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Foxy_Fiona - Heavens Tear wrote: »You guys can keep dumping money into this sinking ship and try to justify it however you want, but the reality is that this game is old and the company that runs it couldn't care less about the players. If that's the sort of company you want to support, whatever. It's your money.
Ummm if you dont care for the game, then why the hell are you bothering to post on its forums? Go play your supposedly new epic game, enjoy that but leave those who enjoy pwi to their own fun.
As for money, your going to probably do the exact same thing on your game as a lot of us do on here, so you really have little to no room to talk.0 -
Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »It was over a long time ago.
le gasp!b:shockedHellsNoir - Sanctuary wrote: »As for money, your going to probably do the exact same thing on your game as a lot of us do on here, so you really have little to no room to talk.
Said game is not "Pay-to-win", so I doubt it b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Semi Retired Psychic of Radiance faction//Entering full retirement upon the release of ĠuildẂars2 or an otherwise drastic change in PWI management.
"Exploiting a glitch is a violation of the ToS under User Conduct:
(l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players"-frankieraye ............guess he changed his mind.0 -
Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just a question for anyone, if you put in loads of effort/cash into your character(s), would it be harder for you to quit this game if the thought ever came up?
For example, if you were a cashshopper and had full r9+12 gears, the moment you do quit, would it actually be hard for you to quit 100% because you invested loads of time and money?
If you were a hardcore F2P player, and merched/farmed the funds for your gears, like r9+12, would it be hard on you when the moment to quit comes, knowing that ultimately, all the time you put into the game, will no longer have anything significant in the future?
Only using r9+12 gears as an example by the way, I'm talking about any significant effort over time made as a player.
I'm just wondering if people are emotionally attach to their characters and effort so much, that they will play PW, regardless of anything happening, because you might think that potentially years of work would ultimately end and mean very little for you in the future.
Just a random thought.
Knownase, I have given this a little too much thought lately. My answer is yes it will be hard to walk away and I don't even have R9 +12 gear. The hours farming with friends and grinding to get from lvl 70 - 80 on my veno (before BHs, hypers and FF glitches) and the ability to make so many friends from all over the world does make it harder to just walk away 100% from PWI. I have played a few online games, but never made the friends that I have made here. I am hoping that a few of the ones that are still around in PW will move to the game I will be playing when it comes out.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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FateMakerr - Heavens Tear wrote: »le gasp!b:shocked
Well well well! Look who it is.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just a question for anyone, if you put in loads of effort/cash into your character(s), would it be harder for you to quit this game if the thought ever came up?
For example, if you were a cashshopper and had full r9+12 gears, the moment you do quit, would it actually be hard for you to quit 100% because you invested loads of time and money?
If you were a hardcore F2P player, and merched/farmed the funds for your gears, like r9+12, would it be hard on you when the moment to quit comes, knowing that ultimately, all the time you put into the game, will no longer have anything significant in the future?
Only using r9+12 gears as an example by the way, I'm talking about any significant effort over time made as a player.
I'm just wondering if people are emotionally attach to their characters and effort so much, that they will play PW, regardless of anything happening, because you might think that potentially years of work would ultimately end and mean very little for you in the future.
Just a random thought.
I think this is correct. I was very attached to my cleric. Well, this was before I started playing a game named after dirt/earth. I actually feel like time was wasted playing PWI, if you can actually say you wasted time playing a game? The new game play has balance. My cleric has the skills to actually go toe to toe like it should. Second highest HP pool of all classes actually. No control skills, but good ways to escape. Squadding is fun again. Questing is fun again. I got pk'd by someone named pompom, it was exciting! I really enjoy the social aspects of MMo's. PWI doesn't have that anymore.
I'm sure a day will come when I am bored of the new game. Things get boring after a while.
I log on PWI 2-3x a week now for about 20 mins to talk in faction. To those saying the game isn't dead, it just hasn't hit you yet. I've played PWI since 3 weeks after DW opened.Excuse me , i just threw up in my mouth a little bit .
Me too.
Edit: If anyone else is playing this game, I'm Kaiya on f.v.0 -
Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well well well! Look who it is.
likewise b:mischievous[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Semi Retired Psychic of Radiance faction//Entering full retirement upon the release of ĠuildẂars2 or an otherwise drastic change in PWI management.
"Exploiting a glitch is a violation of the ToS under User Conduct:
(l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players"-frankieraye ............guess he changed his mind.0 -
Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just a question for anyone, if you put in loads of effort/cash into your character(s), would it be harder for you to quit this game if the thought ever came up?
For example, if you were a cashshopper and had full r9+12 gears, the moment you do quit, would it actually be hard for you to quit 100% because you invested loads of time and money?
If you were a hardcore F2P player, and merched/farmed the funds for your gears, like r9+12, would it be hard on you when the moment to quit comes, knowing that ultimately, all the time you put into the game, will no longer have anything significant in the future?
Only using r9+12 gears as an example by the way, I'm talking about any significant effort over time made as a player.
I'm just wondering if people are emotionally attach to their characters and effort so much, that they will play PW, regardless of anything happening, because you might think that potentially years of work would ultimately end and mean very little for you in the future.
Just a random thought.
I feel no attachment to this game anymore. Once this new unmentionable game *cough* Wuild Gars two *cough*, I'll be hopping over there. Now, I know many, many people have said this about every other MMO and end up hoping back within several months .but I am not among them. Although my gear is no where near the epicness of a R9+12 (rocking r8 +3) it won't really be too difficult. For one, I spent little money on here, most of my stuff was merchentd effortlessly by AFK catshopping goods. So I don't feel a financial attachment to this game. Although I have spent a lot of time on here, I simply don't find the joy in the game that I used too. I will admit, I had lots of fun with the game in the past, I'm just moving on.
The reason why it'll be easy to leave though is because of the PWE company that runs it. This game has sooooo much potential to be better but the folks that run it don't care. In a way, it's kind of no going back to fixing this game. I like the thought of working for your stuff and not just shelling out several hundred dollars. I only played 2 MMO's in my life and that has been Roonscaape and PWI. Honestly, I had more fun on RS when it came to PVE'ing and questing. The only thing that drove me here was the pvp but now that server activity has significantly decreased, I gotta dismount this dead horse and find a new one. More likely, I will pop in here once in a while just to see what's new and maybe do a little rpk'ing on my sin for several minutes but nothing more.0 -
__Serpent__ - Lost City wrote: »I feel no attachment to this game anymore. Once this new unmentionable game *cough* Wuild Gars two *cough*, I'll be hopping over there. Now, I know many, many people have said this about every other MMO and end up hoping back within several months .but I am not among them. Although my gear is no where near the epicness of a R9+12 (rocking r8 +3) it won't really be too difficult. For one, I spent little money on here, most of my stuff was merchentd effortlessly by AFK catshopping goods. So I don't feel a financial attachment to this game. Although I have spent a lot of time on here, I simply don't find the joy in the game that I used too. I will admit, I had lots of fun with the game in the past, I'm just moving on.
The reason why it'll be easy to leave though is because of the PWE company that runs it. This game has sooooo much potential to be better but the folks that run it don't care. In a way, it's kind of no going back to fixing this game. I like the thought of working for your stuff and not just shelling out several hundred dollars. I only played 2 MMO's in my life and that has been Roonscaape and PWI. Honestly, I had more fun on RS when it came to PVE'ing and questing. The only thing that drove me here was the pvp but now that server activity has significantly decreased, I gotta dismount this dead horse and find a new one. More likely, I will pop in here once in a while just to see what's new and maybe do a little rpk'ing on my sin for several minutes but nothing more.
funy that comming fom Op class talking about how the devs runs thing isnt this a bit hipocritically.0 -
_Ghoul_ - Lost City wrote: »funy that comming fom Op class talking about how the devs runs thing isnt this a bit hipocritically.
Well seeing how I don't manage the sales, have the ability or power to maintain and fix glitches, yea... the developers DO run the game.0 -
__Serpent__ - Lost City wrote: »Well seeing how I don't manage the sales, have the ability or power to maintain and fix glitches, yea... the developers DO run the game.
If you will be able to manage the sales, what would you do ?
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Don't forget, that you can't give CS items for free in Free-to-play game.0 -
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Tell me if there is any other game out there where you can adjust chest size like here in PWI or else b:bye b:bye to your shiny graphics games.The only way to beat a troll is....to troll him back b:angry0 -
I'll add my 2 cents...
Graphics are not everything for a game and judging/comparing games based on graphics is just stupid. They may be eye candy but if they don't have decent gameplay then graphics will do nothing for you. I am not saying PWI has great gameplay, this is a matter of preference. I still go back and play old games with graphics that suck under today's standards but I'm still having fun because It's the gameplay that I love the most.
As for people spending money on this game, it's none of your concern how people choose to use their money. And don't assume I'm some heavy CSer because I said that. You shouldn't judge people based on how much money they spend or where they spend them anyway.
PWI's management is awful, yes. The balance of the game sucks, yes. Everything changed and PWI is not what it used to be. Back in 2008 and early 2009 the game was epic. Yes, yes, yes. I know. I was there. I played through it. If you're not happy anymore just leave. Nobody's holding you here.
People choose to stay because they have friends, factions, still enjoy the game and whatnot. Again, it's none of your concern what keeps people here, why people choose to play this game, why people choose not to try out the new games. Everyone has their own reasons and you are in no position to judge anyone and anything.
Note, this was not directed to someone specifically but to the thread as a whole.
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Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »I'll add my 2 cents...
Graphics are not everything for a game and judging/comparing games based on graphics is just stupid. They may be eye candy but if they don't have decent gameplay then graphics will do nothing for you. I am not saying PWI has great gameplay, this is a matter of preference. I still go back and play old games with graphics that suck under today's standards but I'm still having fun because It's the gameplay that I love the most.
As for people spending money on this game, it's none of your concern how people choose to use their money. And don't assume I'm some heavy CSer because I said that. You shouldn't judge people based on how much money they spend or where they spend them anyway.
PWI's management is awful, yes. The balance of the game sucks, yes. Everything changed and PWI is not what it used to be. Back in 2008 and early 2009 the game was epic. Yes, yes, yes. I know. I was there. I played through it. If you're not happy anymore just leave. Nobody's holding you here.
People choose to stay because they have friends, factions, still enjoy the game and whatnot. Again, it's none of your concern what keeps people here, why people choose to play this game, why people choose not to try out the new games. Everyone has their own reasons and you are in no position to judge anyone and anything.
Note, this was not directed to someone specifically but to the thread as a whole.
Totally with you there.
I find myself playing emulator games for N64 on my PC cause of fun I had playing those games and it's certainly not for the graphics. New game in June and I'll be playing that when it comes out, but I know I will still be on PW because of the friends I have here though if I could convince them to join me b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just a question for anyone, if you put in loads of effort/cash into your character(s), would it be harder for you to quit this game if the thought ever came up?
For example, if you were a cashshopper and had full r9+12 gears, the moment you do quit, would it actually be hard for you to quit 100% because you invested loads of time and money?
If you were a hardcore F2P player, and merched/farmed the funds for your gears, like r9+12, would it be hard on you when the moment to quit comes, knowing that ultimately, all the time you put into the game, will no longer have anything significant in the future?
Only using r9+12 gears as an example by the way, I'm talking about any significant effort over time made as a player.
I'm just wondering if people are emotionally attach to their characters and effort so much, that they will play PW, regardless of anything happening, because you might think that potentially years of work would ultimately end and mean very little for you in the future.
Just a random thought.
Personally I think it's more the social aspect than the financial one that makes it so hard for some people to leave and/or keeping coming back even after trying other (newer) games.
To some people, this game is a very important part of their lives in that they have on-line friends here who probably far out number their actual irl friends. Some may have even met their real life partners through this game. It's not hard to see then why so many stick around even after acknowledging how terribly the game is being run by non-caring management; how many unfixed bugs there are; how imbalanced the classes are, etc etc... none of it really matters because actual game play is secondary to what they are really logging on to PWI for.
Now contrast that with your R9 +12 example. Yes such a person might have epic gear but if they are basically a loner... with a friends list derived more from people befriending them in hopes of being invited to future squads rather than actual friendship... and who basically logs on to do his/her dailies and then is bored out of their mind until TW rolls around... then not even the $5,000 USD they spent to outfit their toon will keep them here once the next epic games roll out.
Of course there are the majority that fall somewhere between the above two extreme examples. And for this middle group (good gear but not greatest and lots of friends but yet don't "live" in their faction)... its not that they don't want to stick around. But for every **** up by our esteemed management... it's just another prod in the direction of the next new shiny game. And if that new game turns out to be just as addictive as PW once was... there is no coming back.
And that's my two cents. b:avoid0 -
For the Record.....Playing a game for only its graphics is kinda like watching a porno for its story line....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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FateMakerr - Heavens Tear wrote: »Said game is not "Pay-to-win", so I doubt it b:cute
Neither was PWI when it was first released, Your argument is invalid0 -
Toonsurfer - Sanctuary wrote: »For the Record.....Playing a game for only its graphics is kinda like watching a porno for its story line....
But they are so believable b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Desdi - Sanctuary wrote: »
I still go back and play old games with graphics that suck under today's standards but I'm still having fun because It's the gameplay that I love the most.
same here ^_^you only purge once #yopo0 -
MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »Neither was PWI when it was first released, Your argument is invalid
PWI is a free-to-play game that was made by an Asian company. There's no way anybody is going to tell me that they didn't see pay-to-win in the future. There was also no prior history to give people the impression that it wouldn't turn into that kind of game.
This other game is different. The company that made it wants everybody to be on an even playing field for PvP. Don't you think allowing people to buy power would sort of ruin that? They aren't dumb. They wanted the same thing for the first game and 7 years later it's still not pay-to-win. I'm pretty confident that it won't ever be an option.
His argument is still valid.Toonsurfer - Sanctuary wrote:For the Record.....Playing a game for only its graphics is kinda like watching a porno for its story line....
LOL? The graphics are just icing on the delicious cake. I don't know too terribly much about the "earth" game since I don't do monthly subscriptions, but I do know that the game I was referring to has way more going for it than being pretty.0 -
Perfect World International IS the BEST MMORPG EVAH!!
PWI 4 LIFE BABY. Play it till i DIE.0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »If you will be able to manage the sales, what would you do ?
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Don't forget, that you can't give CS items for free in Free-to-play game.
Well for one, I wouldn't have made this game a P2W game. I would have kept active GM's and actually offer a variety of events, not the same'old **** the spew at us today. Mostly though, I would make this game a subscription game because let's face it, they're a company, companies wan't to make money. I would totally play this game if we had to pay a monthly because then they wouldn't be so dependent on Godly CS'ers for money and they could actually focus on making this game better for everyone.
Unfortunately, that isn't how it is and it can never be that way simply because the hole they dug is already too deep. No hope for this game, I give it no more than 2 more years before they shut the servers down. It was fun while it lasted. b:bye0 -
Foxy_Fiona - Heavens Tear wrote: »PWI is a free-to-play game that was made by an Asian company. There's no way anybody is going to tell me that they didn't see pay-to-win in the future. There was also no prior history to give people the impression that it wouldn't turn into that kind of game.
This other game is different. The company that made it wants everybody to be on an even playing field for PvP. Don't you think allowing people to buy power would sort of ruin that? They aren't dumb. They wanted the same thing for the first game and 7 years later it's still not pay-to-win. I'm pretty confident that it won't ever be an option.
His argument is still valid.
You can try and deny it all you like but it will happen, it doesn't matter if it was made by an Asian company, British company or an American company. 99% of MMORPG games change over an amount of time, they assess the situation with their player base (whether it is high or low) then make decisions based on that, obviously PWI doesn't do this but still. With all the hype about said game you cannot wait to play, it will probably end up that way. If you didn't know by now all gaming companies are falling into the same pattern, they release a product which is not completely finished then slowly they add new content to get people playing again, this also applies to console games with releasing DLC and map packs.
Doesn't matter if right now they want everyone to be on an equal playing field for PVP, new people come in and things change like it did with PWI.
I repeat my earlier post, if you don't like this game, go away. The forums don't need you here moaning, QQ'ing and trying to argue a point to leave a game because YOU think everyone should. Go spend your time away from the computer until said game is out.0 -
Evict - Heavens Tear wrote: »It was over a long time ago.
exactly0 -
PW has released two new titles to compete with new generation games. But maybe some players are more loyal to PWI than they are PW the company. So they arent going to switch to a new title just becuse PW happens to back it.
Maybe the company can design a sequel to PW since Anet is obviously abandoning their first title. Maybe like a PW 2 in the future that allows veteran players to transfer stats and equipment to their alt in the sequel after having completed level cap in the following game.0 -
tientiensuser wrote: »PW has released two new titles to compete with new generation games. But maybe some players are more loyal to PWI than they are PW the company. So they arent going to switch to a new title just becuse PW happens to back it.
Maybe the company can design a sequel to PW since Anet is obviously abandoning their first title. Maybe like a PW 2 in the future that allows veteran players to transfer stats and equipment to their alt in the sequel after having completed level cap in the following game.
PWI not forcing someone to buy an entire new set of R9? Never gonna happen b:cute[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Semi Retired Psychic of Radiance faction//Entering full retirement upon the release of ĠuildẂars2 or an otherwise drastic change in PWI management.
"Exploiting a glitch is a violation of the ToS under User Conduct:
(l) Using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players"-frankieraye ............guess he changed his mind.0 -
If you dont want to play anymore fine, go away. But please don't annoy us with threads whining about it.
People join and leave the game every day.
You are not a unique snowflake.What kind of fool pays for a free game.0 -
PinkyMe - Sanctuary wrote: »As a 102 with pretty decent gear, there isnt much left to do in this game. b:surrender Pretty much only thing i need is a "good" orb sale, but im foolish to think that will ever happen.
Im sure ALOT of u guys have noticed the recent release of one of the top three games this year. It really surprised me that there was no great sale this maintenance to actually "try" keep their players here. IF there is some new content coming out, NOW is the best time to tell us.
So my question/reason for this thread goes out to the staff of PWI/PWE ....... Is this it? Is it over? b:sad
this company loves money more than quagmire loves the ladies at a stripclub, but this is an overseas company ......... probably dont care, and more concerned about their local issues.
not to mention, a lot of users in pwi have low end computers, so we dont have much choice but to keep playing pwi[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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runescapesucks wrote: »Perfect World International IS the BEST MMORPG EVAH!!
PWI 4 LIFE BABY. Play it till i DIE.
should i feed the troll?
*gives him a peanut*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Lolgasmic - Raging Tide wrote: »not to mention, a lot of users in pwi have low end computers, so we dont have much choice but to keep playing pwi
You got the choice to upgrade your computer if you want to play one of the new flashy oh so awesome games...?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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