Farming Money

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

Sel_Darkmore - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Gaykamitarie, I just saw ur gear last night R8 recast weapon +10 With Event helms and Cloud Cape Farming WS should not even be a prob for u.

100k rep more assuming u at 200k atm is not hard, Farm do what u can to make ur income and save reaching r9 1 step at a time. Its a long process but it u dont have the drive or the discipline to do it then u will never reach it.

now if u want full +12 and Jsods then Gl with that cause i wont see myself farming that kinda stuff nor attempt it with the way things are now far as market goes.

The money u spent recasting ur r8 would have been better off on TT gold mats for cape average 10 mil , buy few green mats ribbons about 1 mil each x8 18 mil total wala TT90 Gold Cape made..do 1-2 NWs make 275 Cannies wala got a g15 Cape, Farm WS badges and the Cape mold wala spend 3 mill form a Lunar and get the Eod pay the forge fee bam ur set make the Cape Sale it for 55+ mil subtract all u spent to make it rest is profits. Profits banked, remaining repeat the cycle or use a lil of the profits and buy few of the mats to save ur time farming.

Theres ways to make money just takes alot more effort now a days then before. But thats the cost not spending a dime. u stated u had spend 20 $ before hell if u can do that, that can help make ur farming easier. If i was able throw in 20$ now and then I wouldnt need to do any instance runs but WS for Badges + molds.

Lets say i didn't spend any money on recasting Or getting rank 8. So maybe that would mean i would have 200m saved up Right now right? And wearing White-npc gear. Wouldn't that Limit the "Money making possibilities" like farming WS?

@jaabg, Long, useless post, Again.

trands wrote: »

I strongly disagree. There is no reason to lie about how you got r9.3. Those with a decent job will consider it a stupid waste of time on spamming instances and make the game intentionally into a job of boring solo instance spamming. Farming ingame is highly inefficient and wasteful if you got a job. Heck, even mowing lawns will get you r9.3 faster then spamming cube/TT/whatever while being less boring and more satisfying. All those I know who bought, including myself, have an approach like "if you play tennis, you need to buy shoes, a racket, pay a contribution. I play this game and bought part/all r9". Even if you cashshop, playing will still get you coins.

Those who farm r9.3 have more time then money. Sure why not. Long term regular players are very likely to have r9.3 by now. However, those who need to brag about how easy and fast it is to get r9.3 all super shards and refines (on multiple toons) are just weirdos that are proud of having to much free time. I don't know any cashshopper who prefers to brag "I'm a lazy bum no-lifer" rather then "with my job, several r9 full +10~12 is just a minor expense".

am i wrong to think, If people play a game for fun than the idea of someone Spending 2 or 3 years of their Life (Real actual Years) On One character (If you alternate and switch character that will add to the timeframe) for One gearset is unlikely? I seriously doubt that. It's nothing wrong with Buying the gear, If i could i would. Im curious, Has anyone here Farmed their Rank9rrr gear in Less than the timespand of a year? If so than how? Whats that? You dont want to share your "bunny ear" secrets? How sad for me. lol


i go though so many Post filled with disrespect for the Real players who farm their endgame gear. But you dont care. Its sad. Not the imaginary players who Do Quest to get to Lvl 100 and who farm for a few months to get Rank 9, But the players who farm the affordable gear aka G16. Think about how much of a hard time they must have had to get that gear. And you just slap in their face and say "I DId the same thing u did, But i got Rank9rrr" Am i the only one that sees this?Why cant they just admit to Buying it i dont see any possible shame in that. In another post i figured it out, It's more of a psychological thing. The players that are willing to Spend that much money on rank9rrr most likely occupies most of their time here. So in a sense, They feel at Home here. and Just like the the real world, you want the respect of your peers. Saying "I farmmed and worked hard for my r9rrr +12 gear" Would imply that you are a Extremely hard worker, which would theoretically earn you that respect from your peers on the server.Even if it is untrue. As sad as it sounds

OPKossy! thank you for cleaning that post up for me. I think im done here though. I hope these people dont fill the thread maker's head up with righteous-sounding False hope.

Jaabg - Sanctuary

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I hope these people dont fill the thread maker's head up with righteous-sounding False hope.

Just because you can't do it, does not mean others can not do it. That is what everyone tried to tell you, but you don't read.

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Just because you can't do it, does not mean others can not do it. That is what everyone tried to tell you, but you don't read.

I do read. You obviously don't. Explain to me One way a New player just starting out, From Lvl One-100, can "FARM" enough Money for Rank 9rrr gear in a few months to a year without spending One dime. But you probably wont be able to do that. Which is why i considered your post useless.

trands

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I do read. You obviously don't. Explain to me One way a New player just starting out, From Lvl One-100, can "FARM" enough Money for Rank 9rrr gear in a few months to a year without spending One dime. But you probably wont be able to do that. Which is why i considered your post useless.

Explain to me how any cashshopper that straight buys r9, would get any form of satisfaction for being seen as a no-lifer kiddo? I'm a cashshopper and never hide it. My skills to run a real business give me more "respect" then skills to run a catshop and soloing instances for hours b:laugh

Fryvorg - Sanctuary

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I do read. You obviously don't. Explain to me One way a New player just starting out, From Lvl One-100, can "FARM" enough Money for Rank 9rrr gear in a few months to a year without spending One dime. But you probably wont be able to do that. Which is why i considered your post useless.

From scratch in a few months? Impossible.
It might be possible within a year with merching, though. But the thing is, people who got their gear without cash are those who are there for several years. They took advantage of new things and be the first to acquire such. They got all the rewards that were given out in the past, do every event etc. They have enough alts to do their own BH squads. Maybe they charged in the beginning, but stopped doing so when they figured farming/merching is efficient enough. They might have started with a different toon and switched to a new one, but gearing up the second went way faster because they had help with dual clienting. Almost every player has a 5 aps sin to farm TT besides their main. And so on, there have been many options described in the thread. People find their own niche and won't explain all their tricks. Everyone has their own pace. But the key point is: Patience.

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

trands wrote: »

Explain to me how any cashshopper that straight buys r9, would get any form of satisfaction for being seen as a no-lifer kiddo? I'm a cashshopper and never hide it. My skills to run a real business give me more "respect" then skills to run a catshop and soloing instances for hours b:laugh

They Don't get any satisfaction from being seen like that, Just as you Clearly Said. Which is where the Lieing part comes into play at. You unfortunately are not what the average player is. You tell the truth, You bought R9 with cash shop, And you didnt claim to farm it in a couple of months. THEY do. You getting it a little confused here, cashshopping was Never the problem to began with. Its the false claim that the cashshoppers use saying they farmed it.

bloodedone87

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I do read. You obviously don't. Explain to me One way a New player just starting out, From Lvl One-100, can "FARM" enough Money for Rank 9rrr gear in a few months to a year without spending One dime. But you probably wont be able to do that. Which is why i considered your post useless.

If i tell you right now that you can get 90mil per weak only with JOJ, FSP, farming herbs and NW would you believe me? And there are many other ways to make money.
You dont start farming R9RR with TT99 gear. You would be stupid doing that. Ppl that start farming R9rr didnt start farming using TT 99 or T1 , they start after T2 or even better T3.Farming with T3 is faster then farming with T1 or T2. Thats how they got in same amount of time. Also depends how many hours per day you play this game. If you play 3-4 hour per day takes more farming. if you play 9-10 hours take less time.

Sel_Darkmore - Dreamweaver

Okay ur post has gotten me confused i thought u was asking how was it possible for you with ur current gear to be able to farm R9.

If u asking how does a brand new player obtain r9 without cash then the disscussion could have gone differantly.

For a brand new player that started this game as in Tomorrow..hell first thing in my mind is jolly jones to start a bank. All those pve gear thats dropping in fbs are awsome compared to back in the days . I remember farming coins just for 3 star gear way back or even crafting my own stuff.

it gonna be a long post of details but yeah it would easier now . The typical thing was quest gear which is alot better now in fact..then the stuff that drops in fbs pretty good for just getting to 90s hell that cape that i seen drop in 69 was pretty close to the cape ur using. I dont mean the Mold one either. Soon as i reached 80s i would do alof of farming in the areas of Crafting mats and herbs cause the lazy one that dont want to farm the mats to increase his crafting level so that he can make his G15 gear will just buy the mats if he had coins or cashed it if not buy the Crafting Training box in cashshop.

The Farmer is the person spending x amount of time going around finding the hot spots to collect crafting mats and sell them to the catshops thats buying them aka the merchant. Which do u want to be is the question. Getting to 100 ofc is the pretty much key thing to do cause some times when ur lucky from BH 100 it can give u a 2 mil or 5 mill boost to what u want to do.

how to get to 100 well ofc u got the buying FC B/M/H ..where do u get the coins to pay ur 100-250k spot/ hypers? Jolly Quest or farm mats and herbs and sale them to catshops. Hell it u want to use Jolly coins for rep thats on the player the rep is free . Once u able to do morai, u can save ur influence for rep there. I myself have gotten help from morai dailies to help close the 300k rep gap from 200k. Yeah u sacrifice getting some skills early on but oh well as a farmer u dont have the Sweet in the Holiday inn. U ride Cargo and deal with what u got and make the best of it. Its just like in Real life..some got it made easy some bust they azz dailiy.

trands

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

They Don't get any satisfaction from being seen like that, Just as you Clearly Said. Which is where the Lieing part comes into play at. You unfortunately are not what the average player is. You tell the truth, You bought R9 with cash shop, And you didnt claim to farm it in a couple of months. THEY do. You getting it a little confused here, cashshopping was Never the problem to began with. Its the false claim that the cashshoppers use saying they farmed it.

Let's put it the opposite.

All those who tell me they farm it, are actively online for hours every day. They are all students, jobless, partimers and so on. The main 2 players on my server that always are talking about f2p top-gear are known to be hardcore players with tons of alts and spending more time ingame then I consider healthy. All those who farm their gear regularly complain about how boring it is to solo the same instance over and over. They all play daily and can't sleep unless they completed every daily on at least 3 characters.

You act like I'm some exception, but that's not the case. There is no reason to lie about not charging zen. It is very possible to farm r9. They do the same you do, but in 10fold. There are plenty of big cashshoppers, everyone knows they are, they don't hide it and nobody really cares. Heck, they even got a better reputation in general, because they also just help others without getting paid for it.

MyMate - Dreamweaver

This thread is kinda hillarious to read xD

@Gaykamitarie:
What you seem to fail to realize is that this is a 7 year old game. Most people who actually farmed their r9 have been here for years and have allready the nessesary knowledge and resorces (read toons/gear) to actually make it. The odd newcommer to a game this old will naturally have a daunting task ahead of them if they ever wanna catch up to the veterans. Most don't, while some actually pull it off. How? Dedication and a will to learn and addapt. Something you obviously lack.

You say you don't do certain instances cause you think you can't survive in them? Well, that's a very limiting approach and one that don't work in a mmorpg. You have to try to know, and if you fail at first you just get up and try again. Get a nice faction where you can ask questions and have people to help you learn. If you can't do that, improve your social skills or play offline games.

Another thing you need to understand is that the economy wasn't this bad up until very resently. Most people had an easier time getting their r9, shard it and refine it then someone starting now. On the other hand, leveling and getting pre-endgame gear (g15/16) is much easier.

Every singel advice in this thread would make you money, money you could merch with, or upgrade gear with to improve your money/h rate, or just plain and simple save for r9. But you don't believe in any of this. You got a childish attitude of "I want it and I want it NOW!" and cannot understand stuff like dedication or the concept of "hard work pays off".

It's an old mmorpg so it's only natural that competitve endgame takes time to achive. Or you cash. Simple as that. So stop being so damn ignorant and actually listen. Or don't, cause it's kinda amusing. Either way, the sky is the limit and only you can achive it.

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

Sel_Darkmore - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Okay ur post has gotten me confused i thought u was asking how was it possible for you with ur current gear to be able to farm R9.

If u asking how does a brand new player obtain r9 without cash then the disscussion could have gone differantly.

For a brand new player that started this game as in Tomorrow..hell first thing in my mind is jolly jones to start a bank. All those pve gear thats dropping in fbs are awsome compared to back in the days . I remember farming coins just for 3 star gear way back or even crafting my own stuff.

it gonna be a long post of details but yeah it would easier now . The typical thing was quest gear which is alot better now in fact..then the stuff that drops in fbs pretty good for just getting to 90s hell that cape that i seen drop in 69 was pretty close to the cape ur using. I dont mean the Mold one either. Soon as i reached 80s i would do alof of farming in the areas of Crafting mats and herbs cause the lazy one that dont want to farm the mats to increase his crafting level so that he can make his G15 gear will just buy the mats if he had coins or cashed it if not buy the Crafting Training box in cashshop.

The Farmer is the person spending x amount of time going around finding the hot spots to collect crafting mats and sell them to the catshops thats buying them aka the merchant. Which do u want to be is the question. Getting to 100 ofc is the pretty much key thing to do cause some times when ur lucky from BH 100 it can give u a 2 mil or 5 mill boost to what u want to do.

how to get to 100 well ofc u got the buying FC B/M/H ..where do u get the coins to pay ur 100-250k spot/ hypers? Jolly Quest or farm mats and herbs and sale them to catshops. Hell it u want to use Jolly coins for rep thats on the player the rep is free . Once u able to do morai, u can save ur influence for rep there. I myself have gotten help from morai dailies to help close the 300k rep gap from 200k. Yeah u sacrifice getting some skills early on but oh well as a farmer u dont have the Sweet in the Holiday inn. U ride Cargo and deal with what u got and make the best of it. Its just like in Real life..some got it made easy some bust they azz dailiy.

I actually planed on getting back to 100 to try the FSP thing, I Doubt it's catshops that set up Buying c lvl warcards that's Always there? I could be wrong though. But i was gonna try none the less. Ofc it'll be next to impossible to get Into a FSP squad because i've never been before.

Well to make it clear, What i did for the R8 gear Would be considered a Part of getting Rank 9. What i mean by that is, Well i personally Wont get it. But if a player was in my shoes, He'd have to get his 130m+ up for the 200k rep, Remember this is all adding to the R9 cost. So him getting the rep up, would take Weeks. Remember he's also not 100, and He's a new player he cant solo TTs. it took me months and months even though i bought like 20 gold. But he's not doing that. So add the 66m i got from the 20g at the time, to the NW and.....herb farming? Also this is all while Progressing from 1-100 with FB drop gear i guess. This would take him nearly a Year to get Rank 8 Rep up IF he did it this way. And another 3 or 4 to get R9 if he continued to do it that way, But the point your trying to make is that, you can cut some of that time in half by doing things like, FSP and WS? But lets say the user decided to Not buy R8 from the start, He decides to use TT90 gear that He had to buy and take away from the budget, But it's no where near a big of a dent as the R8 would have, But You still have to buy it later And that user with the tt90 would still be able to do the same instances the one with the R8 gear would? I very very seriously doubt that. So Take those instances out of the equation, that user with the TT90 is stuck with NW and herb farming. Turning the TT90 gear into tt99 isnt some magical thing. It'll take away from his R8 budget This is all going on for the frame of a year. So now that they both got the 200k rep up. Its time to focus on R9. player one who chose to get the r8 early can do things like warsong? or those type of instances to help him add onto the cost of the VERY and i mean VERY hefty pricetag of R9. Also he's doing this all one One character for the remainder of 3 or 4 years and not getting bored.

MyMate - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This thread is kinda hillarious to read xD

@Gaykamitarie:
What you seem to fail to realize is that this is a 7 year old game. Most people who actually farmed their r9 have been here for years and have allready the nessesary knowledge and resorces (read toons/gear) to actually make it. The odd newcommer to a game this old will naturally have a daunting task ahead of them if they ever wanna catch up to the veterans. Most don't, while some actually pull it off. How? Dedication and a will to learn and addapt. Something you obviously lack.

You say you don't do certain instances cause you think you can't survive in them? Well, that's a very limiting approach and one that don't work in a mmorpg. You have to try to know, and if you fail at first you just get up and try again. Get a nice faction where you can ask questions and have people to help you learn. If you can't do that, improve your social skills or play offline games.

Another thing you need to understand is that the economy wasn't this bad up until very resently. Most people had an easier time getting their r9, shard it and refine it then someone starting now. On the other hand, leveling and getting pre-endgame gear (g15/16) is much easier.

Every singel advice in this thread would make you money, money you could merch with, or upgrade gear with to improve your money/h rate, or just plain and simple save for r9. But you don't believe in any of this. You got a childish attitude of "I want it and I want it NOW!" and cannot understand stuff like dedication or the concept of "hard work pays off".

It's an old mmorpg so it's only natural that competitve endgame takes time to achive. Or you cash. Simple as that. So stop being so damn ignorant and actually listen. Or don't, cause it's kinda amusing. Either way, the sky is the limit and only you can achive it.

Let me put this in perspective, and hopefully opkossy can merge my post again.


jUST because 5 or 10 users took 2-4 years to Farm Rank 9 doesnt mean everyone with the gear did.
In this whole fourm it's only been 1 person to claim they actually bought the R9, while nearly the rest of the users claimed farmed it.
Their lieing off of a theoretical situation. Sure Rank 9 is farmable, But it'll take you 2-4 years to do it with the current Ways to earn money here without spending a dime.
They think that just because it's thoerecticlly possible, They can just say" I farmed it" even though they bought it. So when you Break it down to the core, The response would be "Im not shareing my secrets with you" That's because the secret's dont exsist.

For example: Lets say, It's a group of people at the beach. And it's a great white shark in the water, You know the shark is there but you go into the water anyway TO Impress the most likely Drunken group of people, He came back alive But The odds are The shark is going to tear your limbs off and kill you. However it's been reported cases in the past where people have came out of that senerio Alive. This is the "Representation of farmming" It's possible to Not get eaten by the shark, All though it's highly unlikely.

Now, Lets say it's the same group of people but with a different person who goes into the water with the shark. He does the same thing as the first, But Earlier he paid someone to have the Shark Removed. He's the only one that knows, That and the person who he paid. So he goes into the water like the first and Comes back alive and safe and brags to the group of people how he didnt get harmed. This is the equivalent to the"obvious"cashshoppers saying the farmed it. They know it's possible in Theory so they pray on that fact. it's only natural to find evidence to try and support the claim. Which is where the people farming G16 comes in, They just say they farmmed it the same way.

All for the respect of their peers, They would Lie. This is the internet. It's not inconceivable.

I come to the conclusion that, Just because 5 users May have spent 3 or 4 years to farm their Rank9rrr +10 gear, Doesnt mean that Everyone who has it did the same thing. I doubt those players even still play.

bloodedone87

Its no sense to discuss with you. You don't want to accept the fact that ppl are smarter then you are and can make money faster then you. Even new players. Probably you would call me a lier if i tell you i got 200k rep, r8 top, r8rr daggs, 2 +5 Orbs , 2 HP and 2 Mp charm, fashion weapon, toxic torrent skill, and other 3 demon skills all in a mount.And thats lame compared to others.

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Its no sense to discuss with you. You don't want to accept the fact that ppl are smarter then you are and can make money faster then you. Even new players. Probably you would call me a lier if i tell you i got 200k rep, r8 top, r8rr daggs, 2 +5 Orbs , 2 HP and 2 Mp charm, fashion weapon, toxic torrent skill, and other 3 demon skills all in a mount.And thats lame compared to others.

Useless post number 2 for you. Keep em coming. Idiot. You just had to take it to the insults because i disagreed with you or didnt see it your way. I don't understand why people that are like you are ever allowed to keep breathing. It's called a debut, Not a "LISTen to what i say and belive me or i will call you dumb"

bloodedone87

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Useless post number 2 for you. Keep em coming. Idiot. You just had to take it to the insults because i disagreed with you or didnt see it your way. I don't understand why people that are like you are ever allowed to keep breathing. It's called a debut, Not a "LISTen to what i say and belive me or i will call you dumb"

You re the one that is insulting me. And now you want me dead. Its not just seeing my way. Its all the other ppl ways that have explained to you. We all are kinda on the same page. Only you see it as useless post. I think you wanted to say debate not debut. But im more convinced that you have no idea how to make money fast. Actualy i was convinced since you had no idea how to make money with FSP.

michaelcolli

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I barely managed to get Rank 8 Recast on my cleric,And before you start, Do not even compare the pricetag of this gear to Rank 9, i went though Hundreds of mirges to get to +4 on the gear and used tinkun stones to get +5 on the gear. THE hundreds of Mirge stones i used came from Nation wars. 500 celstones at 10k each is More than doable with NW money, It's no reason for people to lie about that. Now, the hardest part in getting the rank gear was the 200k rep by far. I did some math, and i knew that it would cost me around 130m Just for the Rep, Not including the recast cost. But in order to get the heffty 130m up, i knew i would have to Depend on Nation war's and the rep sale itself. I also used Real money whenever i had it. At the time, Gold was around 1.8m so i used a 20$ card. Which would make it around 36m, a pretty big dent in the 130 Right? But that was a rare thing, and i didnt do it every day. The rest i got from nation wars, Now on a good day, in a winning nation, i would earn 7m. On a bad or average day, i would earn 5m. So 5m+5m is 10m. That is what my income was Every week to go towards the 130m pricetag for the 200k Rep.

Now Question you might or might not have, Why didnt i Solo FC for money? Because as a progressing cleric i was unable to.

Why didnt i solo TT? i was a progressing cleric coming up from 1-100. i was not able to.

why didnt i do WS? My gear was too bad and i didnt meet the lvl requirement, and even if i did, i would be too weak to help the squad in any way. So i was not invited, and i was Not able to.

Why didnt i merch? Because These Happy-go-luckie people who are super Happy to Give up a item that cost 10m for 5m Doesnt exist everyday Like some people would want you to believe. And they also act as if there's no competition in the merc maket. in short words, I was not able to.

That leaves me with Nation wars, it took me an extremely long time to get the 200k rep up, But once i had it the Reforging process was considered Doable compared to getting 130m up.

In closeing, If you try and get Rank 9 this way, It would take you years. If you made a claim like "i never spent a dime" It would take you 2 or 3 years or more. If merchanting the best response they can give, i 100% Do not believe they can get their rank 9 gear without spending 2 or 3 years. Or unless they Buy merchanting items Daily that cost 100m and they get it for 50. Which would call that warrenwolfy a lier saying you dont need Money to make money. You could also cashshop. Which The Rank9rrr Most likely Did.

mygod your a ****** im dutch so dont play a grammar **** to al grammar ****'s around. i made this account 3 years ago played it for 2 weeks then quited and started back up last summer invested 30 euro got myself 33 gold or so dont remeber for sure whatever. annyways guess what you clearly dont understand how to merch you keep talking about people selling you items half price thats nor merching. you clearly didnt read the warrenwolf guide as you dont seem to know how to merch annyways. i started merching in the late summer/autum and made 2 bill in a time frame of 2 months. now after not merching that much annymore and investing in some gear and other stuffs my wealth is around 7-8 bill wich i could increase fast if i would to but this game just doesnt feel like worth it annymore. annyways i've never farmed in my game play and talking of wich i never pick up drops and always use charms and crabs and stuff lol i pla the expensive way with appo pots for sparks and stuff. so shut up and read the guide.

bloodedone87

Also saying that ppl are smarter then you is not an insult. There are ppl that are smarter then me. I accept that.But clearly I am smarter then you.

Toliman - Raging Tide

Sel_Darkmore - Dreamweaver wrote: »

... a lot of farming ... just buy the mats if he had coins or cashed it if not buy the Crafting Training box in cashshop.

The Farmer is the person spending x amount of time going around finding the hot spots to collect crafting mats and sell them to the catshops thats buying them aka the merchant. Which do u want to be is the question. Getting to 100 ofc is the pretty much key thing to do cause some times when ur lucky from BH 100 it can give u a 2 mil or 5 mill boost to what u want to do.

how to get to 100 well ofc u got the buying FC B/M/H ..where do u get the coins to pay ur 100-250k spot/ hypers? Jolly Quest or farm mats and herbs and sale them to catshops. Hell it u want to use Jolly coins for rep thats on the player the rep is free . Once u able to do morai, u can save ur influence for rep there. I myself have gotten help from morai dailies to help close the 300k rep gap from 200k. Yeah u sacrifice getting some skills early on but oh well as a farmer u dont have the Sweet in the Holiday inn. U ride Cargo and deal with what u got and make the best of it. Its just like in Real life..some got it made easy some bust they azz dailiy.

Above is like instruction of work.

b:chuckle

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

michaelcolli wrote: »

mygod your a ****** im dutch so dont play a grammar **** to al grammar ****'s around. i made this account 3 years ago played it for 2 weeks then quited and started back up last summer invested 30 euro got myself 33 gold or so dont remeber for sure whatever. annyways guess what you clearly dont understand how to merch you keep talking about people selling you items half price thats nor merching. you clearly didnt read the warrenwolf guide as you dont seem to know how to merch annyways. i started merching in the late summer/autum and made 2 bill in a time frame of 2 months. now after not merching that much annymore and investing in some gear and other stuffs my wealth is around 7-8 bill wich i could increase fast if i would to but this game just doesnt feel like worth it annymore. annyways i've never farmed in my game play and talking of wich i never pick up drops and always use charms and crabs and stuff lol i pla the expensive way with appo pots for sparks and stuff. so shut up and read the guide.

i dont understand, why would u be bad at English But still try and find a way to make a pathetic Insult? The only insult im going to give u back is Not reading your full post.

bloodedone87 wrote: »

You re the one that is insulting me. And now you want me dead. Its not just seeing my way. Its all the other ppl ways that have explained to you. We all are kinda on the same page. Only you see it as useless post. I think you wanted to say debate not debut. But im more convinced that you have no idea how to make money fast. Actualy i was convinced since you had no idea how to make money with FSP.

You sure did twist alot of words around. it may be some people smarter than me, But i would put my Real Life at steak to say it isnt you. lol

you didnt explain anything, you just read what other's typed and Twisted the words around again.

bloodedone87

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You sure did twist alot of words around. it may be some people smarter than me, But i would put my Real Life at steak to say it isnt you. lol

you didnt explain anything, you just read what other's typed and Twisted the words around again.

Others explained to you very well. Doing that would have been just rewriting what they said.

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Others explained to you very well. Doing that would have been just rewriting what they said.

News flash, Just because someone Explains somthing doesent mean i have to take their word as the Gospel, I already knew that Rank 9 could be farmmed in 2 or 3 years for players who already have high lvl gear. They responded back that it doesn't take that long to farm it and it only took them a Few Months to get their Rank9 without spending a dime. IN your particular case its like this: "Hai everyone my name is Jerrie and i flew to the atlantic ocean in 2 minutes with my arms chopped off and bleeding out" And anyone who doubts it is considered "dumb" It's childish. But i ran into people like you before. I refuse to get this thread off topic, so How about this. I'll give you One year. And you explain to me how someone can get Rank9rrr in that Year with only the option's in the game. Make a list, and i'll explain to you the Flaws in that list, Or the supposed flaws. And then you'll get mad and say "your not reading" or something.


On second thought, i rather would go to bed. it's pretty obvious you cant get it in a year and you prolly know that as well. It's theoretically possible to Farm the R9 gear in 3 or 4 years using the options in the game. It's also theoretically possible that you can survive a deadly car crash. All though the odds are highly unlikely.

normally it wouldn't be a problem for people who bought the rank 9 gear, and i would go so far as to say it's none of my business. But over the years you players developed some kind of sense that "Buying gear is bad" Or it makes you look like a no-lifed dork who doesn't talk to anyone. When in reality that's not the case. so as a defense for being called a CS'er, You disrespect the Real players who farm for real. Maybe not Rank 9, But it's still farming none the less. But once again. They dont care. They only care about how they, themselves will be seen. With that im done. We can agree to Disagree, and let this thread die. Or you can keep posting, Either way, I've said my thoughts on the subject. Im also not a fourm user so i wont be tuneing in tomorrow for another Round. Not saying i have anything people who do, Im not convinced. A few users gave a few Ideas that would be helpful for higher lvls to Earn the Required coin for R9rrr, to the tread starter, If you want extra coin i would suggest listening to some of sel's ideas. Even following them, You'll still need to donate 2-4 years of your life for that gear set, and if you do, You'll be one of the only ones who did it. For real, and not ones who bought it and said they put blood sweet and tears into farmming it. Which is a Ton of people on our server.

SHIMBERLY - Heavens Tear

Oh I know I could farm it in a year,hell I would have had it by now but decided to s3 2 toons ,and making 6-7 more s3 weapons ,and before stuff went cheap and easy to get I spent a bukake of millions on the gear my LA toons wear..you know like when s1 daggers was 200mill,then +10ing them along with all the other **** like lets say leggings though +5 with x2 vit stones in it lol..so yeah,not to mention when striking dragons were like 150mill..blah anyways I don't have a main toon so that's the reason I never even cared about r9.Now days **** is getting boring and im stacking coin like a mad man because I dotn want anything so now its basicly deciding on a toon I want to have r9..wich prob will be my psy since psy are like gods.

And the weird thing I don't even have to bust my tail getting coin in this game..i just run bh's for the luck of 2 xtc or 5mill excitement cards,yeah I have to say im lucky,and selling junk and I meen junk like making molds,selling junk...use your manufacturing skills it wil lget you all some where.

michaelcolli

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

i dont understand, why would u be bad at English But still try and find a way to make a pathetic Insult? The only insult im going to give u back is Not reading your full post.


You sure did twist alot of words around. it may be some people smarter than me, But i would put my Real Life at steak to say it isnt you. lol

you didnt explain anything, you just read what other's typed and Twisted the words around again.

you should read it might come in handy for you since u clearly dont understand how to play this game. cant say i do since i never play annyways but i do know how to generate money in a short amount of time..b:victory

bloodedone87

Gaykamitarie - Dreamweaver wrote: »

News flash, Just because someone Explains somthing doesent mean i have to take their word as the Gospel, I already knew that Rank 9 could be farmmed in 2 or 3 years for players who already have high lvl gear. They responded back that it doesn't take that long to farm it and it only took them a Few Months to get their Rank9 without spending a dime. IN your particular case its like this: "Hai everyone my name is Jerrie and i flew to the atlantic ocean in 2 minutes with my arms chopped off and bleeding out" And anyone who doubts it is considered "dumb" It's childish. But i ran into people like you before. I refuse to get this thread off topic, so How about this. I'll give you One year. And you explain to me how someone can get Rank9rrr in that Year with only the option's in the game. Make a list, and i'll explain to you the Flaws in that list, Or the supposed flaws. And then you'll get mad and say "your not reading" or somthing.

You have the mind of an 14-15 year old adolescent that is arguing with everyone. Go ahead and insult me cause probably thats what you ll do. I never claimed that you can get R9rrr in 1 year. Maybe in 2 years. And that without spending a dime. I can explain to you how you get it even if i dont have R9rrr. Why i dont have it? Cause i dont play as much as other does. How i know my method is posible? Cause others did it. But why batter explain to you since you already assumed there will be flaws in my list.
But ill explain to you how you can make around 68 mil per weak with a lvl 100 reborn char with T1 gear.

1 Farm plants in hell. Watch catshops in thousand streams and see what herbs are buyed with higher prices. Farm those plants. There are 5. 2 can be sell with the price between 1000-1500 coins and the other 3 can be sell 2500-3000. Lets say you would sell all the price of 2000k each. If you gather like 500 per each herb thats 2500 herbs in 1 day. In a week 175 x 2000 each=35 milions in a weak.

2 jolly old jones daily quest. Im assuming you know what this is. If you have 2 acounts with 2 chars and other 2 chars per acount. 1 lvl 61-70 and the other lvl 71-80 you make like this:
lvl 61-70 char: 73000 coins each quest done and 131000 for taking the orders. Thats 73000x7=511000+131000= 642000. Lets say 600000 cause probably you ll spend money on teleporter for some quests.For 2 chars thats 1,2 mil per day. In a weak is 8,4 mil.
lvl 71-80 char: 88000 coins each quest done and 158000 for taking the orders. 88000x7=616000+158000= 774000. We say 700000 x2 = 1,4 mil. in a weak 9,8 mil.
8400000+9800000= 18200000 in a weak.

3 FSP. You get 20 fsp coins per day. You can make 10 C packs with them. Sell them to a catshop with 200k and you have 2mil in a day. In a weak you have 14 mil

35000000+18200000+ 140000000= 67200000 in a weak.

And there are many other ways you can get money.

Toliman - Raging Tide

bloodedone87 wrote: »

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1 Farm plants in hell. Watch catshops in thousand streams and see what herbs are buyed with higher prices. Farm those plants. There are 5. 2 can be sell with the price between 1000-1500 coins and the other 3 can be sell 2500-3000. Lets say you would sell all the price of 2000k each. If you gather like 500 per each herb thats 2500 herbs in 1 day. In a week 175 x 2000 each=35 milions in a weak.
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And there are many other ways you can get money.

2500 herbs per day mean 1250 clicks (at least) per day.
If for each 2 herbs player must spent 10 seconds to dig them, then it mean 1250*10=12500 seconds =208 minutes =3.5 hours to dig (without waiting for respawn or to fly to herbs)

Remember, that this is MMO, what mean:many players want to gather herbs and sometimes herbs can be absent (other player got them).

In total it will be about 8-10 hours of hard work during day.

Have a fun, players !!!

HideYoHubby - Archosaur

This thread is gold. I really wonder if its a troll or not.

Jolly quests are amazing at creating small capital, herbs, least on archo are so rare one can make pretty decent coin farming them. Hour a day and you will land fair amount on weekly basis with herbs.

Next step is merching with the capital, maybe gearing up a bit so you can do other things. That will get you to N2 stage in fairly easy manner and N2 is enough to solo pav in WS, do BHs, etc. As a cleric it should be extremely easy as cleric is pretty much easiest class to solo pav with if you know what you are doing. As cleric you can also skip the wep links and other **** some classes have to go trough simply because clerics gear is fairly irrelevant for WS these days. Its the buffs and the BB dmg reduction pretty much why ppl even care to have cleric in WS these days. With N3 gear FSP is easy thing to add on list of things to do daily.

After that it really is bout merching smart, doing dailies that offer money(BH, Jones, FSP if you dont use coins yourself). The more you play, the more of "extra" capital you make. Then again I personally think if one got a job one values their time more and just drops the money for base capital.

bloodedone87

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

2500 herbs per day mean 1250 clicks (at least) per day.
If for each 2 herbs player must spent 10 seconds to dig them, then it mean 1250*10=12500 seconds =208 minutes =3.5 hours to dig (without waiting for respawn or to fly to herbs)

Remember, that this is MMO, what mean:many players want to gather herbs and sometimes herbs can be absent (other player got them).

In total it will be about 8-10 hours of hard work during day.

Have a fun, players !!!

Didnt say its fast or easy. Also depends on luck. Or the place you farm herbs. I have luck and if im not lazy can farm like 400-500 herbs for each per day in like 6 hours. I use a mount to travel fast. And if there is other player i try to be faster than him.

Toliman - Raging Tide

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Didnt say its fast or easy. Also depends on luck. Or the place you farm herbs. I have luck and if im not lazy can farm like 400-500 herbs for each per day in like 6 hours. I use a mount to travel fast. And if there is other player i try to be faster than him.

If you would say it about work, then I would say other words, but this is game.

bloodedone87

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

If you would say it about work, then I would say other words, but this is game.

Im afraid i didnt understand what you try to say here.

Toliman - Raging Tide

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Im afraid i didnt understand what you try to say here.

6 hours of your work in pwi is your fun, sorry if you can't understand, what mean game.

bloodedone87

Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »

6 hours of your work in pwi is your fun, sorry if you can't understand, what mean game.

Sorry for not being an american. And its not fun at all. That why i dont do it every weak. But you are patient and nothing to do especially here in Romania during winter time when you cannot get out of house cause of the bad weather ....