Claw barb guide

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  • HrunsPanda - Archosaur
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur Posts: 1,136 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    aww dude WHY DID YOU HAVE TO PICK RAGING TIDES D:
    Im so lonely here on HT.. qq.. but no, I decided to stay claw! believe it or not! I will go r9 build for everything but still keep my dex for claws for accuracy and farming (when needed).. and its nice actually to whip out the claws on the hard opponents.. But with my r9 build and claw build, my crit will be insane and will still have the hp to support a DD :p, be tank when i need to.. but eff being a cata.

    And when you use bloodbath + some acc rings, 8k accuracy :)
  • Roar_King - Sanctuary
    Roar_King - Sanctuary Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/roardd.jpg/

    b:laugh
  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    HrunsPanda - Archosaur wrote: »
    And when you use bloodbath + some acc rings, 8k accuracy :)

    that for me leads to 10k acc. b:cute
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    You can still miss quite a bit against r9 s3 archers and sins even with 8K accuracy.b:surrender
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  • IBaMBii - Heavens Tear
    IBaMBii - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Thats just natural.
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  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Roar_King - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/roardd.jpg/

    b:laugh

    lol 30k max damage b:infuriated
  • lythraos
    lythraos Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Roar_King - Sanctuary wrote: »
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/roardd.jpg/

    b:laugh

    Mind if I inquire how the heck did you achieve 30k sparked high end?

    Most I managed to squeeze out was 24,7k:
    +12 peaks with 2x Drakeflames and nice +phys atk bonus;
    r9rr +100 str bonus.
    Total 570 str with Empeeror tome. Still doesnt cut it.

    I mean... HOW ?D:
  • Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lythraos wrote: »
    Mind if I inquire how the heck did you achieve 30k sparked high end?

    Most I managed to squeeze out was 24,7k:
    +12 peaks with 2x Drakeflames and nice +phys atk bonus;
    r9rr +100 str bonus.
    Total 570 str with Empeeror tome. Still doesnt cut it.

    I mean... HOW ?D:

    The secret ingredient... 200% weapon damage bonus from Blood Rush.
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  • lythraos
    lythraos Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Magnanimous_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The secret ingredient... 200% weapon damage bonus from Blood Rush.

    Took me 3 hours of TT spam to come up with that idea (after constantly using bloodrush)

    b:chuckle
  • Roar_King - Sanctuary
    Roar_King - Sanctuary Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I use G16 Fists +12 with 2x Drakeflame Stone. (+40 atk level, +18 vit, double -int).
    Helm and pants G15 for +5 attack level.
    Plate, Wrist and Boots rank 9r3 for +100 str bonus.
    Lunar cape.
    TT99 HA Belt and Necklace.
    Pan'gu Tome.

    Working on Emperor and engraving on rings for phys attack.

    .... and yes Blood Rage is awesome!
  • dreenan
    dreenan Posts: 9
    edited August 2013
    Hi all,
    I have a question regarding Claw Barb Build.
    That is my current build/gear and I am a bit low in HP.
    Should I change something of my Equipment or is it all about refines?
    Thanks for your help.

    http://pwcalc.com/8a99e35b575d2273
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dreenan wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I have a question regarding Claw Barb Build.
    That is my current build/gear and I am a bit low in HP.
    Should I change something of my Equipment or is it all about refines?
    Thanks for your help.

    http://pwcalc.com/8a99e35b575d2273

    Just under 18k isn't too bad. Getting everything up to +7 will add another 1k to your hp. Also add the 3rd socket to your claws using BH rewards.

    R8 ring really is not a great choice of rings for barbs as it doesn't offer any defenses and can't be refined. Upgrading that will help, but that doesn't give you more hp which is what you're looking for.

    I'm kind of stuck as to where to go next on your build because there are so many things I'd have done differently and most the suggestions I have are very expensive overhauls to your build.

    I'd NPC the Striking Dragons and get Regicides or 2x -int G15 or G16s. That way when you get r8r plate you can upgrade to G16s. Striking Dragons refine worse than Deicides, or any other claws/fists, so by +10 Deicides and SDs have almost identical damage and at +11 Deicides will out DD them. Regicides out dd SDs, and +10 SDs are about +8 Regicides while also being much cheaper and having Soul Infect and Vitality adds, which help you survive better.

    I'm at 112 rolls for my r8r plate on my bm so I hate advising anyone to go for it, but most the people I've talked to got it in 5-10 rolls and only about 20m costs. r8r has higher defenses than the G15 plate you are currently using, although the adds will probably not be as defense oriented.

    Since you have r8 rep already you may want to consider going for r9t3 pants to use instead of your G15s. It will give much higher defenses, stats, and refine rate than G15. You then can upgrade your helm to G16 for the increased refine rate and stats.
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  • dreenan
    dreenan Posts: 9
    edited August 2013
    Thanks a lot for your input, Sakubatou.
    May I ask what your equipment looks like?
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dreenan wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I have a question regarding Claw Barb Build.
    That is my current build/gear and I am a bit low in HP.
    Should I change something of my Equipment or is it all about refines?
    Thanks for your help.

    http://pwcalc.com/8a99e35b575d2273



    the "fatal" flaw in the build is having a +10 chest and a +7 hat; a +10 hat gives 400hp more than the other armor pieces.    [/COLOR] disregard this i failed so hard

    If it wasn't for the stones I'd say g16 it and +10 it for even more hp and stats (it's worth it despite the attack lvl loss and you get to have one more g16 piece for when you switch to more tanky gear for pulls etc). However, you have stones. On a general note, I find your gear oversharder/underefined. I guess that you refine with dragon orbs; don't. Get a ton of mirages and event gold (can buy dq and npc them for points), a really nice movie and some wine and start clicking till you get a +8. on average you'll spend around 35m for 0 to +8. that's generally gear refining tip though; at the moment I'd prioritize upgrading the weapon to g16 as it will give you a MASSIVE dps improvement; if you want more defense then you can simply restat to vit. In fact, I'd say refine the hell out of that weapon (e.g. +11) and stat vit, will give you more hp and attack
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  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dreenan wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I have a question regarding Claw Barb Build.
    That is my current build/gear and I am a bit low in HP.
    Should I change something of my Equipment or is it all about refines?
    Thanks for your help.

    http://pwcalc.com/8a99e35b575d2273


    In your case I would upgrade stuff like this:
    http://pwcalc.com/8e18de3d67dcf96b
    Like saku said when u get a -int chest u can upgrade fist to g16
    Lots of room to improve HP and DD power
    And if you get lucky and roll a double -int chest or fist/claws u can keep your ornaments b:victory
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    the "fatal" flaw in the build is having a +10 chest and a +7 hat; a +10 hat gives 400hp more than the other armor pieces. If it wasn't for the stones I'd say g16 it and +10 it for even more hp and stats (it's worth it despite the attack lvl loss and you get to have one more g16 piece for when you switch to more tanky gear for pulls etc). However, you have stones. On a general note, I find your gear oversharder/underefined. I guess that you refine with dragon orbs; don't. Get a ton of mirages and event gold (can buy dq and npc them for points), a really nice movie and some wine and start clicking till you get a +8. on average you'll spend around 35m for 0 to +8. that's generally gear refining tip though; at the moment I'd prioritize upgrading the weapon to g16 as it will give you a MASSIVE dps improvement; if you want more defense then you can simply restat to vit. In fact, I'd say refine the hell out of that weapon (e.g. +11) and stat vit, will give you more hp and attack

    Helmet and chest piece refines the same, doesn't matter which one gets refined first b:nosebleed
  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Things to note:

    Your gear is Lunar. Farm yourself a TT Nirvana set and G16 it (you can more than demolish 3-3 with that setup)

    Put on self buffs

    Farm yourself some G16 fists, as has been said. You can definitely stat down the excess DEX to 180 and vit/mag to 3 and pump str.

    R8r is an expensive option but it will help you keep 5aps.

    If your Warsong belt is tradable I'd trade it for a mdef one and farm a TT99 HA belt so that you can use the G16 boots, which have +% ele res

    Incomparable shards are easily obtained from weekly abba/sot

    Is what I recommend (G16 rolls are approx.): http://pwcalc.com/9f3d269ae8cd2d7f

    Then get the R8r chest you want for -int. Now you can upgrade weapon

    SDs are fine till you can get them G16. Once you have 8-10 rerolls' worth of badges, EOO and coin + what you need to get the base G16 (mold, 60 badges + reroll) turn your SDs into G15 and G16 the G15.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Haila - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Helmet and chest piece refines the same, doesn't matter which one gets refined first b:nosebleed

    bug in pwcalc? o:
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  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25687

    HA G15 set refines for the same except cape, which refines for lower.

    The reason why a +10 helmet gives 400 more HP is because the helmet has +375 HP to begin with, at +0, since it is a helmet and its base stat is +HP
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  • Haila - Sanctuary
    Haila - Sanctuary Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    bug in pwcalc? o:

    free 375hp at +0 b:chuckle
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dreenan wrote: »
    Thanks a lot for your input, Sakubatou.
    May I ask what your equipment looks like?

    Off the top of my head my:
    Standing aps set looks like this.
    My pulling set looks like this.
    And my ideal endgame would be something like this, although upgrade to emperor tome, NW neck and ring, +12s yadda yadda. 4 piece r9 set.
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  • dreenan
    dreenan Posts: 9
    edited August 2013
    Man... and I was quite happy with my gear...
    Have a lot to think about now.
    Thank you
  • Kittennice - Heavens Tear
    Kittennice - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Coolness
    Good to see people are still having fun with different builds in this game
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    *hits himself with a stick*
    oh wait, there's an emoticon for that but i'm too lazy to find itb:surrender
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  • fanfyras
    fanfyras Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle
  • TheeWARIO - Raging Tide
    TheeWARIO - Raging Tide Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    So I'm guessing for the stats build on this guide it would only be dex and str am I right?
    Because I didn't see Rawrgh mentioning the stats build.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    TheeWARIO - Raging Tide wrote: »
    So I'm guessing for the stats build on this guide it would only be dex and str am I right?
    Because I didn't see Rawrgh mentioning the stats build.

    At endgame you'll want at least 301 strength (for axes) and 200 dex (for claws). The main reason the stat build isn't listed is its not really suggested to go aps until 95+ anyways, and you'll probably just do a restat then. If you have decent hand-me-downs from other chars, or are just going to rush the barb up to 100 anyways, then go ahead and just do aim for those stats.

    This is somewhat the standard 3str/2dex build BMs use but its not hard to find 75+ vit if you want it because of gear add ons. I personally did kind of a high dex/str build even before I was an aps build and went 3str/1dex/1vit per level and capped vit at 70, then at 99 I bought an intermediate reset all note and pulled 2 from magic, and about 30 from str and 30 from vit and with the adds from gear it gave me 200 dex, 33 base vit (can't remember with gear), and 340 strength.
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  • TheeWARIO - Raging Tide
    TheeWARIO - Raging Tide Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    At endgame you'll want at least 301 strength (for axes) and 200 dex (for claws). The main reason the stat build isn't listed is its not really suggested to go aps until 95+ anyways, and you'll probably just do a restat then. If you have decent hand-me-downs from other chars, or are just going to rush the barb up to 100 anyways, then go ahead and just do aim for those stats.

    This is somewhat the standard 3str/2dex build BMs use but its not hard to find 75+ vit if you want it because of gear add ons. I personally did kind of a high dex/str build even before I was an aps build and went 3str/1dex/1vit per level and capped vit at 70, then at 99 I bought an intermediate reset all note and pulled 2 from magic, and about 30 from str and 30 from vit and with the adds from gear it gave me 200 dex, 33 base vit (can't remember with gear), and 340 strength.

    yea back years ago when I made my wolf first thing I wanted to do was use claws. Now that I'm back looking at all I had he is lvl 37 and I was using claws from the start and put all his points on dex and str, so he has 180+ str and 170+ dex. (Of course I did carry around an axe cuz of the beast form, but I'm a freaken wolf so I really don't care for turning into a tiger. I feel like I'm disrespecting the wolf LOL)
    But yea I get what your saying on the stats and its what I needed to know thanks man.
  • WrenTigerian - Dreamweaver
    WrenTigerian - Dreamweaver Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    What gear would i be lookin at getting as a sage tanker barb looking to go claw? i already know i need to restat points into dex to use deicides, but any thoughts on what gear i should get to attain 4-5 aps beyond Deicide? i currently wear nirvy stage 2 lionheart bracers, and i have access to a tm69 cape.
  • Walpurga - Dreamweaver
    Walpurga - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,028 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    WrenTigerian - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What gear would i be lookin at getting as a sage tanker barb looking to go claw? i already know i need to restat points into dex to use deicides, but any thoughts on what gear i should get to attain 4-5 aps beyond Deicide? i currently wear nirvy stage 2 lionheart bracers, and i have access to a tm69 cape.

    1. reroll demon

    2. TT99 LA bracer/feet, TT99 HA ornaments, G15 pants, Pan Gu tome, R8r -int plate.

    And you won't be tanking jack with Deicides lol; every granny with G16 will outdamage you
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  • WrenTigerian - Dreamweaver
    WrenTigerian - Dreamweaver Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    im not gonna be usin claw for squad tanking, just soloin tt/lunar/etc. Wal. and why do i have to reroll demon? are sages not allowed to go claw like their demon brethren?

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