Is it still worth saving for a legendary pet...

Aniella - Harshlands

Uh then u can tell meh, why the fc squad kicked the 91 herc veno 2 inv me? i have no herc ( hp build).

atm u don't have 2 PAY 2 PLAY!

Mauntille - Heavens Tear

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

Uh then u can tell meh, why the fc squad kicked the 91 herc veno 2 inv me? i have no herc ( hp build).

atm u don't have 2 PAY 2 PLAY!

The point was never that the herc makes the veno, it's that the herc compliments the veno. There are plenty of fail venos with hercs and fail venos without hercs. But with the way squads function, a skilled herc veno will generally be chosen over a skilled non-herc veno. If a veno is known to be fail, they will obviously be passed up.

And who said anything about paying to play? Plenty of people get their herc/nix's from in game money only.

But when talking about is a legendary pet worth it, the answer, imho, is undoubtedly yes. No one debates that they are superior. And if used correctly, you can make back the coin spent on them and more rather quickly.

Aniella - Harshlands

lol well a bit supid i knew peps spend 2 years and even 200dollar on pets. it easy get good pets w just few mills.

herc can't longer solo "best worth bosses in tt" XD nix is 1 hit in pking, peps w rank 1 hit em.b:chuckle. so now legedary pets are not so Op anylonger.

so i better had saved those money or time <.<

Mauntille - Heavens Tear

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

lol well a bit supid i knew peps spend 2 years and even 200dollar on pets. it easy get good pets w just few mills.

There are many ways to raise money to get a herc/nix. There's even a sticky here to help decide whether to get gold or buy SoF/Feathers directly. The method to getting one should be irrelevant. The cost is a factor, and it should be the point of the investor to pursue the least expensive channel of acquisition for them. You can get a good pet for free. Walkers, sawflies, eldergoths, wanderers, scorpions, and more are examples of those. However, you have to compare what you can get out of them with what you can get out of a herc. There are very very few occasions in which a free pet outshines a herc. If you plan on getting legendary skills for a free pet, you may as well sell them and put that coin towards a herc/nix fund. Play the markets correctly, and it may even pay for the pet.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

herc can't longer solo "best worth bosses in tt" XD nix is 1 hit in pking, peps w rank 1 hit em.b:chuckle. so now legedary pets are not so Op anylonger.

The herc can still solo a good portion of TT; a majority of it if you duo with a cleric. All of 1-X is soloable. The only bosses I haven't managed to solo/duo in 2-X are Ancient Evil (although I've heard of some who can), and 2-3 Cosmo (which very well may be possible now, I just haven't had a need to try him in awhile). For 3-1 the only 2 that aren't soloable are the GBA boss and Steelation. Steelation was never worth anything anyway, so there's really no loss there. The GBA boss may not be worth it anymore anyway as people start going for rep for their chest pieces. 3-2 you can still solo Coredash, Djin, Deathflow, and the Snake boss; similar in 3-3. However, I don't know many venos who solo'd the other bosses before the TT changes anyway, so calling the TT nerf as a reason to not get a herc really doesn't make sense to me. Also, soloing TT was never the way to make the most money with a herc.

As a side note, the above list is not meant to be exhaustive. This is just what I've been able to do and there are venos far more skilled than I am who I'm sure can do more.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying "nix is 1 hit in pking" as my nix has never 1-hit anyone and the people who could 1-hit my nix know to go after the veno herself and have good enough gear that they can ignore the nix. Regardless, it's still considered the top pvp pet.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

so i better had saved those money or time <.<

This still doesn't address the point that those with hercs commonly make: you can make back the money fairly easily. It's an investment in a valuable tool. If you get the tool but don't use it properly, of course it won't be worth it to you. It's important to explore the options that a legendary pet presents to you and best apply what you have.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary

It is always worth saving up if not for sqd. your own self makes getting coin easier.I used mine to kill the boss at Tai Chi Island for 2 of my faction mates.

Aniella - Harshlands

u guys alwast stuck, o.o may u need htink more about the furture , like i do. XD And w i solo tt - i need 2 pay for pet food +rep so less money QQ.
u can solo those tt w 100 herc:

tt60 and tt70 and few in tt80 and tt1-1.
i did tt 2-3 w my sis we where 2 venos healing herc. it died 3 times XD and was close 2 die 8 times at last boss. xD


tt have Op bosses - one of em can 5-8k hit u w aoe. xD so u wil NEVER be able make as much as u did before. So yeha u lose more then u use there tho xD but whatever.

"I did not mean that nix 1 hit PPl, but get kileed by 1 hit" XD

<.< lol my sis's nix was 1 hit XD rank archer lolb:laugh Well we all wil have probs keep pet alive, If pwi makes higer rank on stuff like rank 16+

Mauntille - Heavens Tear

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

u guys alwast stuck, o.o may u need htink more about the furture , like i do. XD

You have no idea what people think. Just from looking at the posts on both sides of the arguement, I'd say that at least a good portion of the regular posters are well aware of their out of game life and have it more or less squared away.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

And w i solo tt - i need 2 pay for pet food +rep so less money QQ.

Pet food? If you're at the level where you're solo'ing TT, you should really have a tome. If your pet is dying so much that you need to feed him, then you're doing something wrong. You can do a lot in TT without a herc dying. Perfect cookies are cheap anyway as they can be made from tokens.

And repairs? The herc is the one getting beat up, not you. What's your repair cost? Popping an extra heal on the herc after the boss goes down and minimal degregation on your weapon? Every time I've solo'd TT the DQ drops have more than paid for repairs, even if AoEs are involved. If you think venos have bad repair bills, try playing a barb, or really any class that gets hit.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

u can solo those tt w 100 herc:

tt60 and tt70 and few in tt80 and tt1-1.
i did tt 2-3 w my sis we where 2 venos healing herc. it died 3 times XD and was close 2 die 8 times at last boss. xD

I won't repeat my list of soloable TT bosses, but it can do more than what you've said it can. tt{6,7,8}0 is vague as the mats can span multiple instances. Also, 2-3 is tt90.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

tt have Op bosses - one of em can 5-8k hit u w aoe. xD so u wil NEVER be able make as much as u did before. So yeha u lose more then u use there tho xD but whatever.

So skip those bosses and do what you can solo? Give a friend your instance for the bosses you can't do? Bring in a full squad to help you? The major paint point for venos was the GBA boss since it used to be a snoozefest and is now [most likely] impossible to solo as a veno. However, since the price of GBAs have skyrocketed, consumers have turned to less expensive alternatives. Many go for molds; others go for rank. Even if the boss was soloable, with the market the way it is, I'm not convinced that it would be a decent money maker.

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

"I did not mean that nix 1 hit PPl, but get kileed by 1 hit" XD

<.< lol my sis's nix was 1 hit XD rank archer lolb:laugh Well we all wil have probs keep pet alive, If pwi makes higer rank on stuff like rank 16+

So by this logic only pets that can not be 1-hit by a rank DD class can be considered for pvp?

Aniella - Harshlands

No all pets can be kiled by those rank ppl, if thay have +12 tho xD may not herc xD but its rare ppl pk w herc <.<

Mauntille - Heavens Tear

So then why is a nix getting 1-hit by a +12 rank DD a reason to not get one?

Aniella - Harshlands

Mauntille - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So then why is a nix getting 1-hit by a +12 rank DD a reason to not get one?

no, but if pets are 1 hit, i think all venos wil have prob 2 pk, XD i seen so many relying on pet xD so w/o it o.o uh then yea. what are venso w/o pet? xD lol 80% less dg then.
And i think u know urself that nix use be kiled before the veno xD. PPl are not stupid:P they learn fast. if pet do more dg then veno, they learn that keel pet fist XD. Happen alot 2 me that they killl pet before me.<.<

Mauntille - Heavens Tear

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

no, but if pets are 1 hit, i think all venos wil have prob 2 pk, XD i seen so many relying on pet xD so w/o it o.o uh then yea. what are venso w/o pet? xD lol 80% less dg then.

If your pet is 80% of your damage, then I'd say there's something very wrong with the veno...

But yes, any veno worth her salt should know how to operate without a pet.

Mauntille - Heavens Tear

Since you edited while I was posting...

Aniella - Harshlands wrote: »

And i think u know urself that nix use be kiled before the veno xD. PPl are not stupid:P they learn fast. if pet do more dg then veno, they learn that keel pet fist XD. Happen alot 2 me that they killl pet before me.<.<

It depends on the person and their gear. I went toe to toe with GTIMIKEE in tw and knew full well to shoot me and ignore the bird. It became a 1-shot kill instead of a 2 shot (one for the nix and one for me), meaning he could snipe the next person that much faster.

As for stupid: if you can kill the veno while ignoring the pet, why would you waste time on the pet? It all depends on whether they're skilled enough and/or geared well enough to take a hit.

Aniella - Harshlands

well im one hit m if its 9x sin or rank archer XD.

lol i killed peps w/o pet 0.0 but take longer time tho XD cuz im vit veno-low magatk.
but venos are made for have pet, even if it sux on dg it stil do an impornat part. XD and i hope THEY not ** this server w get higer rank gear.
Cuz then venos wil not be more then weak shiit stuff.

pet for me is like a skills- w/o it its same as lose a skils u use alot. xD

But whateverb:chuckle its alot diff pw games, on" perfect world vandetta" u get herc/nix free LOl but there they are like dust xD cuz veno more op then pet LOL.

XD kinda fun cuz need pk w7o any pet help there.
Venos like wiz b:chuckle. but privat server is not so fun,;/ cuz no goal there, nice for play 2 test things tho XD