi your nuts and to get an extra socket on past 10 lv gear is almost as outrageously priced wtf? this has to be a sick joke right?

razzzza wrote: »

Even the weapon is a questionable pick to be honest.
Lets say you have like a farming sin and yes the r9rr weapon from china is waaay better for farming then ours but considering the cost to get r9rr (ours) and upgrade it to r9rr (china) is again a huge costly thing to do and nowadays not worth the investment.
Go demon r9rr and you will be fine, even sage farm pretty damn well even though they are slower.

with the new instance coming there is no point in going aps anymore

APS died about 2-3 years ago your really late to the party.​​

silkycharm said:

when can we finally get a new race and set of classes? its been how many years since earthguard was released? we need new classes!

Not sure if you are just trolling.. but maybe you kinda missed the Nightshades release?

Humans (wizz + bms)
Untamed (venos + barbs)
Elves (clerics + archers)
Tideborns (sins + psys)
Earthguards (seekers + mystics)
Nightshades (duskblades + stormbringers)

We got 12 classes and you still want more?? Most DBs/SBs are even not 100 yet and will be cheap alts/ joj toons forever. For most it's too much effort to create more than one decent endgame toon nowadays.

it has been a couple years, I wasn't too impressed with earthguards so i just left again.