fix that tt yet?

Nyxya - Harshlands

was wondering when you guys gonna fix tt boss...specially 3-3??!!?
i need green mats and gold mats as well ..and that boss can't be farmed anymore for so long now.... last time i went to "help" a friend i wasted 150k charm,10 sutra power,10iron guard, 100 hp pots event for 2 boss only ....genie and emperor ...and neither dropped gold.... not to mention endless party wipe and ****..

so now is impossible find party to kill that boss...everyone goes "i want help but i need charm for tw...i don't got charm...etc etc"

we supposed to buy gold from shop with cips with out ever have a chance to play the game and farm the mats actually? may i suggest put green mats in shop too since that boss is impossible to farm as...far?

VlLKASS - Sanctuary

They not changing it.

PetMe - Raging Tide

they shouldn't change it, leave it as is so only the people who have learned how to play can actually farm it. i'm only 92 and have tanked a full 3-2/3-3, get a squad at the right level and you should have no trouble at all in there IF they know how to play their class.

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear

PetMe - Raging Tide wrote: »

they shouldn't change it, leave it as is so only the people who have learned how to play can actually farm it. i'm only 92 and have tanked a full 3-2/3-3, get a squad at the right level and you should have no trouble at all in there IF they know how to play their class.

I bet ur squad wiped about 10 times, have four 5aps users, or you're lying through your furry face.

Marche - Harshlands

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I bet ur squad wiped about 10 times, have four 5aps users, or you're lying through your furry face.

im going to go with the last option u know the furry face one due to last time i checked seal and random aggro happen in 3-3 do they not? me thinks the fail server barbie ish trying to sound cool next he will say sumthing like YA WELL I R PROZ CSer im always charmed blaa blaa blaaa every one on RT izzz pro man blaaa blaa blaa b:chuckleb:chuckle

i gave up farming HH waste of time and money now and the amount of party deaths just isnt worth it

bright side HH3-3 green mats will prob go up in priceb:cute

Okeano - Harshlands

Marche - Harshlands wrote: »

bright side HH3-3 green mats will prob go up in priceb:cute

F that >_> I still need those mats.

Marche - Harshlands

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

F that >_> I still need those mats.

i would helps u farm but im lazy and ura meany b:sadb:sad

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

F that >_> I still need those mats.

I remember when I needed Tsu's Ghost Mask, what a pain in the *** that was and man they were overpriced.


Glad I got my 99 chest before the new 3-2/3-3.

Okeano - Harshlands

Marche - Harshlands wrote: »

i would helps u farm but im lazy and ura meany b:sadb:sad

Meany? D= I gave back the thingys you dropped teh other dayz.

Marche - Harshlands

Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »

Meany? D= I gave back the thingys you dropped teh other dayz.

u haaaaaaate targetz me in PvP Q_Q i swear every time ur in the god damn area im just like well im ****ed second i say that bam i r dead or dieing

Nyxya - Harshlands

tt was a huge pain in *** before because of super low drop rates..you go waste lot of time and not see 1 gold from all t33 boss..only time was worth farm tt33 in like full team was when double drops were on but that was like years ago....
increase boss difficulty from 5 to 10...not to 10 more like 20...and still have low drop rate...help game play how? i think like only way to farm tt 33 is to get 3-4 bm-sins with 4-5 dps...who can kill bosses in seconds... so ok is possible farm tt
WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE PLAYERS??!!b:angryb:angry

Silchas_ruin - Dreamweaver

So by "fix", you mean reinstate easy-breezy mode? Yeah, it really sucks there's something thats actually a challenge to do in this game now :P

Woneo - Harshlands

Okeano is just too pro for you marche b:dirty

Marche - Harshlands

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

tt was a huge pain in *** before because of super low drop rates..you go waste lot of time and not see 1 gold from all t33 boss..only time was worth farm tt33 in like full team was when double drops were on but that was like years ago....
increase boss difficulty from 5 to 10...not to 10 more like 20...and still have low drop rate...help game play how? i think like only way to farm tt 33 is to get 3-4 bm-sins with 4-5 dps...who can kill bosses in seconds... so ok is possible farm tt
WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE PLAYERS??!!b:angryb:angry

+1 if ur going to increase boss's difficulty at least be nice enough to increase drop rates we know its not hard we know u can GMs hows abouts it

FRANKY REEAAAAAD DISS!!!!!!!!!! i will cry if u dunt b:sad

Marche - Harshlands

Woneo - Harshlands wrote: »

Okeano is just too pro for you marche b:dirty

pfffffffttttttttttttttttt >.> ya ok i can agree to that

Okeano - Harshlands

It's just that giant "Kick me" sign about your head D=. I'm just a fail fish that Rambos sh*t >_>.

ThanosQRt - Dreamweaver

am I the only one that thinks that

a)not every player should get the best, there have to be some things that require A LOT of effort to get

b)the mats are tradeable for a reason/you dont have to farm the bosses that drop the mats you want/chips are there also for a reason?

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear

Silchas_ruin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So by "fix", you mean reinstate easy-breezy mode? Yeah, it really sucks there's something thats actually a challenge to do in this game now :P

It's not a challenge it's just a **** fest for skilled squadmates who dont have great refines.

They basically changed it from Skill > Gear to Gear > Skill.

Easy Breezey? You say that like every boss ALWAYS dropped gold mats.

Marche - Harshlands

Silchas_ruin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So by "fix", you mean reinstate easy-breezy mode? Yeah, it really sucks there's something thats actually a challenge to do in this game now :P

drop rates for 3-3 my friend now u see why it ****'s us off tbh when a boss as crazy as my ex gf and butt **** a squad like 15 times b4 it dies and all it drops is like 1 green and 2488394820 blue mats u tend to give up ijs its not so much a challenge as justa ****in ***** to do and its not worth the charm ****/dolls/exp lose/time

Giant Beast's Crimson Horn 0.6667%
Giant Beast's Crimson Horn 13.3333%
Empire's Sigh 0.6667%
Monarch's Will 13.3333%
Evil Minion's Burning Heart 22.2222%
Ghost Lord's Protection 0.8333%
Ghost Lord's Dark Aura 16.6667%
Big Golden Sculpture 22.4214%
Big Luminostone 23.4891%
Mirage Celestone 3.3087%
Sign of Twilight 16.6667%
Leaf of Unicorn Forest 6.4061%
Stone of the Scarred 5.3384%


for ****s and giggles here ish the red mat drop rates
Golden Mask 0.0067%
Heart of Nature 0.0042%
Twilight Scepter 0.0056%

Magiere - Dreamweaver

SgtSIaughter - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It's not a challenge it's just a **** fest for skilled squadmates who dont have great refines.

They basically changed it from Skill > Gear to Gear > Skill.

This is exactly where you are wrong :
now its skill, preparation and timing > gear.

Have you not seen how countless lvl 100+ folks wipe at 3-1 Collus,
but a sqaud of high 80s and low 90s does it with relative ease, because they know how to use their skills?(check dungeon section of the forum)

Except for 3-3 Arma which really is a pain in the pooper, i like the changes...i can actually make money farming green mats again after all those 5 aps ppl solo-farmed TT and brought mat prices down to 50k ea.

@ Marche if you wanna come up with numbers, at least use the "REAL" droprates,thanks to several dropcalculations its above 10% for each Goldmat.

Marche - Harshlands

... 2x post opps

Marche - Harshlands

Magiere - Dreamweaver wrote: »

This is exactly where you are wrong :
now its skill, preparation and timing > gear.

Have you not seen how countless lvl 100+ folks wipe at 3-1 Collus,
but a sqaud of high 80s and low 90s does it with relative ease, because they know how to use their skills?(check dungeon section of the forum)

Except for 3-3 Arma which really is a pain in the pooper, i like the changes...i can actually make money farming green mats again after all those 5 aps ppl solo-farmed TT and brought mat prices down to 50k ea.

@ Marche if you wanna come up with numbers, at least use the "REAL" droprates,thanks to several dropcalculations its above 10% for each Goldmat.

3-1 is easy i can stilll solo it oh wait thats i just did lol 3-1 is like the special Olympics version of the HH 3 set

we iz talking about 3-3 here u know the one thats a sucks i would love to see ur low 9xs high 8xs do it ^-^

as well its not that the high lvls cant use their skills its...wait what am i saying look at RT a CSd server with ppl to **** to know how to do anything i mean barbs thinking they can tank in human and EAs who think they can tank @_@ allll cuz they oracled loloololololol no but seriously most of the old higher ups have the skills sucks they all quit huh

oh and those are PWIs drop rates LOL the ones that say REAL on the data base PWI dosnt go by those thats like PW-MY PWI has the lowest settings hun check ur info u try to correct

Nyxya - Harshlands

dude if u kill 3-1 gba boss with a lvl 80 party i wiling delete my account go solitaire so pls cut the ****...i was there like few times and beside i pass endless chi to tank and cleric for bb and invoke+rebuf....i was agro like hell i just don't die 1 hit.. a lvl 80 party would be like 1 hit... only ppl who can farm tt 33 are 5 dps ppl and those are a hand full

i got demon lend hand i gave chi every 15 sec i use cloud eruption and white tea to keep party alive... pls before post any other **** go make video how you kill gba boss 3-1 with a 80+party...as was intended to be for so many years...i wait movie anxious

this is all about gears they push cash op to max in absolute greed-this is not about skill anymore

you go make that video and i ///bow

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

was wondering when you guys gonna fix tt boss...specially 3-3??!!?
i need green mats and gold mats as well ..and that boss can't be farmed anymore for so long now.... last time i went to "help" a friend i wasted 150k charm,10 sutra power,10iron guard, 100 hp pots event for 2 boss only ....genie and emperor ...and neither dropped gold.... not to mention endless party wipe and ****..

so now is impossible find party to kill that boss...everyone goes "i want help but i need charm for tw...i don't got charm...etc etc"

we supposed to buy gold from shop with cips with out ever have a chance to play the game and farm the mats actually? may i suggest put green mats in shop too since that boss is impossible to farm as...far?

any real tw capable party WILL be able to farm 3-3 arma. any party who can't farm arma will be as useful as chi posts in tw.

Marche - Harshlands

Nyxya - Harshlands wrote: »

dude if u kill 3-1 gba boss with a lvl 80 party i wiling delete my account go solitaire so pls cut the ****...i was there like few times and beside i pass endless chi to tank and cleric for bb and invoke+rebuf....i was agro like hell i just don't die 1 hit.. a lvl 80 party would be like 1 hit... only ppl who can farm tt 33 are 5 dps ppl and those are a hand full

i got demon lend hand i gave chi every 15 sec i use cloud eruption and white tea to keep party alive... pls before post any other **** go make video how you kill gba boss 3-1 with a 80+party...as was intended to be for so many years...i wait movie anxious

this is all about gears they push cash op to max in absolute greed-this is not about skill anymore

you go make that video and i ///bow

b4 they screwd hh i did it with ScarletSkies and Sam_ma_dork but yea like Nyxya said now bs anda half sheet i will quit this game if u pull that off on vid and dont die 3920480923 times but oh wait im already quiting LOL


edit* @ Kiyoshi apparently your as about as intelligent as Silchas_ruin is LOL we have ALL already stated that farming 3-3 is NOT impossible its just extremely difficult so much so that we just say **** this i have burned a charm anda half the cleric has lost 920842093840238exp Peace

the most i stated besides agreeing with nyxya is if ur gonna up the difficulty up the drop rate thats all

ofcourse i guess Nyxya and i cant be PvE gods like the rest of you guys

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Marche - Harshlands wrote: »

drop rates for 3-3 my friend now u see why it ****'s us off tbh when a boss as crazy as my ex gf and butt **** a squad like 15 times b4 it dies and all it drops is like 1 green and 2488394820 blue mats u tend to give up ijs its not so much a challenge as justa ****in ***** to do and its not worth the charm ****/dolls/exp lose/time

Giant Beast's Crimson Horn 0.6667%
Giant Beast's Crimson Horn 13.3333%
Empire's Sigh 0.6667%
Monarch's Will 13.3333%
Evil Minion's Burning Heart 22.2222%
Ghost Lord's Protection 0.8333%
Ghost Lord's Dark Aura 16.6667%
Big Golden Sculpture 22.4214%
Big Luminostone 23.4891%
Mirage Celestone 3.3087%
Sign of Twilight 16.6667%
Leaf of Unicorn Forest 6.4061%
Stone of the Scarred 5.3384%


for ****s and giggles here ish the red mat drop rates
Golden Mask 0.0067%
Heart of Nature 0.0042%
Twilight Scepter 0.0056%

Fail more, those are the default drop rates, the actual drop rates are higher due to multiple counts and multiple items per count. And by higher I mean a lot higher.

It's funny when people come here and QQ about the drop rates being wrong based on an extremely small sample, such as 1-5 runs. Try doing 10,000 and then come back.

Marche - Harshlands

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Fail more, those are the default drop rates, the actual drop rates are higher due to multiple counts and multiple items per count. And by higher I mean a lot higher.

It's funny when people come here and QQ about the drop rates being wrong based on an extremely small sample, such as 1-5 runs. Try doing 10,000 and then come back.

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wrong u MORON ok lemme explain this PW database is based off of more so PW-MY's drop rates PWI on the other hand is more accurate to the default due to the fact it has the LOWEST drop settings of all the PW servers basically meaning it harder to farm and lvl here then it is on MY CN or Pservers GG on ur try though


add in i just wanna say it made me giggle that ur highest lvl isa 92 EA lolz u haven't even hit anything end game yet go no life HH like Nyxya or myself did and we can talk about who QQs about drop rates then kiddo


addin again so maybe u will get it the real drop rate for the Golden mask red mat is 0.1607% sooooooo if thats the case im almost positive one would have droped by now in the past 2 years pwi has been open it hasn't NONE have ijs

Olbaze - Sanctuary

Marche - Harshlands wrote: »

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wrong u MORON ok lemme explain this PW database is based off of more so PW-MY's drop rates PWI on the other hand is more accurate to the default due to the fact it has the LOWEST drop settings of all the PW servers basically meaning it harder to farm and lvl here then it is on MY CN or Pservers GG on ur try though

Um, what?

The PWDB droprates show both default droprates and a weighted droprate, where the latter is the former altered by the amount of counts and drops/count.

For example, here we have these numbers for Heart of Nature:
Default: 0.0042%
Real: 0.1008%

We also have the following drop data:
Counts: 8
Items/count: 3

The actual probability to get the item is as follows:
Counts*(1*P(1item)+2*P(2items)+3*P(3items))

In this case, we get:
8*(0+0+3)= 8*3= 24

Now, 24 * 0.0042 = 0.1008

I would suggest that you educate yourself on the very basics of probability theory. And also, I find it hilarious that you'd call me a moron. And by the way, in case you do wish to educate yourself on it, it's called expected value.

addin again so maybe u will get it the real drop rate for the Golden mask red mat is 0.1607% sooooooo if thats the case im almost positive one would have droped by now in the past 2 years pwi has been open it hasn't NONE have ijs

Um, do you have any proof that there were none before packs? Any actual, valid, proof? Not stuff like "I know all the high levels, none had it", but actual proof that none of the people who had ever ran TT3-3 had gotten it?

And by the way, it's only expected value, it's not guaranteed. 0.1607% = ~1/623. It wouldn't be exactly unexpected for you to run 1,000 runs and not see one drop.

Marche - Harshlands

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

Um, what?

The PWDB droprates show both default droprates and a weighted droprate, where the latter is the former altered by the amount of counts and drops/count.

For example, here we have these numbers for Heart of Nature:
Default: 0.0042%
Real: 0.1008%

We also have the following drop data:
Counts: 8
Items/count: 3

The actual probability to get the item is as follows:
Counts*(1*P(1item)+2*P(2items)+3*P(3items))

In this case, we get:
8*(0+0+3)= 8*3= 24

Now, 24 * 0.0042 = 0.1008

I would suggest that you educate yourself on the very basics of probability theory. And also, I find it hilarious that you'd call me a moron.

check my second add on

basicaly ur missing my whole point dumb *** ur saying ZOMGSS!!!!!!! THE DROPS RATES ARE WRONG THE DROP RATE FOR AN Empire's Sigh 14.8319% IS THIS IN PWI...im simply telling you your a dumb *** and ur well ****in wrong

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear

Marche - Harshlands wrote: »

b4 they screwd hh i did it with ScarletSkies and Sam_ma_dork but yea like Nyxya said now bs anda half sheet i will quit this game if u pull that off on vid and dont die 3920480923 times but oh wait im already quiting LOL


edit* @ Kiyoshi apparently your as about as intelligent as Silchas_ruin is LOL we have ALL already stated that farming 3-3 is NOT impossible its just extremely difficult so much so that we just say **** this i have burned a charm anda half the cleric has lost 920842093840238exp Peace

the most i stated besides agreeing with nyxya is if ur gonna up the difficulty up the drop rate thats all

ofcourse i guess Nyxya and i cant be PvE gods like the rest of you guys

i guess ht is just much more developed the harshlands... cause people over here does arma uncharmed most of the time (barb included). charm should never be a factor when an tw capable squad decides to do arma. either go gear up or just quit the game already... complaining won't solve anything... it just make you look even weaker then you already are.

Nyxya - Harshlands

i did hundred of tt any type any kind anyway any team and i know gold drops like never..you come here show numbers means...nothing really..if you so literate you should know a 10% chance drop means that item can never drop also...1% is hilarious with THIS DIFICULTY ON BOSS where i spend alone 500k coin in charm and pots //// boss that is for 1 boss....to get luminostones..come on even if you are moderator and try easy this **** tt change cant say is RIGHT!!!!