Looking at the map....

Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Tideswell (East)
Fuzzy is somewhat amazed when looking at the current state of our beloved servers map.

It was almost the case last week, but after the results from the battles this weekend, there is no escaping the truth.

EVERY SINGLE LAND HOLDING FACTION ON THE MAP SHARES A BORDER WITH QQme.

Fuzzy and his faction have been fighting QQme head to head for months now. We understand better than anyone else how hard they hit. Yes, it is obvious they have Varden surrounded. Some say this is the only reason we attack them. However, when we did have a choice to attack either Carebear or QQme, instead of taking the easy choice, Varden stuck with it and again attempted to take on the giant of the day.

Fuzzy has started to bleed some land in the last 2 weeks, but that is the nature of the game. There isn't a single faction holding land right now that can stand up to a one on one assault against them and not loose. Sad state, yet none the less true.

is it their fault? No not all. Is this just QQ from Fuzzy? No, so don't take it that way and spare this panda the usual useless "lolumad" ****.

Fuzzy is not mad, Fuzzy is curious.

This coming weekend EACH and EVERY faction on the map has a chance to bid on some QQ land.

Will they take advantage of it? Or will they simply continue to cower in fear? You can choose to fight each other and pretend you are playing it safe, but have no fear. You day will come. Simply prolonging it does you no good.

Maybe QQme is big an bad (or at least looks like it when looking at the map) but perhaps everyone can set aside their own personal goal of getting "1 more easy land" from your smaller neighbour this weekend.

A server wide assault on the giant may just hurt it now instead of it hurting the rest of us later...

...just a thought.

~Fuzzy
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  • Kali - Raging Tide
    Kali - Raging Tide Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I'm touched. Fuzzy for president. Gl. b:victory
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  • RainZ - Raging Tide
    RainZ - Raging Tide Posts: 231 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Sad to say that Im on a long leave and cant be too involved in pwi but I agree that all brave factions should challenge QQme and Im sure even qqme members would welcome the challenge.. Server's done it once.. you guys could do it again... might be tough but no one will know if no one tries...
    N id like to see how cooperative the server can be and how qqme would b under some constant pressureb:chuckle
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Because like I said in another thread. As long as their are lower level factions with land (chakra, murr, HVND, poseidon, etc.) Their not going to attack, instead they're going to go "OOH SHINY" And bid on what seems to them to be "easy land" because they want their 1 week on the map, even if they lose it the next week.
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  • Asheera - Raging Tide
    Asheera - Raging Tide Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Also... only 3 attacks per day on a faction. So the weak factions that can be rolled with one squad (like Black) are actually hurting the chances of victory, ijs.
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  • Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fuzzy agrees with you Rawrgh, but that is the whole point of starting a thread like this.

    Maybe if someone opens their eyes too it, they just might be able to see the bigger picture.

    Everyone can mount an assault on QQme, they only have the option to take one of us. If the lower level factions put their own ambitions on hold for at least one weekend to try, it could be worth their while. Everything to gain, nothing to loose.

    Or they can continue to squabble over the "shiny" land right in front them. Yes, that might get them 10 more mil this week. Yes, it may even get them a 1+hr war today. But at the same time they are going to essentially seal their own fate for the weeks to come.

    as to Asheera's point, yes, they can only face 9 attacks in a weekend. So where the hell are they? Even as it is now, Fuzzy and Varden are the ONLY attack they face each week.

    b:shutup

    Fuzzy naturally assumes trying to bring a longer term picture into focus is a wasted effort on most people but unlike how the rest seem, Fuzzy will always put forth the effort anyway.

    b:surrender
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  • Ambition - Raging Tide
    Ambition - Raging Tide Posts: 1,152 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I believe there's 6 attacks on a faction per day. 3 in the afternoon, 3 in the evening. I could be wrong, though.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Most of the factions are unable to think long term, they'd rather have 1 week on the map. Even though eventually they'll just lose it. Because they simply fail to see the larger picture.


    Part of the problem seems to be none of the factions can stay together. They form, do alright for a while and then they lose, and then they disband. Their faction dies, a majority will move on to the next faction and the rest will go a seperate way.

    Another problem seems to be a lack of quality members of the factions. Majority of factions that do participate in TW with the exception of QQme, Leviathan, and varden, seem to be filled with 7x that never level. I don't know if anyone's heard the news yet but when a faction can put a full 80 people level 90+ in a TW a bunch of 7x isn't going to cut it. They need to level, work on gear, and then place their bids.
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  • Umbra - Raging Tide
    Umbra - Raging Tide Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fuzzy, your voice terrifies me on vent.
    But at least our minds are in sync with each other.
    Skyrim, ok. b:dirty
  • Pew_Pew - Raging Tide
    Pew_Pew - Raging Tide Posts: 1,037 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Most of the factions are unable to think long term, they'd rather have 1 week on the map. Even though eventually they'll just lose it. Because they simply fail to see the larger picture.


    Part of the problem seems to be none of the factions can stay together. They form, do alright for a while and then they lose, and then they disband. Their faction dies, a majority will move on to the next faction and the rest will go a seperate way.

    Another problem seems to be a lack of quality members of the factions. Majority of factions that do participate in TW with the exception of QQme, Leviathan, and varden, seem to be filled with 7x that never level. I don't know if anyone's heard the news yet but when a faction can put a full 80 people level 90+ in a TW a bunch of 7x isn't going to cut it. They need to level, work on gear, and then place their bids.

    join the resistance and lets have some fun :3
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Only if you buy me deicide claws.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Only if you buy me deicide claws.

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  • sitnspin
    sitnspin Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I cant speak for the other small factions that hold land... but as far as HVND goes it has nothing to do with owning a "shiny shiny". It is basic facts that we are PWI noobs 9/10s of us, & that makes our TW experience on the low end of the scale. We go to war only as learning experience at this point. If we ended up winning, it was a good day. honestly as to the 10mil~ that doesnt put a dent in what it cost us. If we were for the money we are better off to stay out of TW & stay ahead of the money with the savings lol
    We attack Haven who is outta our league solely because they take their time & not out for a 5 minute roll, thus we can learn from them... Other BIG facs like QQme would have squash us in 2 minutes. cant financially afford that particular lesson at this juncture. :(
    I am sure QQme would love some action, & at anytime coulda knocked us small guys completely off the map as could many other strong facs. We are taking advatage of the opportunity your faction & these other rollers have allowed us & we are LEARNING :)

    take out QQme with a bunch small facs & some mid to bigs & those remaining bigs will simply replace QQme in a matter of a few weekends. is this what u meant by "thinking ahead"? lol joke, but seriously your faction path is not the same as a small facs & we are not your soldiers to manipulate to make your factions battle easier :) Perception is reality & we are wearing different glasses....
    Perhaps, it's not the small facs that have an issue with limits, its those in the middle to big that have an issue with being satisified with what they got b:chuckle


    It all in fun boys.... no "off with her head" b:surrender


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  • Qorex - Raging Tide
    Qorex - Raging Tide Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    My sentiments exactly, Qorex with Fuzzy no doubt.
    There isn't a single faction holding land right now that can stand up to a one on one assault against them and not loose. Sad state, yet none the less true.

    Now the question is why is that and what can be done about it. Wars are won playing smart not hard, Qorex remembers Fuzzy saying its not Fuzzys nature to do mergers, so what is left remain weak against QQme? How exactly different scattered and overall weaker factions become stronger. Where shall we get that shiny magic wand??
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Leveling, running TT, etc.
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  • Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    sitnspin wrote: »
    we are not your soldiers to manipulate to make your factions battle easier :) Perception is reality & we are wearing different glasses....

    Makes Fuzzy sad to see this is how you view the situation. If you think Fuzzy would attempt to manipulate people to make his own battle easier, obviously this is one panda you do not know. Me can't deny it may be a side effect that perhaps if every faction tried to take a bite at once out the dominant factor it may well make Varden's fight easier. But as said, that is just a side effect.

    It is the nature of the TW structure that over time the weak will fall and the map will come to be dominated by 1. There is no escape from this end result.

    The big picture Fuzzy speaks of is how long the rest of us can prevent that from happening.

    Factions like HVND only enjoy the opportunity to hold land right now because people like Fuzzy worked hard to turn the tide against Infamy. (There were also several internal issues, but lets not go there in this thread) Once they collapsed it became the chance for others to carve out some land for their own.

    The time is at hand where this now needs to be done again.

    It is not that Fuzzy sees the other factions as "his soldiers" to use, but if someone doesn't put forth the effort to try, you will soon find yourself without land and no chance to spend time "learning TW".

    Yes, one of today's other factions (Levi etc) may become the dominating guild once QQme fails. The smaller factions will forever need to struggle to keep 1 from dominating. It isn't easy. However, having 1 major player rise and fall, another usurp them and then fall themselves is far more preferable to Fuzzy than simply having one shadow grow over the land and become an immovable object.

    Like me said, factions like HVND etc have everything to gain and nothing to loose by taking a shot at a faction like QQme.

    Or don't... then in the next while, when they consume what you now hold, you will need to ask yourself "what if....".
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  • Eyebrows - Lost City
    Eyebrows - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I'm torn, i'm torn...

    the truth is QQme is nothing super special, and with the leaving of big names like LuciferV its quickly becoming a faceless faction of people who enjoy each other and work well together.

    Part of me says other factions are full of pricks who can't work together and everybody feels like they need to lead their own faction. Too many leaders and not enough followers.

    What this person has charged 2k more zhen than everyone else? Faction leader

    What this person has 2k more telacoustics to spend on world chat? Faction leader



    I admire fuzzy anyway loyal to a fault to his faction and never says die ;) This forum thread has my stamp of approval b:cute
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    The problem is that it was Infamy vs. QQme + Leviathan + Varden


    Now it's, QQme vs Leviathan + Varden.


    And I don't see any faction that can really bring enough manpower to make it a 3 vs. 1.

    If QQme can send 1 squad and roll a faction in 5 minutes then that faction is really just hurting more than helping by attacking QQme, as it prevents a stronger faction from bidding.


    Want to win? Find a third faction that can at least buy the other 2 factions 20 minutes.]


    My advice? Have HVND, Chakra, and all those mid sized factions out there, put their level 90+ in Haven.
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  • Erinea - Raging Tide
    Erinea - Raging Tide Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide wrote: »

    Factions like HVND only enjoy the opportunity to hold land right now because people like Fuzzy worked hard to turn the tide against Infamy. (There were also several internal issues, but lets not go there in this thread) Once they collapsed it became the chance for others to carve out some land for their own.

    If the bigger faction attacks then they QQ about it when they practicality did the same for the free land, saying it was unfair for em bla bla bla. Is like when someone complains about getting pked over and over, why turn it on then? If ya can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen (lol gma quotes)
  • Eyebrows - Lost City
    Eyebrows - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    OK i'm back to say stuff once again.

    Fuzzy is in a faction where maybe 5 people really care or enjoy tw, whereas QQme is a faction where 100 people care and enjoy.

    Lets face it on other servers not that many people get to enjoy tw, and there is a game you can enjoy without it. I think people who care about tw should be in a good tw faction with at least 80 others who enjoy. Otherwise you choose to be in a faction say that is just there for friendship and comradary, and there is nothing wrong with that, just don't complain when your in a faction of 50 level 60's that you can't get a very good tw.

    Honestly a faction that can field 80 level 70's that is consistent woudl probably have about 7 lands on the map right now. is that too much to ask of people working together? I guess it is.
  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Honestly a faction that can field 80 level 70's that is consistent woudl probably have about 7 lands on the map right now. is that too much to ask of people working together? I guess it is.

    No, it wouldn't.


    Like I've said before, 7x in TW is nonfactor, nothing wrong with that, especially since you can reach 90+ very easily now.

    But 80 level 70s would get steamrolled by 3 squads of 90+.
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  • Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Want to win? Find a third faction that can at least buy the other 2 factions 20 minutes.
    Eyebrows - Lost City wrote: »
    Honestly a faction that can field 80 level 70's that is consistent woudl probably have about 7 lands on the map right now. is that too much to ask of people working together? I guess it is.

    Fuzzy quote both for truth. b:thanks

    And while there are many things that could/should be done to change the track the server is now on without more people seeing things for what they are, this will sadly never happen.

    However, Fuzzy is a bit guilty of pulling his own thread off topic. Me did not intend for this to become a rant about how the beast QQme needs to be stopped or we all gonna die. (Although that is the current state of affairs) Fuzzy main point was the interesting shape the map finds itself in today.

    Every single guild on the map has a chance to take a shot at the dominating factor.

    EACH and EVERY!

    If you are just interested in pretending to play at TW with each other while you have the chance, go back to that next weekend.

    This weekend, why let such an interesting opportunity slip past unnoticed?
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  • Eyebrows - Lost City
    Eyebrows - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No, it wouldn't.


    Like I've said before, 7x in TW is nonfactor, nothing wrong with that, especially since you can reach 90+ very easily now.

    But 80 level 70s would get steamrolled by 3 squads of 90+.

    idk rhargh i dissagree.

    Don't make me tell me how my 76 wizard and my friends 80 archer go around killing rank 8 archers and many event gear stacked bms XD
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No, it wouldn't.


    Like I've said before, 7x in TW is nonfactor, nothing wrong with that, especially since you can reach 90+ very easily now.

    But 80 level 70s would get steamrolled by 3 squads of 90+.

    Blarg teh nonfactors be uniting now against the Rawrgh.
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Eyebrows - Lost City wrote: »
    idk rhargh i dissagree.

    Don't make me tell me how my 76 wizard and my friends 80 archer go around killing rank 8 archers and many event gear stacked bms XD
    Uh huh.... I also killed Remvrandt, LuciferV, poohbear, and half the server yesterday.


    Got an SS?


    3 squads of 90+ will roll 80 level 70s in TW.
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  • Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide wrote: »
    3 squads of 90+ will roll 80 level 70s in TW.

    Fuzzy gotta disagree with you on this point Rawrgh...

    A well organized force of 80 high 7x - 8x can hold their own against 3 squads of 9x without much trouble.

    In fact, Fuzzy would be surprised if 3 squad 9x would win a battle like that. If they did, it would simply be poor strategy / communication on the part of the loosing side.

    ...but thats just one panda's thoughts based on passed experience.


    edit: Not sure what you consider "being a factor" Rawrgh, but to Fuzzy it consists of a hell of alot more than simply level + gear. If thats all it took, Carebear would still be on the map. The had a couple of squads of the biggest "factors" on the server and we all saw how that played out.

    Teamwork, strategy/organization and communication are far far more vital than simply having a few squads of 9x or whatever level is deemed to be factor-worthy.
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  • NightRage - Raging Tide
    NightRage - Raging Tide Posts: 1,582 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    5 9Xs defended against the entirety of Chakra, even with ToyTank and Nimpo there. I'm not sure how many they fielded, but it had to be at least 30-40.

    If everyone is a two shot, then I can just keep tab targetting and wiping out the whole faction.

    Transcend has like 20 people that I don't constantly kick, that's why we don't bid on QQme. b:cute
  • Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide Posts: 770 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    NightRage - Raging Tide wrote: »
    If everyone is a two shot, then I can just keep tab targetting and wiping out the whole faction.

    If everyone is a two-shot and they are running around like headless chickens Fuzzy have no doubt you can wipe em each and every time.

    If they are giving you the opportunity to continually two-shot them they have no game plan, hence no chance of winning.

    ...Fuzzy just saying

    b:surrender
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  • Rawrgh - Raging Tide
    Rawrgh - Raging Tide Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Jones blessings turns 2 shots into 1 shots IJS.


    And I can anti stun + holy path + armageddon and take out 15 7x in a TW, and yes there will be times when they are that close together.


    With jones blessing a zerk onslaught one shots any 7x squishy.


    The gear/stat disadvantage is too large for them to overcome with numbers.
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  • Bastilla - Raging Tide
    Bastilla - Raging Tide Posts: 379 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    so fuzzy, i must ask. what if varden one day is the "it" faction? will you step down and lead a revolt against it? (stopping "beasts" of varied colors seems to be your thing) all i can really draw from your posts is lolfuzzymad. but go ahead, try and manipulate other factions into doing your dirty work, while you attempt to reap the benefits.
  • sitnspin
    sitnspin Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Fuzzy_Wuzzy - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Fuzzy quote both for truth. b:thanks

    If you are just interested in pretending to play at TW with each other while you have the chance, go back to that next weekend.

    This weekend, why let such an interesting opportunity slip past unnoticed?



    *whispers in light tones* "psst, Fuzzy i do like your style, but i have to call u out on this one.... the whole "pretend to play..." stab to others is an attempt at manipulation to get others to fit in with your vision of fun, world domination, protecting your backdoors, opening the map for more options for all, i dont know lol w/e it is u may seek b:laugh
    Thats not to say you lost any of your finesse in my eyes or your idea is even a bad one, just instead of throwing all the lil facs under the train speak with them not at them, you may be surprised to find it is not us wearing the rose coloured glasses... :)
    the map is potentially 2 weekends aways from a 3 fac map if they wanted (those 3 facs) it that way. & Your fac is potentially 1 weekend away if QQme wanted it like that. idk....

    I wish all who like to play this segment of the game much luck. It is fun & addicting.
    To Fuzzy.... i remember several months back you always said "Fuzzy gonna build the bridges" You stayed true to your word.... Now stay classy & try not to burn them all down in one swoop ;) Bring that Fuzzy back & you will have the anklebiters not even on the map going for other prey.
    this lil anklebiter is gone, just came through to see the directed shot *hugz* to all.

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