I think I'll go sage, thanks.
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Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »tt90 chest at lv101?b:shutup
I think you are missing the point. Given everything else she has acquired, TT99 Chest is not a big deal.0 -
Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »I...think she meant server as in "Lost City".
The person pretty much said that they have their high level character on a non-PWI version. Which means that all the price-talking is pointless.I think you are missing the point. Given everything else she has acquired, TT99 Chest is not a big deal.
Indeed, just thinking of the lvl 11 skills, or the event gears, a TT99 chest kinda pales in comparison.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »The person pretty much said that they have their high level character on a non-PWI version. Which means that all the price-talking is pointless.
just i am curios how much will eb the price when u reach my lv here.... i bet pretty similiar (exclude if u lv with oracle and with other shts)I think you are missing the point. Given everything else she has acquired, TT99 Chest is not a big deal.
and u missed thisOriginally Posted by Olba - Sanctuary View Post
That's kinda worrisome.
Um, I suggest trying to fix that grammar, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here.
Ok, let's be realistic. Obviously, I meant 99 when you already have all of the gear and skills. Or heck, let's be fun and say 100 with every skill and all gear +12. What to do then other than PvP or quit the game?idk how many u play but if u get all skill,eq at lv99without cash shop then u will my idol :PLady Asterelle did. She never spent real life money on the game, has all Demon skills, and this is her build: http://pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=e45ab73d7aa1b8aa (you can see it on her profile).
Idolize her. Now.0 -
Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »just i am curios how much will eb the price when u reach my lv here.... i bet pretty similiar (exclude if u lv with oracle and with other shts)
If you really are on a NON-PWI version of Perfect World...well...it kinda makes your entire argument moot.
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Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »just i am curios how much will eb the price when u reach my lv here.... i bet pretty similiar (exclude if u lv with oracle and with other shts)
For the record, I have not seen any Demon Archer skills for 30 millions. You talked like all the skills were 20-100 million each.
And really, there's not much left to do after 90 except get the gear and skills. And at that point, the cost stops being a factor.
And again, deciding cultivation based on cost efficiency is not a wise choice.If you really are on a NON-PWI version of Perfect World...well...it kinda makes your entire argument moot.
Well, he is arguing that Sage>Demon because of Sharpened Tooth Arrow and cost efficiency.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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I was about to say, what server is this? A single skill selling for 110 million? I know, Demon Earth Barrier, but for that much?Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »So basically, you're arguing the prices based on some private server? That makes no sense, again. Which seems to be pretty common for you, for the record.
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »If you really are on a NON-PWI version of Perfect World...well...it kinda makes your entire argument moot.
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still i am not sure u can get all eq in this server too and all skills at lv99 and at 100 all +12 without cash shop.For the record, I have not seen any Demon Archer skills for 30 millions. You talked like all the skills were 20-100 million each.
And really, there's not much left to do after 90 except get the gear and skills. And at that point, the cost stops being a factor.
And again, deciding cultivation based on cost efficiency is not a wise choice.
still u dont reached the lv99 too and in ur avatar that is the correct lv then u can see how price changeing by time.
when i started here the ob the golen charm still dont was ~1,2m like in harshland atm. how price gone up, go up the skills too and idk but maybe here too the demon quickshot not 1-2m, or here that cheap?
i dont said each but few skill really expensive same like few eq too.
after 90 have alot thing what u can do without grinding eq. whatever ppls allways take higher lv dd's for higher hh like 3-3 when have timer boss too if they can choose.
u can grind out alot thing after 90 really.I was about to say, what server is this? A single skill selling for 110 million? I know, Demon Earth Barrier, but for that much?
I've never seen a skill price that high.
not for comparasion but in pw my few ppl bought for 650m and that 2,5year old server, here too can see after 1 year and i bet here too will be double than atm.0 -
Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »
Well, he is arguing that Sage>Demon because of Sharpened Tooth Arrow and cost efficiency.
Ah...well...hm. I don't play an archer, so I'll bow out of this part of the conversation. b:thanksAstoru - Heavens Tear wrote: »I was about to say, what server is this? A single skill selling for 110 million? I know, Demon Earth Barrier, but for that much?
I've never seen a skill price that high.
I saw a Sage Aqua Spirit (Water Mastery) selling for 100m, buy price.
...wonder if it sold...
b:questionShadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »still i am not sure u can get all eq in this server too and all skills at lv99 and at 100 all +12 without cash shop.
In this case, then you really can't say much, if you're on a different version of PWI. The economy here is a lot different than other versions. For instance, in MY-EN, the Gold price is much higher than over here (even though we still get a lot of QQ for it). You can't really compare the two, as much as you want to. Just play the game here and get used to it, maybe...?
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Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »still i am not sure u can get all eq in this server too and all skills at lv99 and at 100 all +12 without cash shop.
Everything is possible with time. There is NOTHING in the game that states that it is impossible. If so, then give me that line of code and I'll accept it. Until then, have fun with your "I think X because Y" arguments.still u dont reached the lv99 too and in ur avatar that is the correct lv then u can see how price changeing by time.
I don't need to reach lvl 99 to check the Auction House.when i started here the ob the golen charm still dont was ~1,2m like in harshland atm. how price gone up, go up the skills too and idk but maybe here too the demon quickshot not 1-2m, or here that cheap?
Demon Quick Shot is around 20-25 million generally. And your point?i dont said each but few skill really expensive same like few eq too.
What's your point?
Seriously, stop arguing cultivation based on costs. That is the most ridiculous argument stance possible right next to claiming that Boutique trumps cultivation.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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..but...but Boutique DOES trump Cultivation...!
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Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »In this case, then you really can't say much, if you're on a different version of PWI. The economy here is a lot different than other versions. For instance, in MY-EN, the Gold price is much higher than over here (even though we still get a lot of QQ for it). You can't really compare the two, as much as you want to. Just play the game here and get used to it, maybe...?
b:cutenot for comparasion but in pw my few ppl bought for 650m and that 2,5year old server, here too can see after 1 year and i bet here too will be double than atm.
i know here the economy better but u too noticed bit different in golden charm price now and in begning of ob. economy better here ofc but another side pwi stilll young compared with pw my, and ofc here situation is better but everything more expensive by months.Everything is possible with time. There is NOTHING in the game that states that it is impossible. If so, then give me that line of code and I'll accept it. Until then, have fun with your "I think X because Y" arguments.
this know everybody only not everybody have a half life for farming out a rank8 or grade 16 weapon XD (just for extreme example )Quote:
still u dont reached the lv99 too and in ur avatar that is the correct lv then u can see how price changeing by time.
I don't need to reach lvl 99 to check the Auction House.Demon Quick Shot is around 20-25 million generally. And your point?
will be same when u reach ur fiunal lv, because u talk about lv99/100 atm. i agree who reached it, but they dont really said they dont farmed after 99 and dont used real cash only everything just pvp after 99...0 -
Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »i know here the economy better but u too noticed bit different in golden charm price now and in begning of ob. economy better here ofc but another side pwi stilll young compared with pw my, and ofc here situation is better but everything more expensive by months.
... The economies are different. The in-game currencies are different. The player bases are different. You have absolutely no grounds for assuming that the in-game economies will mirror each other.
And even if you did, arguing cultivation based on costs is still not a valid argument.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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slightly off topic, but i highly doubt aster has gone without spending a dime on pw, he has plenty of money to do so, if hes still at his place of employment that he disclosed to myself :P. that, and it didnt hurt to start a small fortune being an officer in a guild that owned half the map
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kind of a silly example, if i might say so myself.
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WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »WHY WONT MY AVATAR SHOW IM 90!?
It is clearly telling you that your character design is not hot enough. Or maybe it's the chest.
I wouldn't know, haven't seen it.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »... The economies are different. The in-game currencies are different. The player bases are different. You have absolutely no grounds for assuming that the in-game economies will mirror each other.
economy is different, this is why needed more time for raising to double each thing cost.
but its f2p and in every f2p pw is something same. price never gone lower or stay in longer term, u can do anything,sadly but true, time by time price raising and its more profit the dev team (why? iif everytime worth more ur real cash then more people pay instead farm for money, ofc allways will be farmers but they must do harder work year by year for similiar profit => this is how f2p work between pw servers the only difference is the price raising speed)0 -
Well sage archers seem fine to me, balanced. Even though I haven't got an archer that LVL but sage will save me from dieing all the time as archer... lack of defensive skills is not what I am used to. b:surrender.
Bleh, if those archers that quit after they got sage, then why did they play archer in the first place?
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Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »this know everybody only not everybody have a half life for farming out a rank8 or grade 16 weapon XD (just for extreme example )
Not arguing about everyone. And it is perfectly possible to do. Since it's not impossible, your claim is false. Do you understand what this means?will be same when u reach ur fiunal lv, because u talk about lv99/100 atm. i agree who reached it, but they dont really said they dont farmed after 99 and dont used real cash only everything just pvp after 99...
So far, you have succumbed to loads of logical fallacies, such as:
Proof by example (Just because one skill costs a lot does not mean they all do)
Ad Hominem (Just because I'm not 99 does not mean I'm wrong)
Appeal to poverty (Just because one side costs more does not make it worse by default)
@Waffle: Aww, I was expecting cuter fashion.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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go back to your hamster cage, rodent!Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »*slowly raises hand*
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WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »go back to your hamster cage, rodent!
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Olba - Sanctuary wrote: »Not arguing about everyone. And it is perfectly possible to do. Since it's not impossible, your claim is false. Do you understand what this means?
So far, you have succumbed to loads of logical fallacies, such as:
Proof by example (Just because one skill costs a lot does not mean they all do)
Ad Hominem (Just because I'm not 99 does not mean I'm wrong)
Appeal to poverty (Just because one side costs more does not make it worse by default)
not all skill but u talked about all skill, so u must get all and all gear,few skill more expensive (same like gear-example crit shoes or tt99 chest compared with other part), only later u realize if u dont use cash how many farm u must do if u want ur final eq and i dont talk about refine. (about that only that skills expensive in ur path what u use often, like wizz the earth shield and few other skill and mastery and archer the dartle,stun etc, who care about how mucha frost arrow?)
i talked about that when u reach the 99 the 1,2m charm or 20m skill dont will be same 1,2m and 20m.
possible just need a ton of time XDNot arguing about everyone. And it is perfectly possible to do. Since it's not impossible, your claim is false. Do you understand what this means?0 -
Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »not all skill but u talked about all skill, so u must get all and all gear,few skill more expensive (same like gear-example crit shoes or tt99 chest compared with other part), only later u realize if u dont use cash how many farm u must do if u want ur final eq and i dont talk about refine. (about that only that skills expensive in ur path what u use often, like wizz the earth shield and few other skill and mastery and archer the dartle,stun etc, who care about how mucha frost arrow?)
Again, appealing to poverty is a logical fallacy, does not make your argument correct.i talked about that when u reach the 99 the 1,2m charm or 20m skill dont will be same 1,2m and 20m.
What do you know about that? For the record, I don't need to be 99 to buy the skill books, I could buy them right now. Or, for the record, I could reach 99 before the economy could be screwed. And again, you're trying to prove your point with ad hominem, that is, you are arguing that my point is wrong because of who I am or because of an attribute that I have. That's alike to saying that a person is wrong because they're black. Have fun with that.If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.
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WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »slightly off topic, but i highly doubt aster has gone without spending a dime on pw, he has plenty of money to do so, if hes still at his place of employment that he disclosed to myself :P. that, and it didnt hurt to start a small fortune being an officer in a guild that owned half the map.
kind of a silly example, if i might say so myself.
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actually, Astypoo didn't spend a dime on PW. all that gear were obtained through farming mini wbs and merchanting. Ast seized the opportunity when packs were young to get/begged her way into getting some really good deals, lolElena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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so youre sayin he hasnt spent a dime on fashions, or charms or anything at all :P? still find that highly improbable.Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »actually, Astypoo didn't spend a dime on PW. all that gear were obtained through farming mini wbs and merchanting. Ast seized the opportunity when packs were young to get/begged her way into getting some really good deals, lol[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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she thinks the game is too silly/unstable to spend money on.
she'd tell me about her deals all the time, during the anni pack sales, her coin pool would go from like 60m to 0 to 80m to 0 etc etc in a matter of days, even had to borrow money from me sometimes when she found a deal b:chuckle. it was literally constant event item trading.
to be fair she also won that 9tails, which she sold for like 80m then bought another a few weeks later for much, much, cheaper...it was just stuff like that. i dont know about Ast's early days whether she spent money or no, but all that gear, that white wedding dress of hers, is not cash shopped.Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
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yes, thats what im refering to, im stating it is entirely improbable to go through an entire gaming career and not spend money :P. to be fair, i know about all of that, especially one night before our very first dragon orb sale, recommended he buy gold at like 100k because of a forum tip. dreamweaver somehow got the orb sale before us, no one on sanc knew. we both net a nice profit that night ;DQuilue - Sanctuary wrote: »she thinks the game is too silly/unstable to spend money on.
she'd tell me about her deals all the time, during the anni pack sales, her coin pool would go from like 60m to 0 to 80m to 0 etc etc in a matter of days, even had to borrow money from me sometimes when she found a deal b:chuckle. it was literally constant event item trading.
to be fair she also won that 9tails, which she sold for like 80m then bought another a few weeks later for much, much, cheaper...it was just stuff like that. i dont know about Ast's early days whether she spent money or no, but all that gear, that white wedding dress of hers, is not cash shopped.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I'll go sage on my main, because I find it more useful for PVE. I don't like PVP
But my main is only 78 so yeah ^^; I've got plenty of time to learn more about both.
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