Undocumented Changes [3-20-2013]

ovenusarmanio

Hey guys please keep all discussion about FC to this thread: http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1574841 This is for listing all the changes that were not documented in the patch notes. I left this thread as a reference (moved it from here) if you would like to see what your comment was/quote someone else. http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1575061

Desdi - Sanctuary

Thanks for starting up this thread Hey, you! I'll try to keep an eye on things and see if I can find anything else that was not meant to be in our version.

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Erryne - Sanctuary

Undocumented change:
-Attendance and talisman trade window being bigger, little impact.
-The 2nd chat window (named general in the chat channel set-up, which at standard only display exp/sp), now everytime you minimize the game and re-maximise it, it goes back to it's default spot, be it full screen or window. Get annoying fast to anyone who used a different spot for it (used to not go back to default in the past when re-logging on the character, but that was live-able).

SweetieBot - Lothranis

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Levantica - Raging Tide

Twilight Temple drop rate has been substantially reduced. (Unconfirmed; will follow up on this.)

I just finish making 5 TT runs 3-1 and i got no Ribbon what so ever and i only get 10 green materials from all 5 runs. I knew something was wrong and i just read now. Thank you for trying to fix this. b:thanks

Nekhebet - Heavens Tear

I won't post anything new.But i do have a question : do you people(PWE Staff) actually test the sht you give us or you just translate it? Cause it makes no sense that 1 patch can have so many bugs. And if u do test it you should fire all the monkeys that did the testing cause even my 7yo son could test it better.

Have a nice day!! And Enjoy PW!!

OIdpop - Heavens Tear

prob because people killing a few mobs and tele through wall to kill the boss lolz..see what happens when people abuse ****..the gods take **** away,trying to keep us solo artist handicapped in TT because TT now is on a roll with its gold materials and people making bank and getting rich so yeah they like to handicap people actually making ingame coin..just liek with RB,just like with fairy boxes..etc etc ...e freakin tc.But oh well its thier game,live,adapt ..or quit,they arent forcing people to playb:bye

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

v4liance wrote: »

- Twilight Temple drop rate has been substantially reduced. (Unconfirmed; will follow up on this.)

Wow, I hope this isn't the case. I really hope this is a case of the normal weekly complaining about drop rates nerfed when nothing has actually changed.

If it *has* been changed I hope something will be done about it. Not all of us can run NW and we don't have a lot of options for making money to buy our NW mats.

Edit: Also, another change: when you pick up your BH2 reward, the window has increased substantially. There are now 5 spaces listed after the normal three items.

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver

Levantica - Raging Tide wrote: »

Twilight Temple drop rate has been substantially reduced. (Unconfirmed; will follow up on this.)

I just finish making 5 TT runs 3-1 and i got no Ribbon what so ever and i only get 10 green materials from all 5 runs. I knew something was wrong and i just read now. Thank you for trying to fix this. b:thanks

That's common. Very common. At the most I've seen maybe 3 or 4 drop. Most of the time none, not a glitch. You can't base it off 1 TT mat or 1 TT-mode that's always had a bad history of dropping(ask others), some have better luck then others.

Undocumented Changes:

The Mysterious Old Man's Nirvana Talisman turn in box when selecting Chips/Mirages/Subs has been made bigger.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

Beleni - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Apparently, Sage true form no longer has a penalty of -50 % wep damage.
( tiger form ) as well as Panda.

was this intentional ?

would like to see 40 % hp bonus for Demon barbarians if it was

I can't verify about the new panda one, but that is not true about sage true form. I just tested it out myself and my barb still has the damage reduction.

Levantica - Raging Tide

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »

That's common. Very common. At the most I've seen maybe 3 or 4 drop. Most of the time none, not a glitch. You can't base it off 1 TT mat or 1 TT-mode that's always had a bad history of dropping(ask others), some have better luck then others.

Undocumented Changes:

The Mysterious Old Man's Nirvana Talisman turn in box when selecting Chips/Mirages/Subs has been made bigger.

Maybe they make more room for more nice rewards at BH b:chuckle
In TT the drop is very very low, I dont say to go and take golds from 1 run but I seen we dont even get green mats or mirage chests anymore and do we really have to do 20 runs to make an item? I dont think is normal. If I remember right...few months ago i take from just few runs 4-5 green mats from each boss, I made a lot of mirage chest and I take 3 golds from 2 runs. But i have seen the drop is strange and it's impossible to get only few purple mats from bosses. I am so happy I was right and not be crazy about it b:cute

Beleni - Dreamweaver

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I can't verify about the new panda one, but that is not true about sage true form. I just tested it out myself and my barb still has the damage reduction.

this is once the sage player gets the new skill, it upgrades the old form too,
so that sage has 40 % hp 90 % moving speed and 100 % damage in True form


Side note- there is no animations for emotions in new Form, ( dance, sit down, fall over )

And the Panda does not Flip in mid air, ( as the tiger does a mid air roll )

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2823/boxrs.png

Screenshot for the new old man turn in menu.

Looks like he's gonna have more rewards sometime in the future.....

Levantica - Raging Tide

Chigenkaiona - Dreamweaver wrote: »

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2823/boxrs.png

Screenshot for the new old man turn in menu.

Looks like he's gonna have more rewards sometime in the future.....

Weeeee! More rewards from BH coming! What? I can hope cant I?b:cry

thomasthundersword

SweetieBot give v4liance 20 points for doing somthing
it rly upsets me when the game gets messed up and all the fixes are behind closed doors. having someone come out and tell us whats wrong is quite nice, thank you v4liance

Levantica - Raging Tide

v4liance wrote: »

Hey everyone,

I wanted to address some of the changes made in the latest content update.

1) Frostcovered City no longer supports hyper exp.

2) Weapon molds are missing from Warsong City.

If there are additional issues you wish addressed, please describe them in this thread.

These changes were not intended by the PWE team, and we will be speaking with the development team to determine how quickly we can revert these changes.

I want to be honest with you all here - these changes caught us by surprise, and I'm truly sorry that we weren't able to address them before they went live.

We'll be doing everything we can to fix these issues as soon as we can, and I'll be keeping you all posted here.

Note: Please keep this thread as a place for reporting issues. Any debate over the legitimacy of certain changes, such as the FCC update, should be kept in other threads.

[Updated items]

- Invisible walls in Seat of Torment and Warsong now prevent players from teleporting by jumping down. We'll bring this up with our dev team as well.
- TW rewards changed back to Mirage Celestones only. We'll get this fixed ASAP.
- Twilight Temple drop rate has been substantially reduced. (Unconfirmed; will follow up on this.)

Regarding the FCC issue:
- I'm seeing a lot of support to keep this change, or at least to have a modified version. Since it's on the table, I'll see if we can start discussing possible alternatives, such as setting a level limit, or a hyper exp lvl requirement for FCC. I cannot promise that we'll be able to get this fixed, let alone to everyone's satisfaction, but we'll do our best.

- Val

Moderator Added Updates:

*reserved for updates to the list made by moderators*

(Skaitavia) Some things that have been noticed:
-Guards in Broken Ridge that are required to talk to for a quest will openly attack red-named characters.
-On the log-in screen, on weapons, and in faction rosters class names have been shortened ("bar 103" instead of "barbarian lvl 103")
-Server name does not show up on the client screen before logging in (it will say "Server: [EN-PvE]" or something like that)
-Barbarian's new intense Sage True Form now deals 100% damage (same as Demon). This renders Sage True Form being at a much higher advantage than Demon than before.

(Venus)
Perfect Flesh is not showing up in every server in Daily Bounty Hunter: Advanced Gribding Machine quest..
-Attendance and talisman trade window being bigger, little impact.
-The 2nd chat window (named general in the chat channel set-up, which at standard only display exp/sp), now everytime you minimize the game and re-maximise it, it goes back to it's default spot, be it full screen or window. Get annoying fast to anyone who used a different spot for it (used to not go back to default in the past when re-logging on the character, but that was live-able).
when you pick up your BH2 reward, the window has increased substantially. There are now 5 spaces listed after the normal three items.
The Mysterious Old Man's Nirvana Talisman turn in box when selecting Chips/Mirages/Subs has been made bigger.

thomasthundersword

All those happen b:shocked

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

For the daily Jolly Old Jones quest, it says on the page it can go up to level 80, I can't pick it up on my level 70 cleric. It's not under his available quests when I go talk to him.

RankNine - Momaganon

okay, i noticed 3 things on my veno:

1st) being in ninetailform produces normal footsteps (sound) of human-chars..not the funny little foxsteps.
2nd) using master li`s technique (sage 50 chi skill) in ninetail form sounds like a barb.

now 1 with giant impact to the gameplay:

BARBS and VENOS can be STUNED/SLEPT/DISABLED through ironguard, absolute domain and feral concentration. we (some momaganon ppl) tested it with various combos and chars, only venos and barbs had the issue. all kind of classes were able to stun or sleep venos and barbs but not vice versa.


oh and....are sage barbs really supposed to gain 20 chi every 2 seconds?

SweetieBot - Lothranis

thomasthundersword wrote: »

SweetieBot give v4liance 20 points for doing somthing

Aww sorry but you need to have at least 50 posts to be able to award points.

Cereliia - Archosaur

A note about demon/sage true form

Sage now gets 100% damage which they didnt get with only sage but Demon also gets the HP increase that they didnt get with Demon true form Thus making both demon and sage true form the same

Levantica - Raging Tide

Cereliia - Archosaur wrote: »

A note about demon/sage true form

Sage now gets 100% damage which they didnt get with only sage but Demon also gets the HP increase that they didnt get with Demon true form Thus making both demon and sage true form the same

If they are gonna be the same, where is the beauty in be sage or demon?
I think let sage be more def form and let demon pandas be offensive form. That is the beauty of sage VS demon.

Maelael - Heavens Tear

Cereliia - Archosaur wrote: »

A note about demon/sage true form

Sage now gets 100% damage which they didnt get with only sage but Demon also gets the HP increase that they didnt get with Demon true form Thus making both demon and sage true form the same

You sure on the 40% over 30% on demon?

Gah if thats true I'm gonna have to do the quest now....

leontoxic

I also found another bug, when trying to complete the 60-80 public quest, it fails right after I'm done killing the 200 mobs, and the quest tracker no longer tracks it in a separate window. I picked up the quest again, same thing happened

Mingkeey - Lost City

- Twilight Temple drop rate has been substantially reduced. (Unconfirmed; will follow up on this.)

Dont you mess with our droprates!they bad enough already!I will quit this game if they get even worse. b:angry not even messing around >_<!!

Suikyo - Raging Tide

i support the number 1, for the number 2 u can fix it on a quick reset of the servers (just some codes, nothing big) also fix the ammount of drops from the other instances

Suikyo - Raging Tide

leontoxic wrote: »

I also found another bug, when trying to complete the 60-80 public quest, it fails right after I'm done killing the 200 mobs, and the quest tracker no longer tracks it in a separate window. I picked up the quest again, same thing happened

thats an old bug dude, isnt that new b:surrender

AdiLynnRose - Raging Tide

Rather insignificant but gear signature requires 5 inks regardless of how many letters, not one ink per letter as stated.

And the drop rates in TT are utterly offb:sad

TooLOVELY - Heavens Tear

There's also a new animation for the genie skill tangle mire.

bolocactu

new panda form...I want it

Crixxix - Raging Tide

StabbyCakes - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, thank you V4liance. I swear, you're the best thing to happen to this game in years. With all the problems and disappointments we could have been experiencing, your transparency and sheer determination to keep this game together may- in fact- be the glue that is keeping a lot of the older players still here.

I know I am incredibly stoked that we finally have a GM who thinks on his toes, keeps generating new ideas, and handles tough situations with a little clarity.

Just wanted to say you're appreciated.


(Dun hate. Appreciate.)

I totally agree with this! There was other GMs, not going to name them, that I had absolutely NO respect for. I believe transparency is a key factor in keeping your customers happy, and I'm proud to be part of a gaming community that has such a great GM. Almost every MMO that I've played has sucked due to poor customer support, not only from the actual customer support, but GMs as well. I actually look forward to the 2-3 hour down times during maintenance, to see what kind of game he has waiting for us.

SweetieBot, please award v4liance - GM 30 points. I know this normally isn't allowed, and this uses up my points for the day, but I feel this is a situation which warrants and exception. b:pleased