Why do Clerics get to lose exp?

HarmieX - Heavens Tear
HarmieX - Heavens Tear Posts: 42 Arc User
edited June 2010 in General Discussion
Playing my Cleric atm and i find it unfair Clerics in dungeons get to lose exp by going to town (when they're on cleric in squad, which is often the case) when it's there skill that prevents others from losing exp in the first place. Thoughts? b:victory
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  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    it's called GS b:avoid
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    it's called GS b:avoid

    If that's the case, then all other classes should bring one so a cleric doesn't have to rez.
    :)
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    the thing is GS doesn't allow you to self ressurect b:avoid
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  • XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver
    XxLady_XelxX - Dreamweaver Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I won't complain. Clerics get plenty of perks to make up for it.

    'Sides...if shi*BLEEP* truly hits the fan, everyone else is gonna die first. b:sin
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    'Sides...if shi*BLEEP* truly hits the fan, everyone else is gonna die first. b:sin

    the hamster tends to die first.
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  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I've never understood the big deal with the EXP loss anyways.
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Nenor - Dreamweaver
    Nenor - Dreamweaver Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I don't rely nor depend on clerics for rez. It is a perk if im in an instance with one, and always appreciated. (if the cleric has lv 11 rez, then i wont buy another (GS) until i'm out of instance, lower rez, i buy another)
    However, i refuse to lay somewhere dead for 30 minutes waiting for someone to come and rez me, when I can simply keep an g. scroll in my pocket and respawn immediatly. I haven't been without one since i got around level 80.
    IMO if you are to cheap to keep one on you at all times, loose the xp and don't QQ, after all, it is YOUR choice.
  • Yindra - Sanctuary
    Yindra - Sanctuary Posts: 784 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Same as in every other game --- it's "just the way it is". Resurrection skills don't usually work on yourself, so if you're the only one with that skills... off you go. That's why your party should never forget that impatience leads to chaos, chaos leads the dark side to you, and everything together in one place leads to a respawn point.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Why cleric lost exp ? Because you save everyone else exp.

    Why cleric lost exp ? So people can say cleric easily Q.Q when cleric talk about these

    Why cleric lost exp ? So you play longer or pay more

    Why cleric lost exp ? Because you were patient & care other people

    Why cleric lost exp ? So everyone not blame cleric so hard when they died

    Why cleric lost exp ? Because almost no one care cleric exp

    Why cleric lost exp ? So another thread like these will be forgotten

    Why cleric lost exp ? So cleric rage quit fast

    Why cleric lost exp ? To make them rare

    Why cleric lost exp ? So cleric realize they can start charging people who ask rez

    Why cleric lost exp ? So they will leave the squad

    Why cleric lost exp ? So they buy GS

    Why cleric lost exp ? So cleric can save everyone else exp

    Why cleric lost exp ? Because cleric is everyone slave

    Why cleric lost exp ? So they make a thread about the injustice

    Why cleric lost exp ? So other class can blame cleric once again on forum

    *goez crazy*
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  • Engeli - Sanctuary
    Engeli - Sanctuary Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    damn it would be nice if we didnt loose exp when we died. but its not that way. xD

    luckely we have a squad who will sacrifice themselves for us to stay alive b:chuckle

    sometimes... <.<
  • RoseIdiiar - Raging Tide
    RoseIdiiar - Raging Tide Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If that's the case, then all other classes should bring one so a cleric doesn't have to rez.
    :)


    Ahh well Hun, Each Class has their own thing.
    Vecro's Are the only ones that can Have their battle pets.
    And lets face is, A barb is always going to be the best Tank.
    Assassins, Get the Invisabilty Cloak deal. And Psychics are just... Adorable in my book.
    Archers have the long range, And Clerics have the ability to fly without losing Mana at level 1 even. Plus they are always needed, So Losing abit of Exp should'nt be bothered.

    But that's the deal there I Suppose, You get what You make! b:shy
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    And Psychics are just... Adorable in my book.
    That mean they have nothing b:cry
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  • Aubree - Dreamweaver
    Aubree - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,868 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    the thing is GS doesn't allow you to self ressurect b:avoid

    nope but res scrolls do.

    And as a cleric I try to carry both GS and res scroll.. If im in an instance where I think its forsure death (3-3 arma boss b:shocked)..and I forgot I was out, I ask squad if they have a res scroll or gs on them.. sometimes someone has and is happy to give to me. If I dont use I always give it back at the end.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    I won't complain. Clerics get plenty of perks to make up for it.

    ^ that

    As a cleric, you almost always get your bh done, many times without paying wine fees. You always get asked to run HH. You are in high demand. Well, as long as you aren't complete fail, but even then some people will just say **** it, we need a cleric and ANYONE will do.

    b:chuckle
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  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    And lets face is, A barb is always going to be the best Tank.

    Only if barb has fists. Otherwise a fist BM will beat barb in terms of tanking.
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  • DrunkWizard - Lost City
    DrunkWizard - Lost City Posts: 523 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    <.< imo claw 5.0 interval barbs ftw bosses dies too fast and no way someone without super cash shop gears can steal agro b:shocked
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  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Why cleric lost exp ? Because you save everyone else exp.

    Why cleric lost exp ? So people can say cleric easily Q.Q when cleric talk about these

    Why cleric lost exp ? So you play longer or pay more

    Why cleric lost exp ? Because you were patient & care other people

    Why cleric lost exp ? So everyone not blame cleric so hard when they died

    Why cleric lost exp ? Because almost no one care cleric exp

    Why cleric lost exp ? So another thread like these will be forgotten

    Why cleric lost exp ? So cleric rage quit fast

    Why cleric lost exp ? To make them rare

    Why cleric lost exp ? So cleric realize they can start charging people who ask rez

    Why cleric lost exp ? So they will leave the squad

    Why cleric lost exp ? So they buy GS

    Why cleric lost exp ? So cleric can save everyone else exp

    Why cleric lost exp ? Because cleric is everyone slave

    Why cleric lost exp ? So they make a thread about the injustice

    Why cleric lost exp ? So other class can blame cleric once again on forum

    *goez crazy*

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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    My solution :
    Developer should made Cleric skill Revive not *revive* exp anymore. b:pleased
    It's for cleric justice !!
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    In my opinion, it is still unfair that everyone else doesn't have to lose so much exp, but if a cleric can't afford a GS and has to go to town, then they will lose more than everyone else.

    For example, say you're in an FCC, you're using your hypers at the big room, when the barb starts to pull all the mobs to you. You turn your hypers on, set up BB, and hope the barb either agros the mobs first, or the BM stuns them at JUST the right time. BM doesn't stun. Barb doesn't agro, and BB acts like a magnet and they all take you out and your down. You unfortunately couldn't afford a GS, so you just lost a whole room of exp, and lost X%. Then if anyone else dies in the process of them still needing to kill them, you get back, you rez them, and depending on your level of rez, they lose slim to none exp.

    It's rather unfair.
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    You can just don't lvl rez up if you feel that's the case and use your logic to go argue with them b:avoid
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  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Or suggest a skill for self resurrection - cleric only.
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  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Or suggest a skill for self resurrection - cleric only.

    That would be super awesome TBH...then all the other classes will QQ lmao
  • Hypnos - Raging Tide
    Hypnos - Raging Tide Posts: 1,235 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ...how about make rez a buff, last 10min b:avoid
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  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    ...how about make rez a buff, last 10min b:avoid

    That's sounds like a pretty great idea O.O
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Why not just make revive doesn't restore exp lost ? b:surrender (like what i say earlier)

    On PWE new game *well you know the name* you can't lost exp when died, only lost your equipment durability. (can become very expensive compared to here)
    Which actually fixing problem that only cleric losing exp . .

    If you say "It's not fixing on PW, everyone lost exp that way !" . .
    Well at last fellow cleric won't make another thread like these right ? o.0 Justice for everyone.
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  • MistaBwanden - Sanctuary
    MistaBwanden - Sanctuary Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Why not just make revive doesn't restore exp lost ? b:surrender (like what i say earlier)

    On PWE new game *well you know the name* you can't lost exp when died, only lost your equipment durability. (can become very expensive compared to here)
    Which actually fixing problem that only cleric losing exp . .

    If you say "It's not fixing on PW, everyone lost exp that way !" . .
    Well at last fellow cleric won't make another thread like these right ? o.0 Justice for everyone.

    Hmm....
    Yet another reason I may quit here
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Hmm....
    Yet another reason I may quit here

    A GS would be cheaper than repairing all your equipment if everything breaks when you die.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    You dont have to loose much exp as cleric. Learn how to avoid dying and use dolls for instances. The fact that you're playing a class that never will have problems finding parties for TT, Nirvana, BHs and Frost kinda pays for the doll.

    Its not that hard to stay alive as cleric in instances anyway - unless you afk. If party wipes you are normally the last person to get aggro since you didn't attack boss. Thats plenty of time to log of when things go bad. I always log of if i see party wipe incoming, than log back in and ress all dead people lol. Or if im in TT playing cleric, i pop plume shield and Holy Path to a safe spot than come back and ress.

    Clerics are 1 of the easiest classes to stay alive on since you have so many defensive skills. Can even survive several bosses by just spam healing yourself til tank is up and running again.
  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    A GS would be cheaper than repairing all your equipment if everything breaks when you die.

    Well it still unknown but equipment won't break o.0 . . except it's already at low durability when you died.
    On PW it's about unfairness that only cleric that really losing exp compared to other class . . and the needs to buy anti exp lost item is much more needed than other class.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Well it still unknown but equipment won't break o.0 . . except it's already at low durability when you died.
    On PW it's about unfairness that only cleric that really losing exp compared to other class . . and the needs to buy anti exp lost item is much more needed than other class.

    It's not unfair. You can ask another cleric for a rez too, can't you? You also get invited for everything.

    When an item reaches 0 durability, it is broken. It is useless until you repair it.

    If they changed the mechanics to bring all your equipment to 50% durability when you die, it would still be cheaper to buy a GS.
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