New PW Expansion (PWCN: Rise of Dynasty)

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

I noticed PWDB has been updated and now has stuff from the pwcn expansion:

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/36673

It makes looking up things easier but it's still hard to tell how easy it is to gather those mats.

_Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City

Dang looks like warsoul is going to be commonplace! haha but really, I would LOVE to switch out my ugly r8 glaive for a Mystocaster b:dirty

Regenbogen - Lost City

_Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City wrote: »

Dang looks like warsoul is going to be commonplace! haha but really, I would LOVE to switch out my ugly r8 glaive for a Mystocaster b:dirty

recast it or g16 nv b:shutup

DeffyNature - Archosaur

With the risk of sounding annoying, I'm still hoping for news on the 2 new veno pets b:surrender .

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

rr8/r9/nirv g16 > warsoul

b:avoid

EDIT: btw, that link showing the items needed to make those warsouls looks like a reforge option to me. But, as I can't read Chinese it's just a guess. So they would still need the original 100 pieces of each fragment to make still, and it's just a new option to reforge them after said first step...Maybe..

monkydluffy

if im not bad the NEW warsoul weaps are still hard to get but wtf is that o.O new warsoul weaps has 115 attack leves now or im blind? b:shocked


http://translate.google.com.mx/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pwdatabase.com%2Fcn%2Fitems%2F36526&act=url

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

monkydluffy wrote: »

if im not bad the NEW warsoul weaps are still hard to get but wtf is that o.O new warsoul weaps has 115 attack leves now or im blind? b:shocked


http://translate.google.com.mx/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pwdatabase.com%2Fcn%2Fitems%2F36526&act=url

It might be a chance thing, just like how recasting other weapons and gears is.

Also i just saw at the bottom, does it have a 50mil crafting fee? O.o

Fail_BM - Raging Tide

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver wrote: »

It might be a chance thing, just like how recasting other weapons and gears is.

Also i just saw at the bottom, does it have a 50mil crafting fee? O.o

No, it's not recasting. You get at between 55 and 65 attack lvls everytime you craft/reforge one. Just like our actual R9s3: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34791 .

As you can see warsoul will be VERY OP now.

DeffyNature - Archosaur wrote: »

With the risk of sounding annoying, I'm still hoping for news on the 2 new veno pets b:surrender .

I am also waiting for news about veno's petsb:surrender

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

Fail_BM - Raging Tide wrote: »

No, it's not recasting. You get at between 55 and 65 attack lvls everytime you craft/reforge one. Just like our actual R9s3: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34791 .

Oh ok, I'm not very familiar with all the R9 reforging stats and how they work since I don't have any/don't have close friends that have it that I could ask to explain it.

It still confuses me lol.
Though they will get an upgrade, I personally still don't think the price on warsouls will be worth the hassle. Getting the first stage alone is painful and pricey enough, well beyond the price of R9. Can't imagine how much of a coin dent a reforge would make. x.x (especially since there's a huge fee to reforge one now)

Smexy though.

monkydluffy

atention pwi bms theres a awesome news for all this attack rate lovers, 1 of the new 9 recast sets has interval on plate just for bms not on sins barb or archers b:victory

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/35751

also im still shocked i saw that mostly all magic warsoul weaps has

50-65 attack lvl + 2 extra (yeah i cant believe it) stats of 50 attack lvls thats equal to


195 attack lvl just for the weap plus Jones Blessing b:shocked maybe something its wrong b:sad

psy Warsoul weap

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/36518 b:angry

Fail_BM - Raging Tide

monkydluffy wrote: »

atention pwi bms theres a awesome news for all this attack rate lovers, 1 of the new 9 recast sets has interval on plate just for bms not on sins barb or archers b:victory

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/35751

also im still shocked i saw that mostly all magic warsoul weaps has

50-65 attack lvl + 2 extra (yeah i cant believe it) stats of 50 attack lvls thats equal to


195 attack lvl just for the weap plus Jones Blessing b:shocked maybe something its wrong b:sad

psy Warsoul weap

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/36518 b:angry

I was looking at the same thing, mystics are also getting this monstrous attack lvl bonus on their warsoul wand. I just hope it's just a typo, this new R9s3 nor our actual R9s3 can't handle over 200 attack lvls.

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

Who knows, at the insane amount of money that is needed to make them in the first place, it may not be a typo. Considering the first stage warsoul weapon alone costs more than full R9.
And who knows how difficult/expensive it is to get all those new mats.

Bubbles - Morai

It's very unlikely that it's a typo.

If it's inaccurate in any way, it's a typo made by wanmei, not by pwdatabase (and there have been few cases where this has happened...).

Pw database works in such a way in that it sifts through all the files for pw and extracts information into a readable format.

Pw database isn't official, but it's way too complex for a fan to be doing it by hand. There is way too much **** in there, especially stuff that is never used in game. There is no way any person could have put in that information based on observations in game.

Whoever did the website is one hell of an unofficial developer because they figured out the format of pw's files long before private servers did. They probably know it better than the (new) official devs.

monkydluffy

Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »

It's very unlikely that it's a typo.

If it's inaccurate in any way, it's a typo made by wanmei, not by pwdatabase (and there have been few cases where this has happened...).

Pw database works in such a way in that it sifts through all the files for pw and extracts information into a readable format.

Pw database isn't official, but it's way too complex for a fan to be doing it by hand. There is way too much **** in there, especially stuff that is never used in game. There is no way any person could have put in that information based on observations in game.

Whoever did the website is one hell of an unofficial developer because they figured out the format of pw's files long before private servers did. They probably know it better than the (new) official devs.

well, this site was right the last time before the g16 vana weapons all was good also a good point for this is "Ultimates Weapons" needs to be the best weapon on the game like the original idea, thats what i think, maybe the double attack lvl (50) on magic weaps its wrong maybe its just 50-65+50b:bye

_Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City

I want the new warsoul. Must get it!!!!!

Vancore - Sanctuary

monkydluffy wrote: »

atention pwi bms theres a awesome news for all this attack rate lovers, 1 of the new 9 recast sets has interval on plate just for bms not on sins barb or archers b:victory

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/35751

also im still shocked i saw that mostly all magic warsoul weaps has

50-65 attack lvl + 2 extra (yeah i cant believe it) stats of 50 attack lvls thats equal to


195 attack lvl just for the weap plus Jones Blessing b:shocked maybe something its wrong b:sad

psy Warsoul weap

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/36518 b:angry

im so going to enjoy that wep

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

The new Warsoul is just +55~65 attack levels.

The chance associated with those "extra stats" is 0%.

Latest Patch Notes: http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67270.shtml
Not much to say other than them removing coin drop from doing Rebirth.

Pretty complicated explanation of point scoring system in the dynasty TW http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67271.shtml

I still don't see a good breakdown of the rewards you get. I did see someone on the forum mentioning he got 500 of the basic mat from a battle and that the full set for R9 would cost about 40billion coins... I'm not sure he knows what he's talking about though.

monkydluffy

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

The new Warsoul is just +55~65 attack levels.

The chance associated with those "extra stats" is 0%.

Latest Patch Notes: http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67270.shtml
Not much to say other than them removing coin drop from doing Rebirth.

Pretty complicated explanation of point scoring system in the dynasty TW http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67271.shtml

I still don't see a good breakdown of the rewards you get. I did see someone on the forum mentioning he got 500 of the basic mat from a battle and that the full set for R9 would cost about 40billion coins... I'm not sure he knows what he's talking about though.

well now im no sure about anything b:shocked check this version of the r9s3 Bow has that misterious stat that add 40 attack lvl plus the original 70 attack lvl from weap

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/36352


Also according to pwdatabase the mats for warsoul weaps cost


28 "Black thing mat" * 20m each = 560m
231 "yellow thing mat" 10 each = 2.31 Billion
chance to get 115 attack lvl, 50 from misterious stat

and R9S3 weapon

36 "Black thing mat" * 20m each = 720m
578 "yellow thing mat" 10m each = 5.78 Billion
110 attack lvl with 40 attack lvl from misterious stat

the question now is, why they make so expensive r9 and what about that misterious extra add ons and r9 and warsoul weaps b:surrender

Cotillion - Dreamweaver

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Latest Patch Notes: http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67270.shtml
Not much to say other than them removing coin drop from doing Rebirth.

What? Do you mean the ones from the mob spawns after each stage? From the Umbrella heads (i forget their name)

Narcillatrix - Dreamweaver

monkydluffy wrote: »

well now im no sure about anything b:shocked check this version of the r9s3 Bow has that misterious stat that add 40 attack lvl plus the original 70 attack lvl from weap

http://www.pwdatabase.com/cn/items/36352

Ohhoho looks to me like R9 has the upper hand yet again.
New warsouls look good, but THAT smexy little r9s3 looks way better to me.
Possible +110 att levels? Plus all the R9 gear bonuses? Yes please b:dirty

EDIT: Sphere looks smexy o.,o
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pwdatabase.com%2Fcn%2Fitems%2F36353&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

And just checked, said mysterious add on of +40 IS in fact more attack levels to them R9s3 :P

Euthymius - Heavens Tear

Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »

What? Do you mean the ones from the mob spawns after each stage? From the Umbrella heads (i forget their name)

God's Bestowal? They removed the coin-drop from it...?
>b:sad

Maelael - Heavens Tear

Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »

God's Bestowal? They removed the coin-drop from it...?
>b:sad

Warning: Rant:

I'm gonna have to go with WTF on that one PW.

I realize that people can 6-Box and kinda duo/solo RB or go afk and let the place run its course, but that's **** for some of us who actually play the damn game and do RBs because we enjoy it.

Part of the reason we do RB is due to the coin, frags, and OBPs that drop so we can make some money as a squad. Will those be gone next? Bad enough you barely get 1 OBP per person even during 2x, and that the tome frag quest can randomly give you mirages instead.

This getting the nerf stick because PW's staff can't deal with the botters outside of **** everyone is ****.

I really hope this isn't implemented in the PWI version. I realize there was balance with the new quests offsetting **** newbs over DQ drops, but how is this one gonna be balanced out? GG, don't put this in like you didn't put in the farming timer.

Trials are already screwed due to the change. Freakin stop it.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear

Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »

don't put this in like you didn't put in the farming timer.

Bad example...

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

Again I wouldn't look too much into those "extra stats". I don't know of anywhere else that has mentioned that and it is likely that PWDB is having a hard time reading the stats on the new gear.

The way stats are decoded is pretty confusing:
You would expect for "Attack Level +70" to be encoded as a pair of values like (Type = Attack Lev, Value = 70). In reality Attack Level +70 is a totally different stat ID than Attack Level +50 so when they add new gear its tricky to figure out what corresponds with what when you are scanning the data.

Bubbles - Morai

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Again I wouldn't look too much into those "extra stats". I don't know of anywhere else that has mentioned that and it is likely that PWDB is having a hard time reading the stats on the new gear.

The way stats are decoded is pretty confusing:
You would expect for "Attack Level +70" to be encoded as a pair of values like (Type = Attack Lev, Value = 70). In reality Attack Level +70 is a totally different stat ID than Attack Level +50 so when they add new gear its tricky to figure out what corresponds with what when you are scanning the data.

Nope.
Since 1.4.4/Genesis, it's actually easier to read the stats on gear because Wanmei puts the name of stats in property list instead of some encoded thing.

Before, it would show something like A_####.

Again, as I said, if the database is showing incorrect information, it's a mistake Wanmei did, not the tools that pwdatabase is using.

Nevarh - Sanctuary

Was wondering if anyone has any new information on the changes to Warsoul weapons? Have been working towards one for almost 4 years now & it would suck to get so close only for the dual axes to be able to be used by BM's only for example? Or if the change is a type of recast,will the original stat's be lost & replaced with random add's? & if any recast will be as hard to obtain as the original weapon?

Another question,with all the new mount's & baby pet's etc are they likely to bring out a pet bag extension or a separate mount bag or something to that effect?

Cotillion - Dreamweaver

Nevarh - Sanctuary wrote: »

Was wondering if anyone has any new information on the changes to Warsoul weapons? Have been working towards one for almost 4 years now & it would suck to get so close only for the dual axes to be able to be used by BM's only for example? Or if the change is a type of recast,will the original stat's be lost & replaced with random add's? & if any recast will be as hard to obtain as the original weapon?

Another question,with all the new mount's & baby pet's etc are they likely to bring out a pet bag extension or a separate mount bag or something to that effect?

I'm not 100% sure, but flipping thru the PWCN stuff on the pwdb, it looks like the Warsouls themselves are not changed. It looks like the recipes to make them are all unchanged as well.
The new options seem all involve that they are able to be recast for better stats (and they don't look too variable, so not much risk- just purely better).
This is what I'm getting from it anyway. Someone may come along and correct me.

Annalyse - Heavens Tear

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Latest Patch Notes: http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67270.shtml
Not much to say other than them removing coin drop from doing Rebirth.

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I will be *so* ticked off if they bring that here. I have come out of full runs on 2x with no pages and minimal frags, and what coins that drop help make up for that. And it's already hard enough dragging people into RB when they would rather be doing Nirvana...

Honestly, an instance that takes a decent team effort and a lot of time to complete like RB should have better rewards if anything. Most people don't think it is worth the time as it is.

Sjuggs - Lost City

Annalyse - Heavens Tear wrote: »

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I will be *so* ticked off if they bring that here. I have come out of full runs on 2x with no pages and minimal frags, and what coins that drop help make up for that. And it's already hard enough dragging people into RB when they would rather be doing Nirvana...

Honestly, an instance that takes a decent team effort and a lot of time to complete like RB should have better rewards if anything. Most people don't think it is worth the time as it is.

Eww thats not good

Haila - Sanctuary

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Latest Patch Notes: http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120927/67270.shtml
Not much to say other than them removing coin drop from doing Rebirth.

I see crazy stone for 91+ going to average stones b:surprised