Upcoming New Skill Info (more details)

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

First post updated with official skill names and translation. WTF is with blazing arrow breaking stealth lol >_>

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear

Maybe they think the 10 second buff on Demon Blazing arrow is too powerful.

Quilue - Sanctuary

20s foolcake!

Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973

I guess it's just a way for you to turn off stealth without having to attack or use sparks.
You can cast Ataraxia again to turn it off but would have to wait 2 minutes

Pouroush - Raging Tide

Anfisa - Lost City wrote: »

The OP says that the range increase is 6, so it would be at 40m. Demon has the upper-hand in this case. 38m range is still good and gets 12 barrages off in the buff time while sage only get 10. But either way I would imagine a sin could easily jump to you to stop boa.

Sin tele skill ranges max to 35 meters in that contrast they can reach a demon faster than sage.....

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

Pouroush - Raging Tide wrote: »

Sin tele skill ranges max to 35 meters in that contrast they can reach a demon faster than sage.....

Because to walk an extra metre takes so long right? Also, demon tele has 40 metre range.

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

Pouroush - Raging Tide wrote: »

Sin tele skill ranges max to 35 meters in that contrast they can reach a demon faster than sage.....

ijs, that is no point at all.... its not like the sin is stupid enough to run into the barrage and telestuns from the centre of the barrage... he would probably come from some flank

Pouroush - Raging Tide

Hmmmm i see the point there that its simply better to release ur attack fast before getting sealed n stunned n stuff.....so demon BoA has an upper hand there as well

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

So Arrow Inferno is a waste skill right? What is the use of that skill?

scenario:

Archer: haha i will make it easier for everyone to kill that cata Barb. - uses Arrow Inferno-

at the same time:

Cleric sees the archer casting Arrow Inferno and hits the purify button

Cleric: GTFO.

Archer: Why u ***** QQ

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

Nothing new...we've had that situation with Blood Vow for 2 years now. Of course if your squad is decent the cata cleric should be killed or SotG before trying to take down a cata barb.

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

but talking about some mechanic changing skills eh? well, guess archer is not at the long shot with the new skills, when you compare them to other strategy possibilities of other classes

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

Stealth and two leaps sounds mechanic changing to me. Now you can sit above enemy B gate and kill their cata clerics and some more from range.

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

stealth is not mechanic changing at all, if you look at the new seeker or mystic skill... most cata squads will be forced to have 1-2 mystics in squad mystic reveals those archers or seeker telestuns and knocks them out.... same for sin

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

1-2 mystics per cata squad...my faction which was the land holding faction on RT before the reset have 3 mystics in the faction each TW.

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

well whatever u no what i am trying to tell you lol

Eroz - Harshlands

I thought I'd share the points you need for each skill:

Leaps - 337 & 338
Ataraxia - 675
Arrow Inferno - 675
Galvanic Charge - 15

Vindis - Dreamweaver

Galvanic BoA is awesomeness.

Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »

Now you can sit above enemy B gate and kill their cata clerics and some more from range.

You didn't already do this? Also, I prefer sitting on their gates, holding them inside. Walls ftw.

Hurrdurr - Lothranis

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Galvanic BoA is awesomeness.



You didn't already do this? Also, I prefer sitting on their gates, holding them inside. Walls ftw.

Funnily enough I couldn't do it alone.

/eren - Dreamweaver159

blazing arrow breaks stealth cuz you have a giant ball of pulsing red light in your hand that represents fire. set yourself on fire once then see how stealthy you can be about it

brisingraz

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

Stealth level = char level + 30

That means you can be seen by:
- same level sins
- seekers 1 level lower using their new +31 detect level skill
- mystics 1 level lower using their skill (I think)
- same level characters using a detection pot (+30 detect level)
- characters 1 level lower using the revelation pot (+31 detect level from maiden embrace chest)

The new detect pots from maiden embrace / blood theater do not use apoth cool down.

According to ectatomb your stealth lvl is increased by 31 and your speed is reduced to 0.1m/s
http://www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

davkese

Hi.. Sins have a passive skills that let them highen their stealth and stealth detection level.
Meaning a sins stealth detection level is higher than normal if the passive skill is leveled up

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear

So far Galvanic Charge is pretty usefull in TW.

Helped a lot to kill nasty defensive range people who stood on their walls b:pleased

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So far Galvanic Charge is pretty usefull in TW.

Helped a lot to kill nasty defensive range people who stood on their walls b:pleased

Eh, those can generally be killed just fine without the use of GC. I couldn't even hit towers from the spot behind the enemy spawn with GC on, pretty disappointing.

Quilue - Sanctuary

In my opinion, a lot of the new skills are for the moderately-geared to help them fight against the better-geared with some coordination and teamwork. An archer can presumably try to debuff other targets that would otherwise 1 shot them and set them up to be killed by their better-geared teammates. You would use such skills as stun, freeze, hp debuff, without being retaliated against as well as contribute some damage.

This can be seen from sins' AOE stealth, clerics' new skills, etc as well. It's probably designed to prevent a repeat of last reset...where a squad of R9s defend against a much larger number of lesser-geared people in TW.

Vindis - Dreamweaver

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

In my opinion, a lot of the new skills are for the moderately-geared to help them fight against the better-geared with some coordination and teamwork. An archer can presumably try to debuff other targets that would otherwise 1 shot them and set them up to be killed by their better-geared teammates. You would use such skills as stun, freeze, hp debuff, without being retaliated against as well as contribute some damage.

This can be seen from sins' AOE stealth, clerics' new skills, etc as well. It's probably designed to prevent a repeat of last reset...where a squad of R9s defend against a much larger number of lesser-geared people in TW.

Nail meets hammer. ^

Pretty much. Though I would argue that 'potentially' the biggest game changer is the barb's anti-flight AoE thingy (Have it learned and I can't recall the name rofl). It has a huge radius and casts pretty quickly. I decimate ranged classes that love to kite barbs with that in duels (soon to be in nab TW if I throw my barb into a land holding faction). Also random, but that Barb AoE is hilariously huge in heads room, ijs.

Galvanic, so far, isn't as useful as I thought it would be. I still kill most things rather easily without it, but it is useful for combatting other archers, especially when their survivability (+10 cube necks/etc) is probably better than my own (my faction shouldn't have a substantially challenging TW for another 2 weeks or so).

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

Well it certainly does give the lesser-geared more tools to work with, but the same skills are available to the heavily geared as well. Not that a +10-12 R9 needs extra help dealing with an average-geared person.

Sidwinder - Heavens Tear

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Nail meets hammer. ^

Pretty much. Though I would argue that 'potentially' the biggest game changer is the barb's anti-flight AoE thingy (Have it learned and I can't recall the name rofl). It has a huge radius and casts pretty quickly. I decimate ranged classes that love to kite barbs with that in duels (soon to be in nab TW if I throw my barb into a land holding faction). Also random, but that Barb AoE is hilariously huge in heads room, ijs.

Galvanic, so far, isn't as useful as I thought it would be. I still kill most things rather easily without it, but it is useful for combatting other archers, especially when their survivability (+10 cube necks/etc) is probably better than my own (my faction shouldn't have a substantially challenging TW for another 2 weeks or so).

I don't pvp but can that barb aoe be evaded? Just wondering if you happen to have Blessing of the Condor up if it can be dodged maybe.

Vindis - Dreamweaver

Sidwinder - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't pvp but can that barb aoe be evaded? Just wondering if you happen to have Blessing of the Condor up if it can be dodged maybe.

It isn't 100% success rate and doesn't work on players 5 levels higher than the barb. My barb is only level 91 so I am unable to test it against anything heavily geared. My barb is also only 91, and as such, not heavily geared. I assume r8/r9/Full Nirv Cata barbs in TW could make use of it due to the mass amount of people in the air it is basically guaranteed to hit someone.

_blood_rain - Sanctuary

From what barbs tell me, there isn't much to worry about.

They've all been complaining about how weak it is >.>

Vindis - Dreamweaver

_blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »

From what barbs tell me, there isn't much to worry about.

They've all been complaining about how weak it is >.>

It is very low damage. But dropping entire air squads to ground level with it could be disaster with the right strategy.

On topic:

Anyone have any of the new skills (Galvanic aside) learned yet?