PW International Championship Discussion
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Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Wait if a guild was too stupid to read the rules and submits too many of a class, they just don't allow that guild to correct the mistake?
Ok cmon now. There's lazy, then there's LAZY.
Lazy is not reading the rules.
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The GM's already have to install the game to referee the tournament. Seriously, what do you want from them?Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Wait if a guild was too stupid to read the rules and submits too many of a class, they just don't allow that guild to correct the mistake?
Ok cmon now. There's lazy, then there's LAZY.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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longknife - Harshlands wrote: »wait If A Guild Was Too Stupid To Read The Rules And Submits Too Many Of A Class, They Just Don't Allow That Guild To Correct The Mistake?
Ok Cmon Now. There's Lazy, Then There's lazy.requirements For Being On A Team:
O All 7 Characters Must Be Level 100 Or Greater By Sunday July 17th At 11:59pm Pdt.
O each Team Can Have At Most 1 Of The Following Classes: Blademaster, Barbarian, Assassin, And Psychic
O Each Team Can Have At Most 2 Of The Following Classes: Wizard, Venomancer, Archer, Cleric, Seeker, And Mystic
O The “alternate” Character Has To Follow The Rules Above As Well, So For Example, If Your Team Has One Assassin Already (in The First 6 Members), The Alternate Cannot Also Be An Assassin. If Your Team Has One Wizard In The First 6 Members, Then The Alternate Can Be A Wizard As Well.frankieraye wrote: »harshlands
omerta
kaserale Blademaster
Lady_kiyomi Cleric
Untamed_pav Barbarian
Xxxwantedxxx Assassin
Digs Archer
thelegend Blademaster
zotics Blademaster
*cannot Have More Than 1 Blademaster. This Team Will Have To Fight Shorthanded.*
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Marche - Harshlands wrote: »
Lmfao
as if it wasn't "lmfao" enough that omerta even had enough land to send a squad.0 -
Hard to understand why Valhala isnt taking a cleric with them0
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Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »Hard to understand why Valhala isnt taking a cleric with them
It's because they don't have any good clerics anymore.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »It's because they don't have any good clerics anymore.
Are you trying to tell us something Eoria?I AGOREY0 -
Longknife - Harshlands wrote: »Are you trying to tell us something Eoria?
Hmm...possibly. b:avoid[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »It's because they don't have any good clerics anymore.
they're also bringing straight pvp DDs for the most part to try to knock out a certain somebody. 1-hittable r8 EPs don't really cut the mustard for kamikaze pvp.0 -
funny thing... some people cant come in cause their acc is suspended... b:chuckle0
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step 1 - see request for "100+ seeker/barb/bm for special fc" in world chat
step 2 - submit support ticket reporting world chatter's name for suspected bug abuse
step 3 - laugh at the occasional chance of a GM checking their instance and handing out 24h vacations (first offense anyway) to all involved
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Paimage - Harshlands wrote: »Hard to understand why Valhala isnt taking a cleric with them
Who needs Cleric when you got full R9+12?0 -
Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Who needs Cleric when you got full R9+12?
Uhmmmm....[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
-Semi-quit the game, I'm very busy nowadays
-Former member of Kylin
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to be fair, harpy wraith is likely doable with the right classes and maxed gear, without an EP (or mystic). the problem is you may be forced to play cautiously enough, so your DDs don't die, that your killing time will be dramatically slowed down anyway.
it's not enough to have a squad that can do the job if they play cautiously enough - if you're slower than the other servers' squads, you still lose.0 -
Well GZ to catalyst for the win... Now aim to the top make us proud... Dikastis cheering for u hun dont get lazy b:chuckle and the other team mates go go u can do it too[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Gz Cata :>
Was a very easy win, but still.
I personally still get shocked with all the obsession about Valhalla and what we do everytime, even if I didnt agree on the line up we sent to event at all, it is funny to see how we're mentioned in every single thread, almost every single post. But I guess server-wise obsession makes sense, since even without the force for it, we were still the only ones to actually TRY to beat Cata at any point, enough to make some history, so until the rest of the guilds grow some slightly-round-things-in-their-private-area (hopefully before whole map goes grey) guess it will still carry on, but its ok, we're big people, we can take it. :>
Now, you can start/go back to the troll.
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Fragil - Harshlands wrote: »Gz Cata :>
Was a very easy win, but still.
I personally still get shocked with all the obsession about Valhalla and what we do everytime, even if I didnt agree on the line up we sent to event at all, it is funny to see how we're mentioned in every single thread, almost every single post. But I guess server-wise obsession makes sense, since even without the force for it, we were still the only ones to actually TRY to beat Cata at any point, enough to make some history, so until the rest of the guilds grow some slightly-round-things-in-their-private-area (hopefully before whole map goes grey) guess it will still carry on, but its ok, we're big people, we can take it. :>
Now, you can start/go back to the troll.
Peace.
K, I'm gonna say this once more in big colorful font to make it clear:
People hate Valhalla because they came out of ****ing nowhere and popped up on our server, horded all the CS-whoars, got r9 +12 out the butt, then absolutely destroyed Harshland's PK-life by mindlessly one-shotting everyone level 30+ without ever showing signs of getting bored of one-shotting people.
I literally remember a time when I went to Silver pool, found a bunch of Mayhem, Insanity, Crimson and other random guilds, we had a fun free-for-all thing going on, then one or two of the r9 +12 Valhallas show up. A bunch of us decided that instead of just leaving like we normally do, we were gonna squad up and try to kill one of them. We ended up forming a squad of six people. In the time it took us to do that and chi up, Valhalla had formed a squad of r9 +12 players. Still, we didn't care: we'd had fun fighting each other just now and Valhalla ruined it. We decided we'd still try and we'd focus fire to try and kill one of them, since rumor is that Valhalla REALLY loves having a high KPD. So then we charged out, clearly outgeared, started shooting a target and....
He ****ing ironguarded. Well, that's pretty freaking stupid. Here we are actually providing them with a fight even though it's an uphill battle, and the guy getting hit ironguards. Well, we can switch targets to- wait wtf. That jackass just ironguarded too. Quick get the- ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS HE IRONGUARDED TOO??
Needless to say, we all left. Pi$$ed the **** off. I don't think a single one of us wasn't dissing Valhalla's mother at that point. It's not enough to have far better gear than everyone else, Valhalla usually ganks too. It's not enough to gank either, they gotta always have ironguards on hand. And worst of all, they never get bored. They'll keep one-shotting that same r8 +3 wizard who's showing ZERO signs of resistance or willingness to fight back, because Valhalla is under the impression that people actually give a **** about KPD ratio, as if it wasn't obvious to anyone that PKs regularly that some of the players with the BEST KPD ratios use the cheapest tactics.
And then what happens? The MOMENT Val is involved in a type of PVP that involves extra thought, strategy and teamwork, they get absolutely rolled. And not just absolutely rolled like many of the other "fail" TW guilds; no, Valhalla is most likely -THE- worst TW guild if you look at all the factors and consider just how EXTRA hard Valhalla would have to suck to manage to **** up with the gears they have. This is where Schadenfreude comes in. We'd all love to be able to log in at any random time, relax and enjoy our game via the PK community, but Valhalla ruins this for us. And yet, they're so god damn head-up-*** ret@rded that they don't stand a chance in TW. It's one thing when a guild that dominates the map dominates PK; it's another when a guild that has less lands than mother****ing Omerta and Watchers is running around with end-game gears one-shotting targets that are in TT90 and r8, calling for 2-5 other r9+12s for back-up the moment ANYONE actually shoots back at them.
So spare yourself these compliments like "people hate us because we dared to challenge Cata when no one else did" or whatever; that'll only make you delusional. Bidding on a guild once when 90% of the server is convinced you're the strongest guild on the map doesn't mean you have balls, especially when you basically bend over and take it/and or never learn from your mistakes after that initial bid.
No, the reason people don't like Valhalla is because it's nothing but a guild filled with sorry players who can't win a real PVP fight, so they pay their way to the top. It's filled with sorry players who don't one shot an opponent and decide the fight is boring and that they're out of their target's lead, then leaving in search of a better, more challenging fight, but rather they camp the poor guy, because everyone knows KPD is the meaning of life. The server's entire PK community is suffering because Valhalla has compensation issues: why the **** do you think we're unhappy?
Now look, I don't mean to sound so hateful and the last thing I wanna do is take this game serious or personal. I'm sure Valhalla is filled with lovely chaps who are quite nice to talk to and I'm sure they leave lovely lives outside of the game. Hell, I've also met several non-r9 Valhalla and one or two r9 +12 Valhalla who even agree with me and/or showed they'd like to have fun with decent fights as much as the next guy, and I hope they read this and know I'm not referring to them, BUT as long as you fly the Valhalla banner, people are gonna antagonize you too.
But from the perspective of me wanting to be able to log on this game and...y'know...FRIGGIN PLAY IT and PVP whenever I like, I want all your characters to go burn in a ****ing fire, lolz. I'm perfectly fine with dying in PK simply because my opponent is wiser, quicker, better, more clever etc. but this isn't it: I can die to a Valhalla having made no mistake myself and still having no idea how good they are, because the fight ends in one shot. This is like playing an FPS game against a player who uses hacks and/or invulnerability cheat codes to win, and then once the match is done and they won, the **** is like "OMG THAT WAS FUN, WINNING IS FUN LET'S GO AGAIN." When this PWIC thing started, I was ready to support any Harshlands guild that won it, because any of the guilds would deserve it as they're all a part of this server....except Valhalla. FFS just kill the guild lolz. Split up into smaller ones at least to stop the ganking and the pathetic TW attempts.
Personally I aimed to win at any costs (ridiculous odds, cheats etc) when I was like...6 years old. I thought winning was everything and the best thing ever and omg I gotta win. Then after ruining several games by cheating, I realized it was more fulfilling to play for the fun of the challenge, because there's no feeling better than improving and succeeding where you thought you would fail. Now why the HELL didn't Valhalla grow out of that childish winning phase?I AGOREY0 -
But thats exactly what most people fail to see Long.
Yes I agree 100% the start up on Valhalla was in all ways what you said. It came out of nowhere and all the power-hungry idiots ran to it without thinking twice for an easy win, there's no doubt in that and no one would even try to deny it.
When we bid on Catalyst, we were COMPLETELY lacking any team work, people came from everywhere and they never even played together before. When we TW'ed Cata the first time, it was our first TW that the opponent bothered to show and stand a fight, we had NO ONE showing before that would even stand a chance, NO WAY of practicing teamwork besides PVP, and we know how that goes, doesnt take much teamwork in world PVP besides once a week or so when there's decent numbers out there.
When we lost to Cata and the subconsequent weeks, we also lost a LOT of people, specially the heavy CS'ers. Who do you all complain so much on R9 +12? Wytche, Banz, wollfo, Bludd? How many guilds have 4 people with equivalent gear these days?
Thats not even the point.
The difference is the guild has changed, and has growned from a random group of power-hungry idiots to a normal guild setup, where members play together all the time and get to know eachother playstyle. Our teamwork has improved GREATLY in the last few weeks for the most part, same time our average gear lowered on status, but who cares, I personally prefer a nice active guild with decent people than any End-game inactive-only-log-on-for-TW one.
What you all fail to see is this difference.
Yes we are the most active PVP'er guild, but how can that be our fault?
Make your guild PVP too. You have people to compensate any gear difference, when we even have any R9 around, which isnt always, and if you bother to check the average member gear you might get yourself surprised.
Heck I wonder what you would say of Catalyst if they even bothered to PVP then.
But still all these people are stuck to the past and the way things were run before, and I know that wont change anytime soon, I have no illusions on server having any change of heart about Valhalla, but its their choice to do so.
We'll still be working on our teamwork which still has a lot of room to grow, and usually that also involves being active in world PVP. Heck, look at my gear, and Im still out there PVP'ing when possible with my +4's, and so are most of the people in the same situation.
Im sorry that ruins PVP for you, I really am. I wish PVP would be fun and possible for everyone, but Im not gonna ask anyone to not go out there and practice their PVP skills (specially as a team) for the sake of others practicing theirs.
Anyway, Im sure we have our pricks and idiots still, but so does E-V-E-R-Y guild, and if you bother to open your mind for a bit, you will see Valhalla is no different than any other guild:
Here to have some fun at the end of the day, play with friends and have some healthy laughs with some luck.
We're not half the bad sheeps everyone paints us as.
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Fragil - Harshlands wrote: »But thats exactly what most people fail to see Long.
Yes I agree 100% the start up on Valhalla was in all ways what you said. It came out of nowhere and all the power-hungry idiots ran to it without thinking twice for an easy win, there's no doubt in that and no one would even try to deny it.
When we bid on Catalyst, we were COMPLETELY lacking any team work, people came from everywhere and they never even played together before. When we TW'ed Cata the first time, it was our first TW that the opponent bothered to show and stand a fight, we had NO ONE showing before that would even stand a chance, NO WAY of practicing teamwork besides PVP, and we know how that goes, doesnt take much teamwork in world PVP besides once a week or so when there's decent numbers out there.
When we lost to Cata and the subconsequent weeks, we also lost a LOT of people, specially the heavy CS'ers. Who do you all complain so much on R9 +12? Wytche, Banz, wollfo, Bludd? How many guilds have 4 people with equivalent gear these days?
Thats not even the point.
The difference is the guild has changed, and has growned from a random group of power-hungry idiots to a normal guild setup, where members play together all the time and get to know eachother playstyle. Our teamwork has improved GREATLY in the last few weeks for the most part, same time our average gear lowered on status, but who cares, I personally prefer a nice active guild with decent people than any End-game inactive-only-log-on-for-TW one.
What you all fail to see is this difference.
Yes we are the most active PVP'er guild, but how can that be our fault?
Make your guild PVP too. You have people to compensate any gear difference, when we even have any R9 around, which isnt always, and if you bother to check the average member gear you might get yourself surprised.
Heck I wonder what you would say of Catalyst if they even bothered to PVP then.
But still all these people are stuck to the past and the way things were run before, and I know that wont change anytime soon, I have no illusions on server having any change of heart about Valhalla, but its their choice to do so.
We'll still be working on our teamwork which still has a lot of room to grow, and usually that also involves being active in world PVP. Heck, look at my gear, and Im still out there PVP'ing when possible with my +4's, and so are most of the people in the same situation.
Im sorry that ruins PVP for you, I really am. I wish PVP would be fun and possible for everyone, but Im not gonna ask anyone to not go out there and practice their PVP skills (specially as a team) for the sake of others practicing theirs.
Anyway, Im sure we have our pricks and idiots still, but so does E-V-E-R-Y guild, and if you bother to open your mind for a bit, you will see Valhalla is no different than any other guild:
Here to have some fun at the end of the day, play with friends and have some healthy laughs with some luck.
We're not half the bad sheeps everyone paints us as.
Now shower time, ^^
Where?
Where have you improved your teamwork? Catalyst was able to wipe you guys off the map without a sign of improvement. Valhalla seemed to die FIRST in the PWIC tournament. In PK Valhalla tends to just ironguard instead of rely on their teammates for help.Yes we are the most active PVP'er guild, but how can that be our fault?
Let me put it this way.
Let's say tomorrow, scientists burst out of a secret laboratory built on top of a mountain and said that we must be a complete and IMMEDIATE end to all car exhausts, or else GLOBAL WARMING would occur and would happen so intense that we would all die. Then three days later, Valhalla goes drag racing in their Ferrari's because they just REALLY feel compelled to compensate for something. You'd wanna ****ing kill them.
And that's how illogical, ridiculous and annoying Valhalla's PK style is. They one-shot, gank AND ironguard spam and they STILL never get sick of it. Valhalla just stinks of missed opportunity in the sense that PVP turns freaking ret@rded the moment they come out on the field; in my example above, as I said, I was having a fun free-for-all with Insanity, Mayhem, Crimson and a bunch of other randoms. It was fun because there was JUST the right number of people and JUST the right grudges being held so that a dominant force didn't develop. It was a perfectly balanced free for all and helluva lot of fun.
Then those ****ing idiots with their r9 +12 showed up, one shot everything and said "HURRRR DURRRR AGAIN AGAIN WINNING R FUN!1!11!"
And listen, when I was in Zulu? When I first joined? They were hella active in PK. So you know what I did? When they asked "any PK anywhere," I kept my mouth shut. I did so knowing full well that telling them meant 3-4 people would come, which was often too much for the crowd. I didn't want to win at any cost, I just wanted to PVP, and generally when Zulu showed, people left. So yeah, I find it ridiculous when people say "we can't help it we're so active!" Bull-****ing-****. The reason they're so "active" is because they only care about winning and hence, ALWAYS alert their buds and call for backup. I've heard from several Val themselves that guild chat lights up with requests/suggestions for people to go somewhere and PK.But still all these people are stuck to the past and the way things were run before, and I know that wont change anytime soon, I have no illusions on server having any change of heart about Valhalla, but its their choice to do so.
And why wouldn't they? What the hell is there to notice? You guys JUST performed horribly in the PWIC tournament YESTERDAY. Valhalla got it's *** handed to it at the weekly tournament by Catalyst. It's the same-old same-old.Im sorry that ruins PVP for you, I really am. I wish PVP would be fun and possible for everyone, but Im not gonna ask anyone to not go out there and practice their PVP skills (specially as a team) for the sake of others practicing theirs.
As I said, I'm not asking to win. Yknow a Valhalla I used to LOVE 1v1ing, even though it was a real uphill battle? wollfo. It was really good kiting practice and it demanded that I perform perfectly and never make a mistake, because he hits hard as balls. Wollfo would also charge at me 99% of the time when he saw me, so I was forced to fight him. Did I care? Hell no, it was still fun. But that's just it: it was FUN. These days, wolfo is still wollfo, but I haven't had a 1v1 with him in ages because Valhalla is constantly calling backup; my fight always gets interrupted and before I know it, Valhalla is expecting me to pull a miracle out of my *** and tank a r9 +12 wizard while kiting and shooting at a r9+12 barb that hits like a truck. All in my r8 gear.
The problem with Valhalla is that you've got idiots that literally one shot EVERYTHING and never get tired of it. We all attack lowbies and such: why? Because we don't know they're lowbies until we shoot them. The difference is that if I shoot a lowbie or a poorly geared player once or twice and they die in one hit, I stop. Val doesn't. The difference is that if I truly wanna provoke a fight, I kill everyone I see three times, then if they don't do anything, I leave them be. Val doesn't.Anyway, Im sure we have our pricks and idiots still, but so does E-V-E-R-Y guild, and if you bother to open your mind for a bit, you will see Valhalla is no different than any other guild:
The difference is that Crimson is a ***** because it's filled with hypocritical gankers and sore losers; nothing more.
The difference is Kylin is filled with snobs and drama-whoars; nothing more.
The difference is Catalyst is filled with arrogant pricks; nothing more.
None of those groups SINGLE HANDEDLY RUIN EVERYONE'S FUN IN EXCHANGE FOR BEING ABLE TO ONE-SHOT PEOPLE. I realize everyone plays this game for their own personal pleasure, but honestly, if one-shotting people gives you pleasure, have the common ****ing decency to realize that the amount of damage you do to the community as a whole isn't worth the very pathetic amount of satisfaction you get. What they do is like if I blew up my neighbors house "becuz the exploshun wuld luk kewl." That's great that I got to enjoy a 5 second view of a giant fireball, but now my neighbor is homeless. Wow I'm a *****.
And this brings me to my last point: why stay? There's no way in hell you can tell me "because I've become super good at working as a team with Wytche." No, no you haven't, because Wytche doesn't need it, nor do enough people ever fight BACK at Wytche for Wytche to need help. Wytche one-shots people and ironguards if he's in trouble. If he's TRULY being ganked, another r9 +12 shows up (not you) and again, minimal teamwork is needed.
I'm fully willing to believe that all the non-r9s feel they are somehow developing better teamwork (even if, admittedly, I sure as hell haven't seen it), but if you are, why do you need your r9 +12 leaders and co.? There's no way and hell you're learning teamwork with them, they're obviously not the best TW leaders and they're obviously gaining you a lot of unneccesary hate with their PK style. So why stay? Why not go form your own guild with all your teammates? Why not move to Crimson or Kylin or Insanity or Catalyst?
You sit here trying to distance yourself from the "bad" Valhalla who do all the things I mentioned and at the same time you try to tell me Valhalla has changed. Sounds to me like you just want to have your cake and eat it too.I AGOREY0 -
Rhyme - Harshlands wrote: »Longknife learn how to rainbow text.
How the **** did you do that you witch.I AGOREY0 -
I'm really not sure what you were expecting us to do.
Tell people not to go PK? Seriously?
Im glad we have active PVP'ers, its a GOOD thing. Im sure as hell not telling them not to go out there. But I do agree with your previous point.
I was pvping in SP for over 1h last weekend, it was LOADS of fun (thank god for white name, so it was cheap to keep it up), also all of us kept our mouth shut when anyone asked for PVP, so we could keep it up, but its a known place.. People are bound to show up, and PVP isnt meant to last forever and ever.
And about TW I honestly tried opening my mouth about it, but it seems people are way too quick to shout "excuses" or "QQ", but reality is after our first Cata TW's, which had a SERIOUS lack of teamwork and was filled with headless chicken-like rambo's, our attendance dropped to 4X-5X people. Curently going up again bit by bit, but still in the 6X.
We could not beat Cata before, we definetly couldnt beat them with half the numbers and almost all the CS'ers out. We couldnt beat Kylin 80 vs 4X, but these last long fights with AL improved us by SO much in just 2-3 wars, I was really amazed myself. There's some base of teamwork coming out, and once its there, there's only room to go up now.
You want to talk about previous TW's? Fine. We lost and we deserved it, no one would say otherwise.
But people who come from others guilds you mentioned, like myself, know very well what happens there.
I'm in Valhalla for months, we've been thru a lot. From top to bottom, literally, and I have NEVER seen any guild drama, I have NEVER seen anyone say your opinion doesnt matter because you're not an officer, I have NEVER seen anything arrogant coming from anyone in a leadership position, (well, ever since Eoria left at least, lol).
We treat eachother as a group of adults, everyone has their values, their opinion, and just the fact there was never any drama in here makes me soooo happy to be where I am, and never consider any other guild ever again. Which I guess is the reason most people are here also, easy going playing, taking a day at a time.
And damn you for making me type so much.
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PvP in this game is really survival of the strongest. Quite literally, PvP in the game is the following: get good gear, and build your char for survivability (JoSD, 12K HP, the works), and get AD and ironguards. And MAKE SURE you don't do a hybrid build and go PURE for your class. Pure DEX for sins, pure MAG for casters, etc. You get survivability from your gear and defense levels, and the rest of your char's stats must be put into getting as MUCH attack as you can from every single hit.
Because everyone else also can tank your hits, so you need to last long, AD with good timing, and HIT HARD and dispatch your opponents with quick rapport. In other words, PvP is, "Hit very hard and kill within 3 hits, and be sure to have ironguards because everybody else does the same". That isn't a problem really: the attraction in this game comes from 2 things: (1) TW, (2) The relatively large player base and consequentially, the high chance factions being interesting and fun due to the sheer variety of personalities available on vent. World PvP = waste of ironguards.
IMHO, the problem with Valhala is not that they oneshot me, or they kill lowbies (IMHO, griefing is a good thing), but that they are so boring and dumb
And that the whole server seems to put them them on a pedestal for no reason. What has Valhala accomplished really? Before map reset, it was KY and Crim who took on Zulu, and not Val.
After map reset, it's still not Valhala fighting Zulu, so I don't know where they get their reputation from. I don't actually know why people think that Valhala isn't just a n00b faction, because it really is. Valhala, by its PERFORMANCE has shown itself to be no different from any of the newbie factions that recruit 50+. They can't take land in TW. They own no land, so they have no attraction for recruitment (yet people still apply, even though the faction gets absolutely no TW land tribute). They cannot win in any real PvP situation where they have to actually co-ordinate and take down an organized set of players, as shown in yesterday's PWIC trials.
What has Valhala achieved, tell me, that makes it deserve recognition at the same level as Crimson, Kylin, Catalyst, Insanity, and the other big factions? Is it that they held land at the beginning of map reset? Omerta did too. But everybody still laughs at Omerta EVEN IF Omerta is currently occupying territory. Why? Because the impression that Omerta gives off is...n00bish? That's right! So why doesn't Valhala get the same treatment? It deserves the same, OR WORSE.
They ran away from Catalyst and (LOL) attacked Mayhem (???LOLOLOL) and then tried Kylin not once...but twice (or was it even three times??) and LOST? The only reason they didn't attack FLEAU was because that would have made them look SO UTTERLY INCOMPETENT AND MORONIC that it just wasn't worth the land. And who knows, maybe FLEAU would have rolled them too LOL.
So tell me, what has Valhala accomplished that warrants respect at the level of other "big" factions? Or if not that, then what has Valhala got to offer new recruits? Ky, Crimson, Catalyst, Insanity, and other factions have the pull of TW money, and possible help with gear due to just the INSANE amount of money flowing around in those factions. Valhala has...what? TW tribute? No. So what? What is ti that would make somebody apply to Valhala and join it?
Or what would make somebody stay in the most dismally performing guild on the map? VALHALA IS A GHOST OF SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN, and IS NOT one of the factions that deserves recognition as one of our best. LOL Valhala to me is like one of those ****ty noob faction that recruit 30+ on world chat that you wouldn't even touch with 3 condoms on your rod. That is Valhala to me until they PROVE otherwise.
Edit: In summary, Valhala, please disband.I seriously wonder: people who don't RPK, if you play the board game "Sorry!" and you roll the dice so that you land on an opponents piece and send it back to the beginning, do you sincerely apologize and ask everyone if you can have a do-over roll so you can give your victim another chance? It's a god damn game..
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Why would anyone go for Catalyst, or Kylin, or Crimson, or Insanity?
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You know what, I was gonna give reasons NOT to go to any of those guilds, but I'm not gonna do the same as you. Being a jackass isnt my thing.
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I think the reason why people look at Valalala as a joke, is because they made themselves clear that they would easily wipe Cata's 50-60 people off the map. They were so arrogant and co.cky in the beginning, thinking "omdee we haz more OP geared people, we gonna win dis" that they forgot that TW isn't just a "Push down B" kinda thing. Basically, them being hypocrits saying, "QQ Cata had more OP geared people than us QQ wasn't fair QQ" (even though they clearly bragged about it the week before they lost AND the fact it was always less than 60 v 80) made people, including myself, look at them as a bunch of clueless, over confident people.
So how do you expect people to respect a faction that was so full of themselves in the beginning, only turning out to be the first large faction wiped off the map? You ran from Cata, rather than face us and strengthen your coordination/TW skills, and went for smaller factions that you guys thought could Rick Roll right through. This is why I have no sympathy for Valalala and will never give them credit for any of the accomplishments (if any) they receive.
And agreed with the guy above. Disbanding is honestly the best thing to do at this point.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Holy sh*t, why are ppl writing essays in this thread?0
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Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Holy sh*t, why are ppl writing essays in this thread?
It's a petition to get Valhalla to disband. Wanna sign?I AGOREY0 -
I'm pretty sure I hold the record for most essays in a single thread.0
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off-topic, i will note for longknife that you can't boost kd ratio by "killing the same r8+3 wiz over and over" since it's based on unique kills.
otherwise the walls of text here pretty much sum it up. zbzkda also makes a good point about omerta, which from what i've seen is in the same position as valala in terms of public opinion, but for slightly different reasons.
fragil, valala may have changed its ways a bit, but it takes a long time to cleanse the stink of valala's first impression, perhaps long enough that you'd clean it faster by disbanding and reforming. ..and also keeping a tighter leash on the players who are still giving you the rep for smack-talking.
fortunately, you'll be back on the map soon, now that you've followed catalyst's lead in stacking against insanity. or maybe not - i'd be impressed if insanity scraps some of its other wars in order to stonewall valala out of getting land.0
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