Epic/fail/weird squadplays collection!

Alenta - Lost City · January 2013

Today, I was in a BH WS squad on my veno from Heaven's Tear server. Keep in mind that I haven't done BH WS on HT in a while so probably the way of doing things on HT is different than Lost City. In LC we usually lure the runners first and then the barb or magic DD would AOE the rest of the group. For one group, I lured one of the runners with a genie instead of pet to make it faster, while someone else lured the other runner. Then someone in the group accidentally aggroes the rest of the group causing the cleric to die, resulting in squad wipe.

Immediately, the immature mystic blames me for that fail lure I didn't even cause and calls me a "fail veno", saying stuff like "You're not supposed to lure with a pet. I've never seen a veno lure with a pet" and "You have to AOE runners too." The last comment I can understand, but I didn't know that was the preferred method of luring because I WASN'T TOLD ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE SQUAD WIPE. Maybe because there was nothing wrong with my luring in the first place and the squad wipe wasn't my fault? Funny how when the mystic decides to lure he ends up dying to the mobs...gee, I wonder why. maybe because the runners sealed him before him could make it to BB? And this is why I prefer to lure the runners first. So who exactly is the fail one here?

So I would like to point out that just because a player doesn't do something in a way that you're used to please explain to them the way you prefer to do things instead of spouting out immature comments or calling them fail. A player is not fail and they are not wrong if they prefer to do things differently.

/rant

Annalyse - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Alenta - Lost City wrote: »

So I would like to point out that just because a player doesn't do something in a way that you're used to please explain to them the way you prefer to do things instead of spouting out immature comments or calling them fail. A player is not fail and they are not wrong if they prefer to do things differently.

/rant

I do agree with that statement.

It actually varies in HT in regards to Metal mobs. Some squads prefer to pull the runners first, and some prefer to aoe. In the aoe case, veno works best because noxious has a big enough range to hit both runners from a safe distance, and with summer sprint you don't even have to holy path back to BB. In general a caster works best for aoe since they can take the damage a little easier. More and more now however, I see barbs pull (invoke, run in, wait til seal wears off and roar), but I still prefer a veno pull hands down because I have experienced a lot of barbs running back with mobs unaggroed.

When I'm on my cleric I always ask before setting up BB if they are aoeing or pulling the runners first. I hate when clerics just pop up BB without asking, and then someone genie pulls a runner into BB and drops it immediately (often bringing all its friends and causing a wipe).

A good rule of thumb on this server is just to ask ahead of time. Often you will find that half the squad wants to pull and half wants to aoe, so asking makes everybody choose one method. xD

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Alenta - Lost City wrote: »

I haven't done BH WS on HT in a while so probably the way of doing things on HT is different than Lost City.

On HT is BB up, aoe, whoever gets aggro tanks.

Ridelia - Momaganon · January 2013

Yesterday it was my very 1st time I ever tanked a real BH using melee class (usually I play arcane classes). My newbie lvl 82 seeker (lvled up by lucids, reflection, lucids, reflection, a fc, lucids, reflection... xD Geared with some lvl 0-70 golds and 1 piece of TT80, not refined) + a few lvl60-69 players (barb, 2 sins, cler). BH51. Because of my lvl I became a tank and the way leader - fortunatelly I did know the way and what the bosses do.

It all went suprisingly good. No deaths, not much of my charm ticks (thanks to BP and HP food), of course sins were getting some of the aggro and I was afraid of them (on my main - mystic - I would already heal them xD) but they survived somehow thanks to killing the mobs fast enough. Everyone was doing great job - except the cler. It was so funny to watch how the cler use team buff (1hour buffs) combo every 2 mins altrough noone of us lost the buffs yet. How he use Chromatic Beam on 1st boss that don't aoe and I am the only one that need heal. How he use Stream of Rejuvenation (2,5sec casting!) on team members one by one after 2nd boss aoe (leaving me without any heal). How he heals me with Wellspring Surge when he finally decides to heal me...
We come to Wywern, knowing random skills of thic cler I tell him "this boss I need IH and purify", he wont understand, he is using german client, skill probably other names. Someone translates names of the skills to him - but he still dont get it. He casts team buffs (1h) though we got the buffs 2 mins before. "Not this one"-we say, he casts single buffs on me "Not this one", he finally cast purify "Yes, this one". Now we need to show him which one is IH too, after using a few more random skills he finally use 1 IH, "This one is good, put it on me 3 times in row and we start, it stacks", he ... use team buff. b:shutup , "C'mon, IH is the most usefull cler skill, you have to learn how to use it" .. he continues with using random skills. "Well, never mind, we will try to do it the way it is". I rush to boss, of couse it debuffs me, only dependable heal I am getting is BP buff since the cler continues to use random skills on the team. Lucky I am high lvl, in BH69 with such cler I would be dead and decomposing. After using a few HP food and 3 charm ticks boss is killed. Then we decide to kill additional boss for some of the team members, cler leaves on the way. We dont care. Last boss killed without any problem.

Honestly, I know some german client clers and they do good... but this one was a total fail xD.

Xainou - Sanctuary · January 2013

Ridelia - Momaganon wrote: »

Honestly, I know some german client clers and they do good... but this one was a total fail xD.

I think that's less of a language problem but a problem of "I don't read my skills and give a damn" XD I know some people playing on the German client too and they do well. lol

Also, "Care for your own business." Nope I won't if you fail defending that damn earth pavillion for the third time because you keep dcing after you fail to fix your computer for 3+ month already.

akosireann · January 2013

Just went in my nastiest bh snake a few days ago.

We has 2 Hook sins, a morai 101 bm, me as veno, and a friend dualing his cleric and barb.

Barb and cleric dc'ed before we pulled 2nd set of mobs. I was logging badly at that time as well. Pathetically I have to ask my remaining 3 squadmates if they can lure.

The sin and bm has no zeal, The other sin's zeal is dead.

I had to resort to pet tame luring mobs and constant reminder to the others not to go leeroy.

Thankfully though barb and cleric relogged a few minutes after we reached snake.

I think that took an awful chunk on my sanity on that run b:surrender

Walpurga - Dreamweaver · January 2013

Ran a BH39 on my BM, had 87 veno helping. Ran into farren + group, stun + HF, veno novas, psy takes aggro, farren runs into all the level 50 AAs and LAs, instant wipe, veno dies too, my BM holds farren with charm + MSS atk reduction until everyone but one got rezzed and came back

\o/

Liveena - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Helping a random BH39 squad with a lvl 51 cleric (1st cleric), 94 barb, 40ish sin, 70ish cleric 2nd cleric, I'm using 97 BM.

Went to farren smoothly, I told cleric and sin to stay away from farren aoe as me and barb rush to farren, I sparked, hf then aoe, somehow cleric is on follow mode on barb and dies instantly from farren aoe.

2nd cleric is apparently afk, after 5 min asking him to rev, 1st cleric had to rev and start running from entrance while I tank farren with no charm, barb moves away from farren.

1st cleric arrives and dies again from farren aoe b:shocked
Tanked farren again while 1st cleric run from entrance again, I can't lure farren to entrance since sin is afk. 1st cleric arrived and I killed farren.

Since sin is afk, I decide to lure calcid to farren room, went smoothly.
As I prepared to lure trioc, 1st cleric had to go, I ask squad who need trioc as sin and 2nd cleric comes back, sin doesn't need trioc and leaves.

2nd cleric said he need trioc b:shocked so we went kill trioc while barb afk.

b:surrender

Annalyse - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Liveena - Heavens Tear wrote: »

2nd cleric said he need trioc

Why would a level 70 cleric need Trioc? o.O

Walpurga - Dreamweaver · January 2013

On the subject of 39....

ran it at level with veno today.

Walker tanked farren with a mystic helping

Cleared all mobs by pulling + seeker tanking

No barb no BM needed

Seeker tanked hercules trioc at ranged (the eldergoth sharpshooter was doing it until people took aggro)

massive fun. Talked to sin about doing a sin pull for the mobs but, well, he was probably gonna die by ranged attacks

akosireann · January 2013

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Why would a level 70 cleric need Trioc? o.O

it could be the 70 cleric powerleveled too fast and had a leftover bh 39.

Jaabg - Sanctuary · January 2013

akosireann wrote: »

it could be the 70 cleric powerleveled too fast and had a leftover bh 39.

I have purple divine in bh 69, 89 for lvl 100+.

Castgurl - Raging Tide · January 2013

Hmmmm...trying to think here....ahhh I think I got one.

Was on my barb, doing FC. I had teles, crabs the works so I was working towards doing more than one run. I start shouting away, someone pm's asking if I wanted to join their squad, said yes and BOom squad. o.o Anyway, they had 2 archers....I LOVE archers....just NOT those that don't know wtfh they are doing. I shout again for healer. This lv.79 cleric spams me asking to join and linking his [insert non-important TTblahaha **** gear here] and [reTUUURRRRD weapon] to me. Wall of texts later I invited him to squad. Then found a fishie and off we go...

The cleric heals me, so I assume he has chi eh? Nope...I pull and die because he tells me AFTERWARDS (like after I invoke...) That he doesn't have chi....you could've said something! (And the fail archers just stood there and watch me die, then blame ME for not "pushing back mobs" (the &#%$...) Right...we go to do second pull...you know the bishop with foxies in there? The sin aggros them and all die, me being last to fall. Cleric starts pm'n saying "why u know aggo mobs?"
We go again. I small pull the mobs, and the SAME thing happens. Archers don't BOA and again, I'm the last to fall. The cleric starts spaming me after I left. (3 Fails in a short amount of time? Have fun...) About how I don't know how to aggro (I do my job #$$% annnd you guys can't do yours? LOL) and other meirda...yeah, that was an awwwwesome morning for me. -.-

Liveena - Heavens Tear · January 2013

Had a memorable FB99 run for my BM in abba.

We had a nice squad, seeker, three sins, a cleric and my BM. Went through all FB99 bosses without a problem (except when cleric dced in dracoboa and all sin dies).

Interesting happen when we goes to bh boss dryad.

First attempt:
Seeker pulls dryad while cleric started BB, sins sparked and I throw HF, however dryad moved away evading most of the damage, sins keep aps-ing when dryad went back to full health, sins are killed one by one.After seeker got killed I run away luring it so cleric can rezz other, I got killed in the pool and boss reset.

Second attempt:
Sins and me rush and sparked, HF and aps him, one of the sin comes too late (was afk), when he sparked and aps, boss was buffed and got his health back and proceed to kill the sins and me, seeker then run to pool. At this time, cleric and one of the sin got to go, and replaced by the seeker sin alt and another cleric.

Third attempt:
Again we sparked and I HF, sins use chill of the deep while seeker and me spam skills, almost finished when boss aoe kills most of us. Cleric run to pool and reset the boss.

Fourth attempt:
This time seeker bring his barb for last attempt. We sparked and I HF + barb devour, boss was killed under 10 second. b:laugh

Liam_ - Sanctuary · January 2013

Had a nice abba run today. Joined a random squad, dd was 2 sins, a bm and a veno. I automatically get put as tank which is fair enough. No problems clearing the instance. Seems fairly obvious blowing up the boss is the best thing here, decide with the other bm that he HF's first and in I go, spark, genie debuff and whack.

....20 seconds later I realize I'm alone. As soon as I ran the cleric had set up BB more than halfway back across the room and the entire squad, including a +12 sin, are standing like lemons waiting for me to drag the boss all the way over. Then they proceed to blame me because the +12 sin "could have managed it", even if I wasted time dragging the boss all the way over. And I didn't "communicate" every detail. What really baffled me here is that not one person in the squad took the common sense approach of running in to get an immediate start. Fair enough on the communication part, though not only my fault there. Reset it for them, quit and left them to it.

Is there something I'm missing here...if it's me I'll accept it. Why does the aba boss have to be dragged across the room every time? b:surrender

shashahah · January 2013

several short things to b metioned here:

-back in the day when every1 was low lv still (as in, ~80), fb69: when cleric was asked why he didnt purify he said "i dont have that skill, i dont like its icon."

-when nirvana just got released and there were no sins yet, only a few 5.0 apsers, nirv run:
veno just atked and didnt debuff at all
when asked why not she was like "i dont have foxform (and related skills) because i dont like to be a stinky fox. and i prefer to look at my fashion in the first place anyway."
(after this aps bm said "ok i dont like aps gear either, its doesnt look good on me", equipped tank gear and hit boss with 0.8 with axes...run took ~1.5h xD)

-fcc with ~lv90 players, some cleric/veno charger couple in squad
cleric didnt heal, in general didnt do much at all, veno didnt debuff etc
we tried to explain to them how important debuffs were for squad etc, they said "ok". went afk. came back and completely ignored squad, just kept going with dd and w/e, and then raged about how fail WE were cos debuffs wouldnt help anything at all

-warsong, some seeker and a cleric who got all gear saying "crafted by [seeker name]"
upon being asked whether it was his alt he was like "no"
however, from the beginning on it was pretty clear it WAS his alt indeed, seeing as the cleric didnt respond to any of the squad members' whispers, only used skills when the seeker didnt, etc
(must b so hard to just say "ye its my alt" or w/e instead of lying and messing up the whole run by failing so much..)

-warsong, random squad
barb claiming wood pav
after 10mins he suddenly was like "oh btw i havent done this yet. this is not gonna work. (his pav score: 0..incarnation died a few secs later)

-warsong: in general, most sins: +10 and higher weap, +4 and below gear, dding anything moving around (esp vile cannonfist orchlord, when he got buffs on), dying oneshot even in bb and then qqing bout dying..

oh and last but not least, that cleric who charged +12 r9r2 (weap) and r9 gear when nw was not yet released and claimed he had farmed it
was in aeu with him once on cleric (even tho r9, he barely got 5k hp, and an incredible 1k phys def FULL BUFFED (and prolly to mention, full atk lv sharded)...xD)
he never healed ("im dd, no cleric" (go make a wizard ffs -.-")), and when he randomly hit bosses b4 any1 else did and got aggro, he couldnt even keep himself alive
and then "screamed" at me "omg HEAL"
i just said "ur cleric, do it urself", whereof i got whispers from all squad members saying "good job, show it to him! xD" and stuff like that

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear · January 2013

shashahah wrote: »

was in aeu with him once on cleric (even tho r9, he barely got 5k hp, and an incredible 1k phys def FULL BUFFED (and prolly to mention, full atk lv sharded)...xD)

Assuming no hat/cape/neck/rings... the base r9 robe armor (chest/leg/shoe/bracer/belt) gives 2k passive p.def. Nice negative buffs you got there.

Allisandre - Sanctuary · January 2013

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Assuming no hat/cape/neck/rings... the base r9 robe armor (chest/leg/shoe/bracer/belt) gives 2k passive p.def. Nice negative buffs you got there.

LOL I know. 5k hp would be close to right for a pure build getting the hp from refines. Then you shard to make up for the other defenses. Fully buffed that cleric very likely had closer to 5k pdef as well.

Jaabg - Sanctuary · January 2013

Liam_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Is there something I'm missing here...if it's me I'll accept it. Why does the aba boss have to be dragged across the room every time? b:surrender

There are two kinds of squads it seems. One type of squad always has a tank that pulls the boss back and can tank it. Vast majority of the people expect this squad.

Type 2, the one i run. Clericless most of the time, we do not drag the boss, everyone rushes in, clerics are in metal mage mode, tempest, wizzy do their stuff, sins, bm do their thing. Everyone goes home happy.

Dragging = 3~8 seconds of wasted time that could be spent on dd. I always rush in, unless we have a barb.

My way of asking, when i enter the instance, i ask, are we going to aps the boss or tank it? If they say aps, i tell them clearly. Everyone rushes in, veno uses amp, sin sub sea, one bm hf, 2nd gs, and if there is a barb, use arma, cleric will tempest, other classes choose their skill. We all spark at the same time and kill the boss by rushing in. If anyone disagrees, usually the cleric, i tell them to bb where the boss and not bb where they please. Works out mostly. I run with friends most of the time.

Liam_ - Sanctuary · January 2013

Jaabg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Works out mostly. I run with friends most of the time.

Guess the problem is random wc squads. I know if I ran with faction I'd have no problem discussing tactics. The next aba squad I ran that day, I tried being more clear and suggested blowing up the boss with an explanation, but was completely ignored and instead a 97 barb was brought in to drag it across the room again. We had two sins, a good psy, cleric and me and it should have been a cinch. Instead it was dragged, no debuffs but mine, and both sins sparked after HF expired entirely and were so late they were still in spark when the red buff appeared.

Though I'm probably being too fussy over it since we did get the boss done in the end.

Colum - Raging Tide · January 2013

I was in BH 51 with my lvl 63 BM (which is now lvl 67). We had along a lvl 95 barb who said he can solo it for us and we had also a wizard I think + another BM. Whenever this barb ran at mob groups he went in normal form and usually did not AoE the group. I noticed this but said nothing; I did my work, stunned mobs, AOEd and tanked the mobs barb wasnt attacking. I asked him if he was a sage barb, answer was yes.

While cleaning to fushma this barb asks if I could get a cleric or sin so he does not have to eat crab meat. I said I could try but got a lvl 83 sin, the barb refused to wait at that point, engaged fushma and _did not use crabs_. He was in normal form and my BM took aggro couple times with fists ffor a short period until I stopped attacking. We also had time to HF like 4 times before the boss was dead and in the end barb died, blamed us and said the sin can solo the instance. He left, I invited my barb and soloed it to end. -__-

Korpinsulka - Raging Tide · February 2013

Was in 51 with my psy and there was two barbs both "tanking" in human form... guess who had the aggro all the time when cleaning mobs.

Liveena - Heavens Tear · February 2013

Lunar run on my BM with a barb, sin, psy, cleric and mystic.
First valley, barb run and pull mob until the end of valley where he roars, I stunned and cleric set up BB. Psy, and mystic arrived, then mystic use her knock back seal aoe, making the entire mob scatters. Sin dies since he steal agro and can not regain hp fast enough due to mobs got knock backed. Psy aoe only hits one mobs, and my HF only hit 1-2 mobs.

Everyone screams to mystic not to use her aoe knock back skills.

Second valley, again barb pull and cleric set up BB, all went fine until mystic use her knockback aoe again b:surrender.

Again we remind her not to use that skill, and she replied "this is mystic only AoE, and it seals mobs".
b:surrender

Next, TT1-1 run with random squad, I'm using cleric

Squad doesn't speak at all at squad chat, once squad leader opens, they all rushed and randomly killing mobs (including the skeletons on the lower hall), I was frantically healing them and told them to slow down.

This is their answer: "faster, hyper is on" b:shocked

Jaabg - Sanctuary · February 2013

Liveena - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Again we remind her not to use that skill, and she replied "this is mystic only AoE, and it seals mobs".

Some mystics get offended when you tell them that b:shutup. I prefer not to squad with such mystics, their summons do awesome aoe damage to.

Liveena - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Next, TT1-1 run with random squad, I'm using cleric

Squad doesn't speak at all at squad chat, once squad leader opens, they all rushed and randomly killing mobs (including the skeletons on the lower hall), I was frantically healing them and told them to slow down.

This is their answer: "faster, hyper is on" b:shocked

A young cleric i see, not knowing everyone hypers tt now b:cute. Wait until someone asks you to hyper the delta bosses b:laugh. I asked once b:surrender

Liam_ - Sanctuary · February 2013

Had a nice abba recently for a change. No sins whatsoever. Archer, psy, 2 veno's, barb, me. Wasn't a pure r9 squad either by any means. Heck, I didn't even hf either, archer wanted to BV. Boss went down well before the buff. Just good coordination and proper spark-debuff-skill use all round.

Made me smile watching all the "forming aps clericless squad for abba" world chats all that day.

Walpurga - Dreamweaver · February 2013

FC run, had a barb; wasn't that great.

Cleric's hubby comes--is a barb

Sin leaves for NW, WC for a DD, another barb comes

first barb leaves, ask for DD< another barb

WC for another spot, Seeker

squad: archer cleric barb barb barb seeker

meanwhile 4 squads in WC asking for barb/seeker

b:thanks

Colum - Raging Tide · March 2013

How sounds a BH 51 run where lvl 60 BM is tanking with white gear and complains about charm ****..

VKnightV - Lost City · March 2013

Walpurga - Dreamweaver wrote: »

FC run, had a barb; wasn't that great.

Cleric's hubby comes--is a barb

Sin leaves for NW, WC for a DD, another barb comes

first barb leaves, ask for DD< another barb

WC for another spot, Seeker

squad: archer cleric barb barb barb seeker

meanwhile 4 squads in WC asking for barb/seeker

b:thanks

i hade a 5 barb party and a random in fcc long time ago.

those where the days and sure lots of funs.

you wont see so many barb full partys like that.

Kittysama - Raging Tide_1432680721 · March 2013

Today in FC with BM this time, otherwise pretty ok FC80-90 squad though half had never been in FC with their class before. We had my BM, 2 seekers, sin, cleric and another BM. Cleric and higher lvl seeker didn't know FC well yet and said that, so we knew they're still learning. We wasn't too sure of our 80 sin, but he proved to be a good sin, tanking all bosses. The other BM joined us from 3rd boss.

The problem was...lower-lvl 80 seeker(I'm not telling his name here) When I tried to tell him what he should do, got shouted back that I shouldn't give him orders as he dislikes that a lot. Well, how I should told him what to do then?(or should I have just stayed quiet and watch him harm the squad...) Anyway, when it came time for first boss battle, I noticed him dying to every other ring summoned. I thought " well, maybe he just has a bad day or lag".
When he challenged me to a couple duels at the left bottom corner, I beat him bad though I was just 3 lvls higher lacking sparks(he had chi full). He tried sparking, but I just stunned him when it wasn't on cooldown and whack him with fists. He swore he'd beat me later that FC(and never actually challenged me to duel anymore).b:chuckle
When we cleared hall when waiting for 2nd boss, he got himself killed, claiming that bishies don't clearly like vortex(claiming he knew all FC better than me, who has 10 lvls higher seek, he should have known better then). I told him to glitch boss as he had worst DPS in the squad excluding cleric that should have RB'd instead of glitching as we had no demonsparkers yet. Cleric had to glitch.
When the time to kill the boss came, he just autoattacked, if I saw right. Both seekers had different stances, neither activating them, even when I said they should do that. The higher seeker learnt from that and triggered Soulsever for the rest of the fight, the lower...didn't. Just put on NSW like I had told him and continue autoattacking.b:surrender

TIme for sin/rock pull to 3rd boss. This newbie seeker said he had done that a lot before, but didn't move an inch. Sin started pull and I, sin and higher seeker got to boss room. The lower one grabbed the mobs after they had resetted and pulled them to left upper corner and vortexed them down there. When we told him not to do when the mobs had just resetted, he answered us "They will die anyway and if cleric died, how was we supposed to get her back to boss without squadwipe. With that squad wipe was obvious if cleric died. I told everyone except tanking sin to concentrate on bishies when they spawned and ended up killing them myself, sparking all the time to get them done in time. I got shouted for that as they said I should have HF'd. Yush, that would have brought boss down 15 secs faster, assuming we would have survived 5 bishops at once and still get boss killed. I was the only one to hit bishops anyway.b:bye

When remains of the full pull happened(4 groups left of the about 10 of first half), other BM pulled it. We HF'd after each other and stunned at our turns while seekers vortexes. Cleric had run too fast and got mobs on her before pull was complete as he tried to BB at last group before puller was there. Mobs got down quick and then waiting for headwings.

No problems anymore before the XP room pull. Seeker went down even when we kept mobs stunned(higher-lvl seeker had swapped to psy for last room) and BB was already waiting behind him. Luckily we got them down at the cost of a seeker life. After the pull was done, I told the seeker to take a look at how to look stances and stuff. Local grocery shop was about to be closed soon so I left squad and went to buy popcorn so I could enjoy the blue spam telling I'm horrible bytch, total noob, 100% fail and not know anything about the game. When back home, popped the corns and enjoyed reading all that bluespam from that seekb:victory

Sarrafeline - Sanctuary · March 2013

I did a BH metal in a squad that consisted of my BM, a barb, and 4 clerics.

It took a while, but nobody died.

Seeing Tempest cast 3 times simotaneously is ****ing epic, it's like the sky just opened up and god has a raging boner he jsut can't do anything about.

We did fire as well, which was rather quick and also no deaths.

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