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Asterelle - Sanctuary

attackerv wrote: »

any1 can verify the news about 20+ lvl can go out of new comer map?

http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/thread-2491640-1-1.html

not sure if 20+ lvl can leave new comer map or 20+ lvl can come in arch city

i will ask them in pwcn forum and will report if any news

One of my low level alts that was already in arch had a popup appear and once I clicked that popup it was teleported to the starter zone. If I didnt click that popup I don't think I would have been teleported.

DeffyNature - Archosaur

Narkotik reported on one one of his vids on youtube that the new classes have all of their skill, including Morai and celestial skills.
That's some fast work on their part, it used to take quite some time before they added them for new classes, can't wait till we find out more.

attackerv

this thread has lots of info

http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/thread-2491526-1-1.html

the new "sin" class seems very OP...have barb invoke and BM HF, and ...passive skill range dmg reduce( depend on range, longer and reduce more) max is 42.7% at lvl 10!!!!!!!, lvl 11 maybe 50% b:shocked

opkossy

attackerv wrote: »

this thread has lots of info

http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/thread-2491526-1-1.html

the new "sin" class seems very OP...have barb invoke and BM HF, and ...passive skill range dmg reduce( depend on range, longer and reduce more) max is 42.7% at lvl 10!!!!!!!, lvl 11 maybe 50% b:shocked

....

*sigh* I have no words.

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

I just came a rainb0w.....Definitely will return f0r this.By the way Asterelle,what happened t0 y0ur p0st c0unt?

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

attackerv wrote: »

this thread has lots of info

http://bbs.w2i.wanmei.com/thread-2491526-1-1.html

the new "sin" class seems very OP...have barb invoke and BM HF, and ...passive skill range dmg reduce( depend on range, longer and reduce more) max is 42.7% at lvl 10!!!!!!!, lvl 11 maybe 50% b:shocked

Geebus, what the hell are they planning on them doing that they need all that for an LA class....My lord...

Mars - Morai

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

One of my low level alts that was already in arch had a popup appear and once I clicked that popup it was teleported to the starter zone. If I didnt click that popup I don't think I would have been teleported.

I left start map at 20lvl, and left city on main map at 29lvl, 29 culti starts at 28lvl and its same.


As for skills, they dont have demon/sage,primal and 100 culti skills, idk about morai and 79. I saw 79 skill and primal passive in list. 35lvl now. Aoe and latest skills work only when u dont move. Have water and metal passive at 29lvl.

attackerv

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

One of my low level alts that was already in arch had a popup appear and once I clicked that popup it was teleported to the starter zone. If I didnt click that popup I don't think I would have been teleported.

I got answer from pwcn forum, old char can stay in arch city.

so just new char have to lvl 20+ to leave start map

attackerv

maybe add the info to the thread about demon/sage transfer item (keep all lvl 11 and lvl 12 skill ) in BQ, the price is 298 golds in pwcn ( should be cheaper in pwi)

Saethos - Raging Tide

attackerv wrote: »

maybe add the info to the thread about demon/sage transfer item (keep all lvl 11 and lvl 12 skill ) in BQ, the price is 298 golds in pwcn ( should be cheaper in pwi)

My question is, since I'm full sage, if I convert to demon using this item I will keep my sage skills, but can I make them demon if they are already sage? Because if I can't then I have to switch to demon to reset all skills, then learn all the demon skills I want, then switch back to sage using this item, then learn all my sage skills, all while farming more bloods again for the primal versions...That's a lot of work.

Jarkhen - Archosaur

Saethos - Raging Tide wrote: »

My question is, since I'm full sage, if I convert to demon using this item I will keep my sage skills, but can I make them demon if they are already sage? Because if I can't then I have to switch to demon to reset all skills, then learn all the demon skills I want, then switch back to sage using this item, then learn all my sage skills, all while farming more bloods again for the primal versions...That's a lot of work.

They get converted to demon version when you swap (the point is you don't go back to lv10).

opkossy

Saethos - Raging Tide wrote: »

My question is, since I'm full sage, if I convert to demon using this item I will keep my sage skills, but can I make them demon if they are already sage? Because if I can't then I have to switch to demon to reset all skills, then learn all the demon skills I want, then switch back to sage using this item, then learn all my sage skills, all while farming more bloods again for the primal versions...That's a lot of work.

Entire point of the item is that your skills won't drop back to level 10 when you swap cultis.


Edit: Dammit ninjas everywhere! That's what I get for multitasking!

Saethos - Raging Tide

Jarkhen - Archosaur wrote: »

They get converted to demon version when you swap (the point is you don't go back to lv10).

OPKossy wrote: »

Entire point of the item is that your skills won't drop back to level 10 when you swap cultis.


Edit: Dammit ninjas everywhere! That's what I get for multitasking!

Oooh, thanks for the clear up

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

pple are copying my color text b:angry

mechabeastmc666

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

pple are copying my color text b:angry

i feel bad for ya but lets try and keep this thread here on topic. Wouldn't want another Duplicate of the Duplicate getting made.

i honestly don't see why people cant just wait until we get it, rather than going out of their way to try china's version. But i guess someone with a Life and responsibilities along with relationships in the real world could still be excited for the new expansion. Afterall PWI does some pretty amazing things. It's only natural people would get overly excited over the new update and want to try it early. i personally can wait however~ not knocking anyone who cant.

ResMePls - Heavens Tear

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

pple are copying my color text b:angry

Be m0re unique like me then <3.

annaspanda

Q_Q all dq 1 coin.... no luck/money to do merchanting or packs.... NW rewards are dwindling profits... no gear to do TT enough to make it profitable.. farming low lvl manu mats are dying profits. atleast dq i could slowly get some money people like me are gonna be screwed

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

mechabeastmc666 wrote: »

i feel bad for ya but lets try and keep this thread here on topic. Wouldn't want another Duplicate of the Duplicate getting made.

i honestly don't see why people cant just wait until we get it, rather than going out of their way to try china's version. But i guess someone with a Life and responsibilities along with relationships in the real world could still be excited for the new expansion. Afterall PWI does some pretty amazing things. It's only natural people would get overly excited over the new update and want to try it early. i personally can wait however~ not knocking anyone who cant.

its fine as long as the first page is updated by asterpooper b:chuckle

and isnt it ovbvious, its the die hard pwi fans that want a head start on possible item knowledge/gain, or just plain curious bored.

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btw Astypoop or anyone, did these classes already have their R999s made >> ?

Azura - Lost City

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why introduce auto-culti, earning time, and then a complete DQ nerf?

The feature is called auto-cultivation, not auto-money maker.

Glad they didn't introduce a new rebirth level. I hope that takes a least 2 years more or never. b:laugh

And the new lands. They only added one rectangular island? Wow, they are really running out of ideas.

mzanthro

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

Why introduce auto-culti, earning time, and then a complete DQ nerf?

Because: BUY ZEN AND SELL IT PEON.

Love,

PWE.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver

Asterelle, could you check if the Undine Syren, Sunken Seawitch and Snake Island Hornshell (level 41-43 water pets that spawned off the right side of the map, south east of Dawn's Cry) are now accessible?

Desdi - Sanctuary

I have a feeling they'll give us RB3 (maybe, maybe not) and another X Sky just so they can keep us occupied while they work on other stuff. The Primal World map is still incomplete after all.

After the players explore all the new stuff from this expansion, popping another RB and/or Sky would be the easiest way to pop a "content update" to keep us busy.

tek1nig

OPKossy wrote: »

Eh. It was basically a way to not give sins a useful skill that update anyways. Over there it could combat bots some via making them drop DQs. Over here it was basically useless from the start.

Incorrect.

Spoils of war was originally introduced as a skill that would allow you to steal a % of coin from the person you pk'd. Shortly after it was released it was changed to DQ sadly before it hit our version.

I wouldn't be opposed to it being turned back into its original purpose so I can get my rogue thief mode on.

Eoria - Harshlands

tek1nig wrote: »

Incorrect.

Spoils of war was originally introduced as a skill that would allow you to steal a % of coin from the person you pk'd. Shortly after it was released it was changed to DQ sadly before it hit our version.

I wouldn't be opposed to it being turned back into its original purpose so I can get my rogue thief mode on.

People would just walk around with 0 coins.

opkossy

tek1nig wrote: »

Incorrect.

Spoils of war was originally introduced as a skill that would allow you to steal a % of coin from the person you pk'd. Shortly after it was released it was changed to DQ sadly before it hit our version.

I wouldn't be opposed to it being turned back into its original purpose so I can get my rogue thief mode on.

Okay let me be more precise for you, then.

It was originally intended to both avoid giving assassins a useful skill during that update while simultaneously acting as an anti-bot measure by allowing a class to be able to actively steal from bots. As the removal of coin from bots did not phase the botters in the slightest, it was then changed to cause them to drop DQs instead... which also did not phase the botters in the slightest much like all the other prior anti-bot measures placed in the game.

Chibiusa - Dreamweaver

Any information if they are gonig to change somethings about the venomancer class? Or pets?
Because ther is many things that seem to be glitched/bugged/messed up about it.
Since the pet evolving upgrade the class I mainly play is on many limiting ways broken:

1) Pet keep stucking in TW/and normally in the ground:
not beeing abel to follow down when you move from the flanks onto the ways at A/B/C lanes etc.

2) Once the Venomancer is stunned/slept pet shows no reaction
to using skills or doing any action
(contra stun the enemy etc. even if the pet is immune to sleep/stun movement imparing effects)

3) Movement of pets is completley messed up, you move up/jumping up while the
pet keeps sliding only over the ground
(even the Phoenix or air pets act like they are gound bound, and beeing hard inflexible in playstyle)

4) Pet doesn't attack targets in the air, when the veno is on the ground

5) Skills of the pet are glitched and doesn't work in each NW,
you habe to resummone it in every battlefield you join

6) Defense of pet's like War of Avatar, Phoenix etc. are far to weak again,
because of attack passives from primal and avatar cards,
so they are weak as before the evolving upgrade.
They die by R93 in 1-2 hits. So the pet is not even any type of support anymore.

Thank you for reading.
I will probably do a real rage hard post on the forum in the future,
with selfmade videos of how broken Venomancer pets are now.
It be nice if you can keep me up to date, if ther is going to be changes about current listed points in the future ♥

P.S. thanks to Asterelle for the work

Asterelle - Sanctuary

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Asterelle, could you check if the Undine Syren, Sunken Seawitch and Snake Island Hornshell (level 41-43 water pets that spawned off the right side of the map, south east of Dawn's Cry) are now accessible?

I checked and those mobs are all still outside of the map.
I get the impression from you there's all this esoteric veno knowledge I don't know about.

SakuLv - Dreamweaver

Chibiusa - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Any information if they are gonig to change somethings about the venomancer class? Or pets?
Because ther is many things that seem to be glitched/bugged/messed up about it.
Since the pet evolving upgrade the class I mainly play is on many limiting ways broken:

1) Pet keep stucking in TW/and normally in the ground:
not beeing abel to follow down when you move from the flanks onto the ways at A/B/C lanes etc.

2) Once the Venomancer is stunned/slept pet shows no reaction
to using skills or doing any action
(contra stun the enemy etc. even if the pet is immune to sleep/stun movement imparing effects)

3) Movement of pets is completley messed up, you move up/jumping up while the
pet keeps sliding only over the ground
(even the Phoenix or air pets act like they are gound bound, and beeing hard inflexible in playstyle)

4) Pet doesn't attack targets in the air, when the veno is on the ground

5) Skills of the pet are glitched and doesn't work in each NW,
you habe to resummone it in every battlefield you join

6) Defense of pet's like War of Avatar, Phoenix etc. are far to weak again,
because of attack passives from primal and avatar cards,
so they are weak as before the evolving upgrade.
They die by R93 in 1-2 hits. So the pet is not even any type of support anymore.

+1 chibi

Desdi - Sanctuary

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Asterelle, could you check if the Undine Syren, Sunken Seawitch and Snake Island Hornshell (level 41-43 water pets that spawned off the right side of the map, south east of Dawn's Cry) are now accessible?

I haven't seen you around in a while, where have you been?
Venomancer forums are pretty lonely.

On another note yeah I agree with Chibiusa, we did get a number of bugs with the evolution and it would be nice to know if they addressed them or not... but we'd probably need someone with a Venomancer toon to check it out.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary

attackerv wrote: »

exactly. archer is nerfed continuely b:surrender

its a well needed 'nerf', but more just a counter class that kicks them off that soap box >.>

honestly id be more worried about the mage class cause when mages stop to cast is when we have our chance to stun or wack them and this new one can move while casting.

its like a wizard/cockroach that powers up into Moon Fairy/Flying cockroach and we all know how formidable flying roaches are and why...