Highest DPS across all classes
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »LOL b:laugh
I laughed at sword BMs before I met one dude on our server; TT90 stuff sharded with garnets and Lunar sword, below average refines. I remember him beating a dude with TT100 fists +7 since he just didn't do enough damage. Well, I laugh at him nevertheless but for other reasons. b:chuckle
Yes I know it was irrelevant to the DPS discussion but he's just too damn funny. b:pleasedBorsuc - Raging Tide wrote: »So I ask why the hell have -interval in the first place... since not having it won't change TW much... it's purely a broken mechanic specifically made for breaking PvE???
Devs went a bit over the line when they capped the attack speed to 5 but seriously if BMs would have to use axes/swords/poles (ie. no fists at all or any -int) they would get even less squads than wizards and psys do now.100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
pwcalc.com/e7016929e7b204ae "Pure axe" 8k HP multipath BM, last one of my kind.0 -
Why do people keep messing up on the effect of skills? Barbs thinking True Form is half damage, now assassins thinking Condensed Thorn adds 50% damage? What part of a non-spark costing, 15 sec CD with 10 sec duration, make that seem anything but ridiculous? Least a few sane people are posting in here, though I wish it did work as others believe. DBB would be an awesome add, and I imagine archers would love demon Blazing Arrow as well.
To reiterate Waffle's post, it is only a .5 damage multiplier of elemental type damage added on. Add in perma-spark, and it is barely noticeable in PvE instances. Against normal bosses maybe, but 150 lvls it's usually not worth it.Fist are the worst at PvP AND PvE, if you disagree, as I said, take it to PM's or make your own guide. Go here if you want to debate about it. - Lyndura
Get a High lvl Fist warrior use it, Restat to axes. GG - complexx
:NOTE: These signatures are to forever immortalize, how stupid people can be.0 -
Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »LOL b:laugh
You want to prove this go out and kill a boss and time it as it well known those who wear the heaviest armour are those with the highest DPS.lol back.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »You want to prove this go out and kill a boss and time it as it well known those who wear the heaviest armour are those with the highest DPS.lol back.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL b:byeBladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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Yeah... Demon Sin > All0
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »LOLOLOLOLOLOL b:bye
I can do that to you know but it makes it just silly to do so.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »I can do that to you know but it makes it just silly to do so.
Sorry, I find ignorance very amusing. b:byeBladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »Sorry, I find ignorance very amusing. b:bye
I am not being ignorant only way to prove this is by testing it it to bad this game doesn't have master of damage like another one I play which calculates the rate of damage and Warriors are No.1 not Sins.Yes we have Sin in that game to.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »I am not being ignorant only way to prove this is by testing it it to bad this game doesn't have master of damage like another one I play which calculates the rate of damage and Warriors are No.1 not Sins.Yes we have Sin in that game to.
Newsflash it's been tested....BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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in a decent game a warrior is there to support, semi-tank/semi-DD/aoe. here they can provide buff and hf/glacial/cc and even decent damage (before packs came out) while wizards/psy should get invited as main DD but its far from that. ive played this game long enough and first char was a warrior and i got asked plenty of times to tank fb's or to join some other pve squads. there are more bm's out there now because the game force ppl to play this class. you can be main tank, main dd, have crowd control, can even rely on just pots/charm/spark to get heal... its basically all classes in a single oneKupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »Devs went a bit over the line when they capped the attack speed to 5 but seriously if BMs would have to use axes/swords/poles (ie. no fists at all or any -int) they would get even less squads than wizards and psys do now.0 -
Sin with g15 nirvana daggers > then all. But then again, they are bound to take aggro. Even Bloodpaint won't save them from bosses.
EDIT: I MEANT DAGGERS!!!!! sorry lolAP classes are a real butt pounding...0 -
ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »Sin with g15 nirvana claws > then all. But then again, they are bound to take aggro. Even Bloodpaint won't save them from bosses.
ummmmm no![:\](https://forum.arcgames.com/pwi/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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archsaber - Sanctuary wrote: »sin With G15 Nirvana Claws > Then All. But Then Again, They Are Bound To Take Aggro. Even Bloodpaint Won't Save Them From Bosses.
Lmao?0 -
ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »Sin with g15 nirvana claws > then all. But then again, they are bound to take aggro. Even Bloodpaint won't save them from bosses.
o_O .0 -
Maybe he meant daggers ?_?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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lets do some basic math!
+12 deicide has:
13201-14706
avg damage = (13201 + 14706) / 2 = 13953.5 x 5.0 atks = 69767.5 x 1.21% accounting for crit = 84418.675 average damage per second if you add in crit.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=59c9da38a1f41874
+12 barrier thorn - nirvana
16315-19179
avg damage = (16315+19179) / 2 = 17747 x 5 = 88735 x 1.32 = 117130.2 dps
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=883d25adebe8031f
case solved.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
I meant daggers sorry lolAP classes are a real butt pounding...0
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WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »lets do some basic math!
+12 deicide has:
13201-14706
avg damage = (13201 + 14706) / 2 = 13953.5 x 5.0 atks = 69767.5 x 1.21% accounting for crit = 84418.675 average damage per second if you add in crit.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=59c9da38a1f41874
+12 barrier thorn - nirvana
16315-19179
avg damage = (16315+19179) / 2 = 17747 x 5 = 88735 x 1.32 = 117130.2 dps
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=883d25adebe8031f
case solved.
math is not needed. a 3 year old could just look at the atk rate of the 2 weapons and figure out which one is better.
in other words 16315-19179>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13201-14706. if someone cant figure that out then i dont know how anyone can possibly help them in life.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »lets do some basic math!
+12 deicide has:
13201-14706
avg damage = (13201 + 14706) / 2 = 13953.5 x 5.0 atks = 69767.5 x 1.21% accounting for crit = 84418.675 average damage per second if you add in crit.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=59c9da38a1f41874
+12 barrier thorn - nirvana
16315-19179
avg damage = (16315+19179) / 2 = 17747 x 5 = 88735 x 1.32 = 117130.2 dps
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=883d25adebe8031f
case solved.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e5076761694baf58
18856-19618 bm
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=f3c2cd4dd63019db
19501-22324 without demon dagger evolutionAP classes are a real butt pounding...0 -
ArchSaber - Sanctuary wrote: »I meant daggers sorry lol
You would need rank 8, unless you have about 500m EXTRA to spend on recasts. The probability of getting double damage + int + int is not something you would even want to know. And yes even at double damage you still NEED perma spark for a lot of reasons. That's why not a single sin has gotten G15 daggers, unless they were a complete idiot.BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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Zerhee - Lost City wrote: »
Highest DPS on DW before he quit was Ajay.. high dex build bm. If I can find his stats I can prove you are right. He had something like 34% crit at one point. He had a DPS competition with one of the best geared 5 aps sins.. and won.0 -
Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »Highest DPS on DW before he quit was Ajay.. high dex build bm. If I can find his stats I can prove you are right. He had something like 34% crit at one point. He had a DPS competition with one of the best geared 5 aps sins.. and won.
DEX build BM =/= DPS. Whatever DPS competition it was, it was flawed.0 -
Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »Highest DPS on DW before he quit was Ajay.. high dex build bm. If I can find his stats I can prove you are right. He had something like 34% crit at one point. He had a DPS competition with one of the best geared 5 aps sins.. and won.
Sorry hun, I know he def did a lot of damage, but he can't match some of the top sins now. Maybe way back when.BladedZero - Sanctuary
"Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."
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Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »Sorry hun, I know he def did a lot of damage, but he can't match some of the top sins now. Maybe way back when.
If Ajay ever gets on again I'll put that to the test with which ever sin you chose Traz.
To the other guy, if dex build doesn't contribute you are wrong and basically the competition consisted of who kept aggro on bosses. Since niether class have aggro skills you have to rely on who keeps aggro. Ajay won.0 -
Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »Sorry hun, I know he def did a lot of damage, but he can't match some of the top sins now. Maybe way back when.
Whatever damage Ajay did, a 3-2 BM with the same gears could do better. Having 34% crit means nothing if his damage per hit is low from low STR.Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »That's why not a single sin has gotten G15 daggers, unless they were a complete idiot.
There's a pair of G15 lunar recasted daggers on HL. It's got zerk and -0.05 add. Even at 4 APS, it easily out DDs G13 daggers because zerk is ~20% chance proc which makes up for the 1 APS less per second and G15 refines a lot more.Aubree - Dreamweaver wrote: »To the other guy, if dex build doesn't contribute you are wrong and basically the competition consisted of who kept aggro on bosses. Since never class have aggro skills you have to rely on who keeps aggro. Ajay won.
The Sin either wasn't 5 APS, or had a crappy pair of daggers. The math is simple, and having 100 BM and Sin, I know which one would do more damage attacking at the same speed. If my BM wasn't sparking at 3.33 vs my Sin's 2.86, my Sin will out DPS its lunar claws with TT80 daggers.
I don't know why you even need testing. If you believe that DEX helps BM's DPS more than STR, a Sin with 430 DEX is = a BM with 430 STR and 430 DEX.0 -
There's poohxbearx with zerk g15 nirvana daggers +12 and 5 aps on RT b:surrenderOkeano - Harshlands wrote: »There's a pair of G15 lunar recasted daggers on HL. It's got zerk and -0.05 add. Even at 4 APS, it easily out DDs G13 daggers because zerk is ~20% chance proc which makes up for the 1 APS less per second and G15 refines a lot moreFirst 103 on Raging Tide 30 Oct 2010
Quit.0 -
Anyone with a +12 warsoul, cash shopping can make any class uber against others
However in regular conditions with regular in-game affordable gear i rarely lose aggro to any class, sins my level included, i know for i liked to tank (haven't done anything for like two months now) and as everyone knows a BM's aggro relies 100% on damage (stream strike is ****), so far so good
And yes, caster classes are more oriented to "1-shot" kills, a blow so strong that they don't require too much more to kill a regular mob, and spells that usually take a big chunk off a boss' hp, sometimes i run a "stress test" just for fun, and ask the highest dd in party to try as hard as they possibly can to steal aggro, sometimes they do sometimes they don't, that's why god invented alpha maleOriginally Posted by frankieraye: To say that would be a lie, because in regards to the DQ problem, it's something that we're honestly still working on, and something that we believe we can fix.
(8)Don't stop! believing! hold onto that feeling!(8)0 -
For the ones putting psychic in the equation...
They gotta hold back too much to be a 'contender'.0 -
!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »lets do some basic math!
+12 deicide has:
13201-14706
avg damage = (13201 + 14706) / 2 = 13953.5 x 5.0 atks = 69767.5 x 1.21% accounting for crit = 84418.675 average damage per second if you add in crit.
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=59c9da38a1f41874
+12 barrier thorn - nirvana
16315-19179
avg damage = (16315+19179) / 2 = 17747 x 5 = 88735 x 1.32 = 117130.2 dps
http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=883d25adebe8031f
case solved.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
advice to fledgling archers:
Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hush, go play in the corner waffle.0
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