Lol pay 2 win

Magicsaber - Dreamweaver

Really, without Reputation sale very hard to get 300k of reputation (even 200k is hard for me, for example).

At my 78 level Wizard has 5217 reputation points only (without CS Wraith Officer's Badges).

Even if my Wizard can get up to 100 reputation points being all day in random fbs or getting Darkness Stamps from bhs, he need about 3000 days to get rank 9 or much less (2000 days only ) to get rank 8.

In any case I not see anything useful for my Wizard from reputation rewards since level 30.

Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver

Magicsaber - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Really, without Reputation sale very hard to get 300k of reputation (even 200k is hard for me, for example).

At my 78 level Wizard has 5217 reputation points only (without CS Wraith Officer's Badges).

Even if my Wizard can get up to 100 reputation points being all day in random fbs or getting Darkness Stamps from bhs, he need about 3000 day to get rank 9 or much less (2000 days only ) to get rank 8.

In any case I not see anything useful for my Wizard from reputation rewards since level 30.

To get R8 - R9 is impossible unless you buy badges... the first really usefull thing I found for my Wizzy was the R4 Robe but only if you are around lvl 60+ when you get it.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Blood_Panda - Raging Tide wrote: »

yes i am aware, the game has change as well.

They notice the normal stuff they have on boutique are not paying the bills enough.
Even if you do CS for new fashion you wouldn't be doing it on a regular basis enough

Wrong, pwe was making a profit before the pack sales began.

rep sale didn't exist yes, but then again there wasn't rank 9 before.

That's the problem, pwe makes new gears that destroys everything else, and then say, oh btw the ONLY way to get it is to cashshop.

For those who don't CS

cheaper alternatives are available for gear

Attendance for 2 decent free rings,
forest wisdom and valley boots cheap version,
free weapons from divine order
if you cant afford rank 9, rank 8 is still decent.
trophy mode capes are free if you can somehow do it.

You cant be competitive without pimped out gears.

Abstractive - Archosaur

Why the hell are you people bashing on Fuzzy ? This guy is one of the better mods. Who the **** cares if you get 1/2-shot by some social failure who put 20k $ in the game ? You're supposed to troll the butter out of the cretins craving acknowledgement and praise just because they pressed the auto-attack/spell button in their dark, sad room and lolwtfpwned you.

I have nothing against cash-shoppers, I even charged 20$ once to gift some nice stuff to a friend so you could say...I'm one of them if you like ?

I stand by Tremblewith's post, although Fuzzy is in NO WAY wrong.

Infernia - Harshlands

Abstractive - Archosaur wrote: »

Why the hell are you people bashing on Fuzzy ? This guy is one of the better mods. Who the **** cares if you get 1/2-shot by some social failure who put 20k $ in the game ? You're supposed to troll the butter out of the cretins craving acknowledgement and praise just because they pressed the auto-attack/spell button in their dark, sad room and lolwtfpwned you.

I have nothing against cash-shoppers, I even charged 20$ once to gift some nice stuff to a friend so you could say...I'm one of them if you like ?

I stand by Tremblewith's post, although Fuzzy is in NO WAY wrong.

Its less bashing Fuzzy and more bashing his unusual "lolz ita allllll fine braw!" attitude. Seriously, I like Fuzzy, hes funny and doesnt do stupid **** like shelly does. But he speaks from such a rare point of view and doesnt seem to understand that despite the good intentions of few, getting anywhere in this game is becoming ****ing impossible.

Even ive rolled a BM for farming now, since ive no plans to convert my assassin to Demon or get a full set of -int gear on her. Its sad I should have to make an alt just so I can play the characters I enjoy.

Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Its less bashing Fuzzy and more bashing his unusual "lolz ita allllll fine braw!" attitude. Seriously, I like Fuzzy, hes funny and doesnt do stupid **** like shelly does. But he speaks from such a rare point of view and doesnt seem to understand that despite the good intentions of few, getting anywhere in this game is becoming ****ing impossible.

Even ive rolled a BM for farming now, since ive no plans to convert my assassin to Demon or get a full set of -int gear on her. Its sad I should have to make an alt just so I can play the characters I enjoy.

I understand your point b:sad i`ve rolled a BM too for farming only... to support my wizzy.. i don`t really enjoy to play it but i must do it to get the money that could make my Main not useless b:sad

Infernia - Harshlands

Alex_Gantz - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I understand your point b:sad i`ve rolled a BM too for farming only... to support my wizzy.. i don`t really enjoy to play it but i must do it to get the money that could make my Main not useless b:sad

Lul. I find BMs kind of fun. Id probably play it fully if I could hit full R9 b:dirty As it is tho, simply grinding with my cleric on a heal macro = win grinding. 200-300k an hour is slow going, but his gear is going to be easier to get than my sins. (Hell be all 4/5APS in Nirvana... eventually b:chuckle (grinding at level 100 is awful, mobs dont drop for **** Q__Q)

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

Fuzzy is one of those people who advises people to farm lunar gear. Farm it yourself if you want and waste 30m in gold mats, but advising people to do it ****ing ****.

Infernia - Harshlands

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

Fuzzy is one of those people who advises people to farm lunar gear. Farm it yourself if you want and waste 30m in gold mats, but advising people to do it ****ing ****.

Actually farming Lunar gear isnt so bad. Farmed my Clerics chest / pants with ease. I ended up selling the gold mats for profit and making OHT gold tho lol. (Lunar Green + 2-4 Tome Frags = OHT Gold. Random stat armor is pr0. I have 50 MP recovery out of combat. Healing takes like 1 pot every 12 mins lol.)

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

Infernia - Harshlands wrote: »

Actually farming Lunar gear isnt so bad. Farmed my Clerics chest / pants with ease. I ended up selling the gold mats for profit and making OHT gold tho lol. (Lunar Green + 2-4 Tome Frags = OHT Gold. Random stat armor is pr0. I have 50 MP recovery out of combat. Healing takes like 1 pot every 2 mins lol.)

I'm talking about the weapons. EMIs are like 30m alone while the ****ing weapon insignia goes for 35m. Farming lunar weapons is plain stupid, and he shouldn't advise anyone else to do it. I'm happy for him to achieve it that way, but his way ofdo things is different and often is not the cheapest way.

Infernia - Harshlands

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm talking about the weapons. EMIs are like 30m alone while the ****ing weapon insignia goes for 35m. Farming lunar weapons is plain stupid, and he shouldn't advise anyone else to do it. I'm happy for him to achieve it that way, but his way ofdo things is different and often is not the cheapest way.

Oh, the weapons. Yes, those are pointless to farm. Back when they were endgame, worth it. Now? Lol. Thats the sort of thing you buy for 5 levels til R8.

Stupid bound Neon Purgatory....

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

Farming a lunar weapon is probably the dumbest thing anyone can do these things. I can buy a +10 lunar weapon for 35mil, last time I was active there was a guy selling a +10 lunar bow, 2 socketed with garnet gems, for 35mil. I saw him try to sell it for over a week, he still probably hasn't sold it.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »

time I was active there was a guy selling a +10 lunar bow, 2 socketed with garnet gems, for 35mil. I saw him try to sell it for over a week, he still probably hasn't sold it.

Hook me up pl0x, I'll pay you 10% fee.

Rawrgh - Raging Tide

The guy was selling in west arch, somewhere next to the apothecary for some reason.


It might have been 40mil, I don't remember exactly. Also might have been lower refined. But it definitely had 2 garnet gems in it.

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide

QQ just had a look, shop not up b:cry

TigerLily - Lost City

If i helped someone farm x4 Back Images and x2 Chromatics Tinders and found out they used it to craft a shiet lvl 95 weapon i would probably delete them of FL for a while lol

I would be pretty mad for a few days, not only did they waste their own time and money, they're **** everyone helping them as well. If you sell all mats a party farms for a Lunar weapon you can buy 2 Insignias instead of just getting one person a weapon. Its not only dumb to waste 90 mil worth of mats on a Lunar weapon, its also very selfish, unless you soloed everything.

But i guess some people dont care about rational choices and coins, they just wanna achieve things the old fashioned way b:sweat

Xarathox - Dreamweaver

Boogiepanda - Raging Tide wrote: »

I'm talking about the weapons. EMIs are like 30m alone while the ****ing weapon insignia goes for 35m. Farming lunar weapons is plain stupid, and he shouldn't advise anyone else to do it. I'm happy for him to achieve it that way, but his way ofdo things is different and often is not the cheapest way.

You guys have it cheap. LGWI's are at a minimum of 50mil on DW. It's actually cheaper to buy an unrefined Lunar weapon than it is to buy the Insignia's.