Perfect Horns
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Svarius - Heavens Tear wrote: »
TW is in-game content, beyond their control. DQ nerf was in-game content, beyond their control. You see where this is going.
I don't blame PWI or the GMs for including them - hell, I'm not here to cast blame at all. What I am saying is to end this before it becomes a problem. So let me make it blatantly clear:IF YOU DO NOT SPEAK OUT NOW, YOU WILL FIND THEM BACK IN THE BOUTIQUE. If you give PWE the message that this is acceptable, I promise you it will come back and bite you.
its out of their control to take them outta the boxes or not whether you like it or not they will be there till the Chinese version decides to remove them and seeing as how they were in the cash shop on the chinese server with no complaining about them im guessing they are there to stay.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ty Nowitsawn
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Svarius - Heavens Tear wrote: »IF YOU DO NOT SPEAK OUT NOW, YOU WILL FIND THEM BACK IN THE BOUTIQUE
I don't think so, they already know our stance and they have already said they will not re-introduce them until/unless there is a filter added so that we don't have to look at them...0 -
/facepalmAlasen - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ya and to change any of that they had to get the DEVS in China to do it.....
Christ, either you people are completely dense, or you must think I am. I know damn well that PWE can't just flip a switch and say "okay, all fixed." What they can do is begin the process to get things corrected - start talking to the devs, make concerns known, and even if it turns out the horns stay in the stash, at least it sends the message to PWE that we don't want them back. At the very least we might get a chat filter so that the root cause of the complaint - that they appear across all channels - is no longer an issue.
But if you just roll over and say "Oh, there's nothing PWE can do/it's just one horn/one horn doesn't bother me," that's as good as writing them the permission slip to bring the damn things back.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I don't think China will ever get rid of them. A filter, maybe some day. However PWE has much bigger fish to fry right now. Like how there is no music in the new areas on the world map !0
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this is true but look at pwi historySvarius - Heavens Tear wrote: »/facepalm
Christ, either you people are completely dense, or you must think I am. I know damn well that PWE can't just flip a switch and say "okay, all fixed." What they can do is begin the process to get things corrected - start talking to the devs, make concerns known, and even if it turns out the horns stay in the stash, at least it sends the message to PWE that we don't want them back. At the very least we might get a chat filter so that the root cause of the complaint - that they appear across all channels - is no longer an issue.
But if you just roll over and say "Oh, there's nothing PWE can do/it's just one horn/one horn doesn't bother me," that's as good as writing them the permission slip to bring the damn things back.
it has proven effective before to complain on forums regardless of who ur complaining about... who cares if they blaming gm incorrectly
they initially fix rubber band after so many complains... it just came back and it wasint ever a feature anyhow
they initially removed horns after forum uproar only to bring them back and give the game populace the finger
they initially stopped duke black red spam due to complaints esp on forum only to bring that back as well.... also like horns chat u cannot filter out... even worse cannot even blacklist... which disrupts things esp doing certain instances where u need to watch chat..
i dont see what the complicated thing here is to figure out
they understand these thing **** off a huge number of population but they dont care..
doesnt matter if the gm in this game have little say so directly what happen or if they cant snap a finger and its changed... the ppl who do understand what the complaints are and have decided **** your complaints0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »this is true but look at pwi history
it has proven effective before to complain on forums regardless of who ur complaining about... who cares if they blaming gm incorrectly
they initially fix rubber band after so many complains... it just came back and it wasint ever a feature anyhow
they initially removed horns after forum uproar only to bring them back and give the game populace the finger
they initially stopped duke black red spam due to complaints esp on forum only to bring that back as well.... also like horns chat u cannot filter out... even worse cannot even blacklist... which disrupts things esp doing certain instances where u need to watch chat..
i dont see what the complicated thing here is to figure out
they understand these thing **** off a huge number of population but they dont care..
doesnt matter if the gm in this game have little say so directly what happen or if they cant snap a finger and its changed... the ppl who do understand what the complaints are and have decided **** your complaints
They fixed rubber-banding oO where was I ???
They did not bring back horns (you're wrong about that)
and thank you for pointing out the thing about duke spam, I just learned something else. Apparently PWE does have control over that too.
If you had any clue how PWE the SUBSIDIARY worked you would know all the things you've talked about is CHINA -- CHINA "brought things back"
here let me break it down for you
the devs developed PW Genesis over in BEIJING, they then send this update to PWE here in the US.
Now, PWE launched Genesis so the minute things you've pointed out are either A) not in their control, or
they 'haven't gotten to it yet'
I did notice how they finally at one point toned down the duke spam, and yes now it is back. So my guess would be THATS PART OF THE CHINA UPDATE THEY RECEIVED HERE IN THE US AT PWE. Now since I'm sure they're being made aware of it, they will most likely remove it AGAIN.
As far as the horns, like I've said before; they were NEVER literally removed, PWE only "EFFECTIVELY" removed them by no longer offering them for sale, you still don't see them for sale, no, didn't think so... BEIJING decided to put A HORN in the supply stash, this is NOTHING PWE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT.
There has not even been a single maintenance SINCE the release of Genesis, surely you cannot expect ANYTHING to change until AT LEAST the first maintenance POST Genesis release!!!
Wait until TUE night, and see if they get rid of some of the duke spam (like they did before). Horns, like I said, I hate to break it to you but NOTHING will change about those and the WHOPPING ONE you get from SS. How about something MUCH MORE MAJOR than this BS about horns and spam, how about the fact that they released a "MAJOR EXPANSION" that does not have any music in the new world map areas. My guess is this would be one of if not THE primary focuses for the first post Genesis release maintenance... Give them time damn b:surrender0 -
*Rolls over*Svarius - Heavens Tear wrote: »Just because it's not "as bad as before" is no reason to roll over and claim it's a non-issue.
Yep, it's a non-issue.
Freaking out on the forums over the fact that some people are leveling up to 65, then paying $5 to get 1 Horn sends a pretty solid message to PWI: some people will b**** about ANYTHING, so there's no point in listening to them.LenieClarke - Heavens Tear wrote: »the key word is "now". Kephras has the right of it, if this is allowed to slide by, things WILL end up where the horns become a blight on the game. they need to be nipped in the bud, while it's still easy.
Meanwhile, I prefer to only complain when I think there's a genuine issue, otherwise I'm just one more member of the QQ brigade. I'll quite happily give praise to PWI when they make good decisions, which they do, and not go bonkers over trivial stuff, like a single Horn in the lvl. 65 supply stash.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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yes the red spam on duke has changed a multitude of timeSparc - Harshlands wrote: »They fixed rubber-banding oO where was I ???
They did not bring back horns (you're wrong about that)
and thank you for pointing out the thing about duke spam, I just learned something else. Apparently PWE does have control over that too.
If you had any clue how PWE the SUBSIDIARY worked you would know all the things you've talked about is CHINA -- CHINA "brought things back"
here let me break it down for you
the devs developed PW Genesis over in BEIJING, they then send this update to PWE here in the US.
Now, PWE launched Genesis so the minute things you've pointed out are either A) not in their control, or they 'haven't gotten to it yet'
I did notice how they finally at one point toned down the duke spam, and yes now it is back. So my guess would be THATS PART OF THE CHINA UPDATE THEY RECEIVED HERE IN THE US AT PWE. Now since I'm sure they're being made aware of it, they will most likely remove it AGAIN.
As far as the horns, like I've said before; they were NEVER literally removed, PWE only "EFFECTIVELY" removed them by no longer offering them for sale, you still don't see them for sale, no, didn't think so... BEIJING decided to put A HORN in the supply stash, this is NOTHING PWE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT.
There has not even been a single maintenance SINCE the release of Genesis, surely you cannot expect ANYTHING to change until AT LEAST the first maintenance POST Genesis release!!!
Wait until TUE night, and see if they get rid of some of the duke spam (like they did before). Horns, like I said, I hate to break it to you but NOTHING will change about those and the WHOPPING ONE you get from SS. How about something MUCH MORE MAJOR than this BS about horns and spam, how about the fact that they released a "MAJOR EXPANSION" that does not have any music in the new world map areas. My guess is this would be one of if not THE primary focuses for the first post Genesis release maintenance... Give them time damn b:surrender
first the spam was everything
then it was turned off completely
then it was back completely
then it was turned off
they it was back again completely
then they toned it down so it only announced certain things
and it was that way til the expansion
its long been past the time where they cared what ppl thought about duke spam
now i would take ur advice about pw china except that ur making a rather blind excuse for every single complaint thats made.. this doesnt tell me ur that rational it tells me ur someone who for one reason or another has to make excuses for them.. wonder why
they spent all this time translating genesis... an expansion that already existed on another version for a while now.... i dont care to hear excuses about needing maintenance after maintenance when given the other complaints its gonna solve nothing
if they cant handle making content for pwi and keep **** stuff up, even presuming they are as innocent and oh so fast to fix mistakes as u make them out to be... we know this is wrong anyways but just to play along with u... then they should have just one version that way they dont need the difficulty of making an international version to keep **** up they can just develop pw china for both china and international players
i fully look forward to the laugh of ur excusing every complaint tho its pretty funny b:laugh0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »yes the red spam on duke has changed a multitude of time
first the spam was everything
then it was turned off completely
then it was back completely
then it was turned off
they it was back again completely
then they toned it down so it only announced certain things
and it was that way til the expansion
its long been past the time where they cared what ppl thought about duke spam
now i would take ur advice about pw china except that ur making a rather blind excuse for every single complaint thats made.. this doesnt tell me ur that rational it tells me ur someone who for one reason or another has to make excuses for them.. wonder why
they spent all this time translating genesis... an expansion that already existed on another version for a while now.... i dont care to hear excuses about needing maintenance after maintenance when given the other complaints its gonna solve nothing
if they cant handle making content for pwi and keep **** stuff up, even presuming they are as innocent and oh so fast to fix mistakes as u make them out to be... we know this is wrong anyways but just to play along with u... then they should have just one version that way they dont need the difficulty of making an international version to keep **** up they can just develop pw china for both china and international players
i fully look forward to the laugh of ur excusing every complaint tho its pretty funny b:laugh
u did nothing but bash him and didnt defend anything.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ty Nowitsawn
Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.0 -
what again am i defending? last i checked im a complaining customer and have nothing to be defending.. inform meEscorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »u did nothing but bash him and didnt defend anything.
and im sorry if he is perfect world international and i offended him
would charging some zen and bashing ppl who make complaints make him less offended?0 -
sparc and escorian, I love you guys, you see eden as the troll anti-gamer who probably doesnt even play they are and are calling them on it. I
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Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »what again am i defending? last i checked im a complaining customer and have nothing to be defending.. inform me
and im sorry if he is perfect world international and i offended him
would charging some zen and bashing ppl who make complaints make him less offended?
the public forums arent the place for you to have a tiffy fit and complain as a customer, contact them directly for that, maybe demand your money back. You just spout anti PW **** over every forum topic I've read through...it's annoying0 -
Leolin - Dreamweaver wrote: »sparc and escorian, I love you guys, you see eden as the troll anti-gamer who probably doesnt even play they are and are calling them on it. I you!
or if they are a player they don't have the ca-hones to post from their main like we do b:chuckle0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »what again am i defending? last i checked im a complaining customer and have nothing to be defending.. inform me
and im sorry if he is perfect world international and i offended him
would charging some zen and bashing ppl who make complaints make him less offended?
uhm, don't worry I used to be just like you (complaining about things in PW left and right). Until I LEARNED that PWE is JUST a subsidiary of Perfect World Beijing. So apparently you do not understand the BUSINESS world as where I do...0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »yes the red spam on duke has changed a multitude of time
first the spam was everything
then it was turned off completely
then it was back completely
then it was turned off
they it was back again completely
then they toned it down so it only announced certain things
and it was that way til the expansion
ever think this was because they have to change it anytime THEY receive an update from BEIJING
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »they spent all this time translating genesis... an expansion that already existed on another version for a while now.... i dont care to hear excuses about needing maintenance after maintenance when given the other complaints its gonna solve nothing
I hate to break it to you but almost NOTHING in the computer industry (software wise [or hardware wise too]) is released without 'bugs', no matter how much testing you do there will ALWAYS still be something, somewhere that will not be as intended.Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »... then they should have just one version that way they dont need the difficulty of making an international version to keep **** up they can just develop pw china for both china and international players
I hope you know how to read Chinese 0 -
u obviously have not looked thru many topics thenLeolin - Dreamweaver wrote: »the public forums arent the place for you to have a tiffy fit and complain as a customer, contact them directly for that, maybe demand your money back. You just spout anti PW **** over every forum topic I've read through...it's annoying
but i think ill decline ur advise mr forum patrolSparc - Harshlands wrote: »uhm, don't worry I used to be just like you (complaining about things in PW left and right). Until I LEARNED that PWE is JUST a subsidiary of Perfect World Beijing. So apparently you do not understand the BUSINESS world as where I do...
as we all know it takes real "balls" to post behind a computer with pixels that show a higher level toon.. get over urself b:chuckleSparc - Harshlands wrote: »or if they are a player they don't have the ca-hones to post from their main like we do b:chuckle
and why should i investigate every little thing about another version of perfect world when i dont play those and i only care about the one i actually play? whether or not pwi got its **** from pw china, which is not what im even debating, the product it brings out has been nothing short of a joke.. if this offends u, like it seems to offend u as much as me posting from a shop alt, then maybe u should reconsider ur sensitivity to these things0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »why should i investigate every little thing about another version of perfect world when i dont play those and i only care about the one i actually play?
Because perfect world Beijing effects PWi in every which way, that's why you should care. So when and or if this game gets completely flushed down the toilet, PWE is not to blame... It's PW Beijing's fault...0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »what again am i defending? last i checked im a complaining customer and have nothing to be defending.. inform me
and im sorry if he is perfect world international and i offended him
would charging some zen and bashing ppl who make complaints make him less offended?
your bashing everything everyone is telling you and yes you do have to defend your argument or you are a troll point blank you come on here qqing not even having the balls to post on your character.Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »u obviously have not looked thru many topics then
but i think ill decline ur advise mr forum patrol
as we all know it takes real "balls" to post behind a computer with pixels that show a higher level toon.. get over urself b:chuckle
and why should i investigate every little thing about another version of perfect world when i dont play those and i only care about the one i actually play? whether or not pwi got its **** from pw china, which is not what im even debating, the product it brings out has been nothing short of a joke.. if this offends u, like it seems to offend u as much as me posting from a shop alt, then maybe u should reconsider ur sensitivity to these things
lol if you consider this game a joke leave.
you called this game a product good think of it that way, say you buy a burger from a fast food place and you didnt like it would you go back to that same hamburger place and eat that same burger again?
get it? good now gtfo.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ty Nowitsawn
Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.0 -
I think the main point was-
There's not really much point in all the hostility, it won't matter anyway
I still wonder personally...do you even play this game? and if so...why? you seem to hate it.
Posting from a main account isnt preaching higher levels, I'm freaking level 86, this is like being nothing in this game. It doesnt even get expensive until 95+
I kind of pity you if you aren't a troll. Obviously you have strong feelings of the game, but everything you do is against helping yourself (or at least doesn't help yourself if not against doing so)
Seriously, send them a ticket or something and bash everything you hate about them right to their faces. It still won't do any good because like he said, this is just an english copy and all, but maybe it'll make you feel better to vent to someone who might sympathize instead of us who simply pities you.0 -
no i dont, even if u keep repeating it i still wont.. because again i dont play pw china i play pw international why do i care about the chinese version when i dont play it? give a good reason as to why i shouldSparc - Harshlands wrote: »ever think this was because they have to change it anytime THEY receive an update from BEIJING
I hate to break it to you but almost NOTHING in the computer industry (software wise [or hardware wise too]) is released without 'bugs', no matter how much testing you do there will ALWAYS still be something, somewhere that will not be as intended.
I hope you know how to read Chinese
and if ur gonna cite something i say please provide some evidence as to where i said it.. like that i expect a 100% bug free game..
still dont care about other versions..Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »Because perfect world Beijing effects PWi in every which way, that's why you should care. So when and or if this game gets completely flushed down the toilet, PWE is not to blame... It's PW Beijing's fault...
as a perfect world international player, again, i only care about whats on this version.. i guess i should repeat this as often as u repeat that because for a person who plays this version it really does not matter.. if they are **** up pwi then the obvious solution is complain about pwi and then stop playing pwi... pw elsewhere is irrelevant0 -
there is no hostility im making complaints, ur two random ppl who are bashing me instead.. though funny enuf i get more ppl agreeing with me than not.. so u get what u give.. simple as thatLeolin - Dreamweaver wrote: »I think the main point was-
There's not really much point in all the hostility, it won't matter anyway
I still wonder personally...do you even play this game? and if so...why? you seem to hate it.
Posting from a main account isnt preaching higher levels, I'm freaking level 86, this is like being nothing in this game. It doesnt even get expensive until 95+
I kind of pity you if you aren't a troll. Obviously you have strong feelings of the game, but everything you do is against helping yourself (or at least doesn't help yourself if not against doing so)
Seriously, send them a ticket or something and bash everything you hate about them right to their faces. It still won't do any good because like he said, this is just an english copy and all, but maybe it'll make you feel better to vent to someone who might sympathize instead of us who simply pities you.
if bashing ppl who complain about the game makes u feel better about urself continue along with ur crusade its just going to go as far as ur suggesting my complaining on the forums does.. learn to ignore it if u dont like ppl complaining about it..0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: ».. get over urself b:chuckle
Obviously you need to get over yourself, that somehow you think your 'main' is worth protecting; what is your main all high 'n' mighty. Or are you just on your high horse because you know that NOT posting on your main will avoid in game ridicule, from someone who may desire to PK you based on your forum idiocy...
No no, you have it backwards; YOU need to get over yourself b:kiss0 -
^- someone who takes the game and forums a lil too seriously b:laughSparc - Harshlands wrote: »Obviously you need to get over yourself, that somehow you think your 'main' is worth protecting; what is your main all high 'n' mighty. Or are you just on your high horse because you know that NOT posting on your main will avoid in game ridicule, from someone who may desire to PK you based on your forum idiocy...
No no, you have it backwards; YOU need to get over yourself b:kiss
im quite humored by the fact that a pixel level can set u off on some tangent
the fact that u are so adamant to defend pwi like some valiant crusader tells me when u come down from ur addiction its gonna be an awful time for u0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »no i dont, even if u keep repeating it i still wont.. because again i dont play pw china i play pw international why do i care about the chinese version when i dont play it? give a good reason as to why i should
and if ur gonna cite something i say please provide some evidence as to where i said it.. like that i expect a 100% bug free game..
still dont care about other versions..
as a perfect world international player, again, i only care about whats on this version.. i guess i should repeat this as often as u repeat that because for a person who plays this version it really does not matter.. if they are **** up pwi then the obvious solution is complain about pwi and then stop playing pwi... pw elsewhere is irrelevant
Ok since you're clearly a very ignorant person I'll just join in the bashing
You're a freaking idiot b:shutup0 -
this wasnt really any form of bashing, it's the fact that the first line you ever used to reply to anything I wrote on this forum, was an insult and a bash aimed at my intelligence. Nothing to do with anything pwi related, strictly personal and hurtful. Yer basically an ***.0
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thats not surprising u were doing that to begin with just trying to hide behind condescending "u r teh stupidz" comments as if i should care about other versions and be as involved in the game every facet of where it comes from as u are xDSparc - Harshlands wrote: »Ok since you're clearly a very ignorant person I'll just join in the bashing
You're a freaking idiot b:shutup0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »thats not surprising u were doing that to begin with just trying to hide behind condescending "u r teh stupidz" comments as if i should care about other versions and be as involved in the game every facet of where it comes from as u are xD
you have done nothing but try to get people to bash you its really rather sad you have nothing better to do then bash players.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ty Nowitsawn
Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.0 -
proof? i actually started this discussion with a pretty scathing criticism of pwi.. of course i dont expect someone who hasnt followed the discussion to see that it was me who was bashed im just returning the gift to senderEscorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »you have done nothing but try to get people to bash you its really rather sad you have nothing better to do then bash players.0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »thats not surprising u were doing that to begin with just trying to hide behind condescending "u r teh stupidz" comments as if i should care about other versions and be as involved in the game every facet of where it comes from as u are xD
Come back when you learn how the BUSINESS world works. Since you're obviously an ignorant idiot PW is a BUSINESS BEFORE it's a game...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidiary0 -
Eden - Raging Tide wrote: »proof? i actually started this discussion with a pretty scathing criticism of pwi.. of course i dont expect someone who hasnt followed the discussion to see that it was me who was bashed im just returning the gift to sender
the proof is in this thread. you have contributed nothing but insulting other players and saying how pwi fails.
i really rather enjoyed the fact you ignored my post before the one you quoted.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ty Nowitsawn
Everything has its beginnings, but it doesn't start at one. It starts long before that... The world is born From zero. The moment zero becomes one is the moment the world springs to life. One becomes 2. 2 becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. taking it all back to one solves nothing. so long as zero remains... One.. Will eventually grow to 100 again.0
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