Deity, Jades, or a blend?

Burnout - Harshlands

Aeliah - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I think its both tbh. His luck is good to begin with, and then because he triple sparks, he gets in more hits when it really counts (aka, the purges he gets from a triple spark are usually purges that lead to somebody's death).

With a 93/100, 130 magic genie for lots of cloud eruption, the 'lotsa triple spark' style can kinda actually work in some situations.

Archers have a key advantage in this: they have an effective long range CC even after they burn all their chi, while caster classes need at least 1 spark to use most of their cc's. So a triple spark from an archer can be pretty damn scary.

Most classes(sin/barb/etc) resort to using Occult ice, but that's kinda of iffy most of the time unless your genie has mega-str.

__Sami__ - Archosaur

Am I really that alone in giggling when people triple spark as there is nothing easier than landing stun before they can do anything? Sure they could chain AD/have used WoG earlier but that could kinda kill huge amounts of resources on one combo, which you can just walk away. Well short of Aim low(no running), WoG(no stunning), awaken, triple spark, stun(cause archer triple spark soo scary cause they no need chi for cc). Seriously, the problem with triple spark is you either spend so much resources its ridiculous or its complete waste of time. If archer only triple sparks and doesnt use resource to keep you there and avoid getting CCd themselves and you happen to die, you deserved it.

Burnout - Harshlands

__Sami__ - Archosaur wrote: »

Am I really that alone in giggling when people triple spark as there is nothing easier than landing stun before they can do anything? Sure they could chain AD/have used WoG earlier but that could kinda kill huge amounts of resources on one combo, which you can just walk away. Well short of Aim low(no running), WoG(no stunning), awaken, triple spark, stun(cause archer triple spark soo scary cause they no need chi for cc). Seriously, the problem with triple spark is you either spend so much resources its ridiculous or its complete waste of time. If archer only triple sparks and doesnt use resource to keep you there and avoid getting CCd themselves and you happen to die, you deserved it.

The problem isn't the triple spark. It's dealing with multiple triple sparks in a short time-frame, especially if they're used properly. Isn't that why archers feared aps sins way back? Multiple triple/double sparks plus copious amounts of CC? You can answer the first few but eventually you slip up, and then they *stab stab stab* you to death.

If you can only triple spark once, then yeah, it's pretty stupid to do it.

__Sami__ - Archosaur

Burnout - Harshlands wrote: »

The problem isn't the triple spark. It's dealing with multiple triple sparks in a short time-frame, especially if they're used properly. Isn't that why archers feared aps sins way back? Multiple triple/double sparks plus copious amounts of CC? You can answer the first few but eventually you slip up, and then they *stab stab stab* you to death.

If you can only triple spark once, then yeah, it's pretty stupid to do it.

I mostly play my sin currently and imo spamming triple spark is pretty idiotic way to go at it, burns even sins resources fairly quick. Problem for archer with sins is they can aps and generate decent chi and dps, they can keep archers locked fairly easy. Problem is archers dont have get out of jail free card like casters on their weapon and as they arent beefy enough to handle it like melee classes. Oh never forget, halved dmg on sin right next to you if you happen to get shot in. Comparing sin CC skills to archers is utterly **** though, sin can keep you locked for so long at ease its pretty stupid, discounting genie of course. Only reason I can see sin triple spark is HA target pretty much, easy to generate chi back on them and I for one have to triple spark on sin just to get trough their charm, sucks to PvP on farming toon .

FlyRanger - Dreamweaver

I can spark 4 times back to back depending on the situation, and I think it's auseful tactic in group pk, since the team who has the most purge power usually wins in group pvp.

I have a good genie setup, and lately I've been staying back rather than running forward and trying to tank/pop Apos off of opponents.

Cawcawwww - Archosaur

_omegis_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

However, if you do smaller fights like PK or NW, Jades is better. Even though archers lament it takes forever to kill certain other Jade R999...I find archers spend more time moving than hitting out of necessity, especially against HA, so most of the time the defense serves you better IMO.

I just started NW on my archer, since I have been using my seeker. I gotta say those full JoSD characters out there are so much easier to kill on archer w purge then they were on seeker. Some OP venos I used to run from on seeker are now prey in NW

RE OP: Im workin on 2 pieces full DoT while farmin Morai for exclusive garnets for the rest of my gear. Once those 2 pieces are deity (months down the line) I'll go one piece at a time to DoT then deity.

Sint - Harshlands

You triple spark on an endgame archer only when you have to. So either you're saving your own life or you've got someone where they have no move to make. In group pvp, trip sparking is ****, unless you're somehow surrounded by a lot of people who need to get killed quick. Unless someone else is going to stun your targets for you, triple sparking at max range on people who are neither blind nor stupid is asking to be laughed at.

Also, to the cleric posting walls of text; please go back to wiz/barb forums. And by the way, your opinion on who knows how to play an archer might be recieved with less scepticism if you weren't also the author of wonderful phrases like "talented veno uses purge" and "talented cleric sticks to flag carrier"

On topic: Deities make you more likely to kill people, and if i can tank most people on my crappy archer, anyone with better gear than mine who's having trouble needs to man up and l2p.