New dra... Politics thread

Kaida_Hoshi - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

LOL, ikr, thats why I keep referring to post numbers and not repeating the posts.

you guys, lol

you too you old **** XD

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

I'm a translator.. i can play with words too.. i'm just too honest b:chuckle

Now now, not fair to imply I am being dishonest or merely playing with your words. Stop dodging . . . .

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

Here's some of my PVE knowledge for you old man

http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/boss-wb.php

Yes yes, I know. I spent an evening hunting these down and only Deiciter Black was alive and kicking. Stop avoiding the question.

Proski - Archosaur

Mr. Wood, Mr. Wood over here!

Mr. Wood, just one question?

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

Mr. Wood, Mr. Wood over here!

Mr. Wood, just one question?

Sush, I'm trying to hear Kat and Mango and Aries wiggle out of this one . . . .

Kaida_Hoshi - Archosaur

lol Yall are bad


b:mischievous

AriesWood - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Noone will beat Nemesis. Elusive will attack others, since we want long TWs: win lose or draw. If we get land and Nemesis attacks, we (or at least I) will no show them. Its not worth the time or the effort for 15 minute TWs. I had that on my old server. I had that on this server with my old faction. Yawn.
.

Why would I provide apo for this?

AriesWood - Archosaur

OK.. let me ask this... Proski, Blood... if you were leading Nemesis, or could decide what we will do... what will you do?
What steps you'll take to solve this?

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

OK.. let me ask this... Proski, Blood... if you were leading Nemesis, or could decide what we will do... what will you do?
What steps you'll take to solve this?

Its too late for YOU to fix this without doing things that are highly unappealing to you I would imagine (boot certain # of players, not do any TWs for a period of weeks, disband). Heck, you don't even want to take the lock off apoth, lol.

What you COULD have done is make it about fun TW, not pulling in every rank 9 you could, be selective in who you admit, don't get me started on fake bids, etc. regardless of who was behind them b:lipcurl etc., etc., etc.

Its part of why you are so evil . . . no offense

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

Why would I provide apo for this?

Why wouldn't you? Not that that wasn't a decent attempt with the quote and all, but the problem is the quote proves too much. I put you in a catch 22.

If apoth is used against you, you should provide it if you claim to want to help make TW more competitive between Nemesis and Elusive.

If apoth is not used against you, what possible reason would you have to withhold it?

See what i did there . . . .

AriesWood - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Its too late for YOU to fix this without doing things that are highly unappealing to you I would imagine (boot certain # of players, not do any TWs for a period of weeks, disband). Heck, you don't even want to take the lock off apoth, lol.

What you COULD have done is make it about fun TW, not pulling in every rank 9 you could, be selective in who you admit, don't get me started on fake bids, etc. regardless of who was behind them b:lipcurl etc., etc., etc.

Its part of why you are so evil . . . no offense

I don't think it's too late... but wth dood? mm, let's see... nop, you are too high lvl.. you can't get in.. that's ****.... and if we take low lvls and lvl them up and gear them up.. what? kick them?
and what happens when all those ppl we reject go to 1 faction and they roll over everyone else?

Kaida_Hoshi - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Its too late for YOU to fix this without doing things that are highly unappealing to you I would imagine (boot certain # of players, not do any TWs for a period of weeks, disband). Heck, you don't even want to take the lock off apoth, lol.

What you COULD have done is make it about fun TW, not pulling in every rank 9 you could, be selective in who you admit, don't get me started on fake bids, etc. regardless of who was behind them b:lipcurl etc., etc., etc.

Its part of why you are so evil . . . no offense

I might be a demon wizzie but Im not really evil b:cry

why blood why b:sad

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

Kaida_Hoshi - Archosaur wrote: »

lol Yall are bad


b:mischievous

No Kaida, this would have been bad . . . . .

Kaida_Hoshi - Archosaur wrote: »

b:surrender I dont know how long my legs are Ive never measured them ><

REPLY: I'll measure them for you. In tongue lengths. Now hold still.









See how bad I COULD be?

AriesWood - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Why wouldn't you? Not that that wasn't a decent attempt with the quote and all, but the problem is the quote proves too much. I put you in a catch 22.

If apoth is used against you, you should provide it if you claim to want to help make TW more competitive between Nemesis and Elusive.

If apoth is not used against you, what possible reason would you have to withhold it?

See what i did there . . . .

old it for the 'good' of other factions, so they can have fun TW's against you b:chuckle
Don't give you an advantage

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

I don't think it's too late... but wth dood? mm, let's see... nop, you are too high lvl.. you can't get in.. that's ****.... and if we take low lvls and lvl them up and gear them up.. what? kick them?
and what happens when all those ppl we reject go to 1 faction and they roll over everyone else?

Who says you have to keep taking members? You know, there are some factions that don't take new members from time to time.

Its like you give everyone the birth right to be in Nemesis. Or if you don't take them you are somehow depriving them of something. Ugh, if I didn't know better, I'd think you think of yourselves as guardians of the gates of heaven, which again is something thats a little egomaniacle.

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

old it for the 'good' of other factions, so they can have fun TW's against you b:chuckle
Don't give you an advantage

There's a typo or something in there somewhere, but if what you are saying is to give it to all factions? Absolutely, why not?

AriesWood - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

Who says you have to keep taking members? You know, there are some factions that don't take new members from time to time.

Its like you give everyone the birth right to be in Nemesis. Or if you don't take them you are somehow depriving them of something. Ugh, if I didn't know better, I'd think you think of yourselves as guardians of the gates of heaven, which again is something thats a little egomaniacle.

It's exactly the opposite of that...
We don't think we are too good for anyone to join... if you meet our lvl req and abid by our rules, you migth be welcome...

AriesWood - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

There's a typo or something in there somewhere, but if what you are saying is to give it to all factions? Absolutely, why not?

Lvl 6 apoth for everyone
get here

http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/boss-wb.php

Kaida_Hoshi - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

No Kaida, this would have been bad . . . . .



REPLY: I'll measure them for you. In tongue lengths. Now hold still.









See how bad I COULD be?

b:laugh hahahaha very bad

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

It's exactly the opposite of that...
We don't think we are too good for anyone to join... if you meet our lvl req and abid by our rules, you migth be welcome...

No, and here it might just be the language difference, because I said just the opposite.

You do not deny anyone. To the contrary, by your posts you've shown that you pretty much have an open door to nemesis to all that want to apply. My point is this, however: why is that so? Why does it have to be so? Stop recruiting. Not because of their level or gear or anything else. But because you are strong enough to TW with the whole server now.

At one point I believe Narla closed recruiting except in exceptionally rare cases. And we were fine. The world didn't end. We certainly kept winning TWs. And I think the motivation might very well have been to keep all the lvl 100s from applying there and depleting all the other TW factions.

AriesWood - Archosaur

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur wrote: »

No, and here it might just be the language difference, because I said just the opposite.

You do not deny anyone. To the contrary, by your posts you've shown that you pretty much have an open door to nemesis to all that want to apply. My point is this, however: why is that so? Why does it have to be so? Stop recruiting. Not because of their level or gear or anything else. But because you are strong enough to TW with the whole server now.

At one point I believe Narla closed recruiting except in exceptionally rare cases. And we were fine. The world didn't end. We certainly kept winning TWs. And I think the motivation might very well have been to keep all the lvl 100s from applying there and depleting all the other TW factions.

Narla was almost at 200 members at the time

BLOODMYSTIC - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

Narla was almost at 200 members at the time

Regardless - does nemesis need 200 members? That's 70% of the server at the moment, ijs

Proski - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

OK.. let me ask this... Proski, Blood... if you were leading Nemesis, or could decide what we will do... what will you do?
What steps you'll take to solve this?

lol first of all I wouldn't have even let it get to that point, each land you hold to me just says 1 more week you guys stuck to a boring plan that does nothing for fun tw's, literally nothing. elusive put together 2 hour wars on a 150-300 mirage diet, how the **** could nemesis still be trying to get more land before considering actually fighting somebody or doing something to create a 2 hour war? and when I say this you have to think of yourselves as you are without the help of zulusive, if you rely on us to just bring the fun while you "secure" 1k that in itself is admission of a different goal. you should be asking yourselves these questions, not us. elusive could hardly even go 2 weeks without its members fighting to get those TW's again, if nemesis can go 10 blood might just be right and you guys simply are the players we always figured you to be.

i look at what "elusive/zulusive" left on the map and smile, cause THERES NO LAND there, but good because its not about the tangibles. how did the #1 thing people talk most about since august be something that hasnt ever got more than 3 lands? don't ask what I would do when you should know

AriesWood - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

lol first of all I wouldn't have even let it get to that point, each land you hold to me just says 1 more week you guys stuck to a boring plan that does nothing for fun tw's, literally nothing. elusive put together 2 hour wars on a 150-300 mirage diet, how the **** could nemesis still be trying to get more land before considering actually fighting somebody or doing something to create a 2 hour war? and when I say this you have to think of yourselves as you are without the help of zulusive, if you rely on us to just bring the fun while you "secure" 1k that in itself is admission of a different goal. you should be asking yourselves these questions, not us. elusive could hardly even go 2 weeks without its members fighting to get those TW's again, if nemesis can go 10 blood might just be right and you guys simply are the players we always figured you to be.

i look at what "elusive/zulusive" left on the map and smile, cause THERES NO LAND there, but good because its not about the tangibles. how did the #1 thing people talk most about since august be something that hasnt ever got more than 3 lands? don't ask what I would do when you should know

To be fair.. we got most of those lands when we didn't have this many members.. we were a small faction at teh time... and we got them after 2 hr TW's with Darkside.

Proski - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

To be fair.. we got most of those lands when we didn't have this many members.. we were a small faction at teh time... and we got them after 2 hr TW's with Darkside.

what happened after darkside quickly proved to be a flop though? lol, you guys coulda back tracked away from 1k and come fight near phoenix and everybody esle too

AriesWood - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

what happened after darkside quickly proved to be a flop though? lol, you guys coulda back tracked away from 1k and come fight near phoenix and everybody esle too

We wanted 1k.. duh, and at teh time we needed to protect it.
We don't seem to be able to do anything right according to you. So, i come to you and ask you.
This is not about what happened or how good Elusive is.. this is about what we'll do.

Tamias - Archosaur

b:embarrass

Um is it just me or was I the only one who paid attention to the map at the start of Nem? To be fair, Narla after that no showed in favor of giving Darkside TW's so... ><

And this was after maybe 3 weeks? Probably yeah, you tore though some smaller factions but after that and when you struck old Narla land there was for the most part no shows iirc. I'll have to go back to my old SS to check the map stats but I'm pretty sure after a little while you just hit a few no shows on some of that land crawling upwards 1k *goes though her folders to check*

b:surrender this is not flamebaiting or starting drama, this is from what I very vaguely remembered from those foggy months.

lol and before Aries' edit I saw "we wanted 1k duh We can" when I was posting O_O

Proski - Archosaur

AriesWood - Archosaur wrote: »

We wanted 1k.. duh
We can

and to surround the whole thing despite there being no real threat, challenge, or excitement to it, while only bidding for the "fun" tw's because you had to help phoenix, and this very recent set of wars only because you found the confidence to in 11 rank9s. 11.

do you not get it? ****ing hell, lol. this is a hopeless cause, just enjoy taking over the map and when you guys get bored come talk to me in a few months

AriesWood - Archosaur

Tamias - Archosaur wrote: »

b:embarrass

Um is it just me or was I the only one who paid attention to the map at the start of Nem? To be fair, Narla after that no showed in favor of giving Darkside TW's so... ><

And this was after maybe 3 weeks? Probably yeah, you tore though some smaller factions but after that and when you struck old Narla land there was for the most part no shows iirc. I'll have to go back to my old SS to check the map stats but I'm pretty sure after a little while you just hit a few no shows on some of that land crawling upwards 1k *goes though her folders to check*

b:surrender this is not flamebaiting or starting drama, this is from what I very vaguely remembered from those foggy months.

lol and before Aries' edit I saw "we wanted 1k duh We can" when I was posting O_O

Justa friendly conversation here
Yeah, idk why mi first post deleted most of what i wrote qq, so i had to write it again
And yes.. we satretd at the bottom of the map because it was the only place we had a chance at getting land at the time.. cause ti was like 30 of us. But we always planned to go up to 1k

AriesWood - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

and to surround the whole thing despite there being no real threat, challenge, or excitement to it, while only bidding for the "fun" tw's because you had to help phoenix, and this very recent set of wars only because you found the confidence to in 11 rank9s. 11.

do you not get it? ****ing hell, lol. this is a hopeless cause, just enjoy taking over the map and when you guys get bored come talk to me in a few months

Look man... you know i like you.. but if you don't have anything constructive to say, just don't say anyhting.

And, no.. don't think we'll do that.. but ty for teh suggestion

Martiin - Archosaur

Proski - Archosaur wrote: »

and to surround the whole thing despite there being no real threat, challenge, or excitement to it, while only bidding for the "fun" tw's because you had to help phoenix, and this very recent set of wars only because you found the confidence to in 11 rank9s. 11.

do you not get it? ****ing hell, lol. this is a hopeless cause, just enjoy taking over the map and when you guys get bored come talk to me in a few months

Can elusive please go to the hopefully new PvP server IF it happens? I think you have easily made your point with the original elusive and just about almost did again with zulusive. If the only competition leaves, I am sure both nemesis will be happy with their game style and we will also cause nobody 30+ can be blue named b:dirty

It's a thought though, I don't know how strongly you and other elusive feel about this server. I mean personally, I have had all the fun I could have here. My expectations for the server were high and arch came nowhere close to it and I have come to accept this fact. I think most of us need to accept this also.

Well you mention 11 rank9's. There will be more of course, hopefully in all guilds. But like blood said, if there is nobody to use it on...whats the point? Elusive leaves, pk is non existent(end game atleast). I see a few immunity and texas, but it comes nowhere close. Either elusive is outside west or nemesis. TW, I don't know, seems the smaller guilds are enjoying themselves, as for nemesis, I don't care...they seem to be having fun.

Come onnn proski....new server, new drama and nobody with rank9 gear so people like you and me can stomp in PvP with +3 gear b:victory