Should I charge to go and Res people?

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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    i could answer that... but im pretty sure id disgust a lot of people and get banned :x

    Please don't, I enjoy eating waffles and would rather not have the experience ruined...

    *looks around to make sure nobody can hear*
    Bob, send me the answer in a private messageb:avoid
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Oh MANray_, I thought you were against personal attacks. Notice I've never actually said anything about you as a person, just that your posts were idiotic.

    The post you just made concerning me shows how immature you truly are, it seems Hunter was right about you. Oh, and if you're going to insult me at least make a little sense, honestly.. what do waffles and juice have to do with sex?

    Oh, i guess encouraging people to flame me is nothing personal then... Don't mention me in your posts idiot. Don't address me. Stop having wet dreams about me.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh, i guess encouraging people to flame me is nothing personal then... Don't mention me in your posts idiot. Don't address me. Stop having wet dreams about me.

    More personal attacks? Is that all you're able to do now? MANray_ I feel so bad for you, you can't prove anything because you lack the knowledge most of us have and because of that you have to resort to personal attacks, and to someone that has done you no wrong. Please stop making yourself look like a fool, I'm getting sad again b:sad
  • didi
    didi Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    This thread is about flying or teleporting across the map to revive someone, not to charge for your services in a squad. This thread is about the Cleric's Revive skill and using any other class as an example for your argument makes it invalid. A Barb can't charge because their JOB is to tank, and because of that they get first pick in TT. A Cleric's JOB is to HEAL, not rez, and for that we get 2nd pick in TT.

    The only reason a Cleric is ever obligated to revive someone is if they are in the same instance trying to achieve a common goal, such as an FB/FC/TT. Let this be a message to all people:

    A CLERIC'S JOB IS NOT TO REVIVE YOU, BUT TO HEAL YOU. BECAUSE OF THIS WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO FLY ACROSS THE MAP AND REVIVE YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE DUMB ENOUGH TO GET KILLED.

    OUR JOB IS TO HEAL, NOT TO REVIVE, JUST LIKE A BARBARIAN'S JOB IS TO TANK SO PLEASE STOP TRYING TO USE THE TANK AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THAT IS AN INVALID ARGUMENT.

    THEY GET FIRST PICK IN TT FOR TANKING LIKE CLERICS GET SECOND PICK ON TT FOR HEALING. IF A BARB WANTS TO CHARGE FOR TANKING THEN CLERICS CAN CHARGE FOR HEALING AS WELL AS REZZING.

    If you want me to elaborate my message, I will. But I think my message is pretty clear. Clerics and Barbs should not recieve payment for performing their main role in a squad, not should Clerics charge to revive someone in a squad because they are working for a common goal. But this isn't about squadwork, it's about Clerics having to fly across the map.

    Although you would like to keep them seperate, one is going to have an affect on the other.

    Will a barb feel more inclined to charge their guild mates to tank a boss others can't tank? Is a Wis more inclined to charge for tanking mantavit. Should a wiz get more then they already are in tt?
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    More personal attacks? Is that all you're able to do now? MANray_ I feel so bad for you, you can't prove anything because you lack the knowledge most of us have and because of that you have to resort to personal attacks, and to someone that has done you no wrong. Please stop making yourself look like a fool, I'm getting sad again b:sad

    Go cry me a river dog, STFU.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    didi wrote: »
    Although you would like to keep them seperate, one is going to have an affect on the other.

    Will a barb feel more inclined to charge their guild mates to tank a boss others can't tank? Is a Wis more inclined to charge for tanking mantavit. Should a wiz get more then they already are in tt?

    You fail to understand the point here. Some Clerics would like to charge for reviving others because the skill in no way benefits them and they have to take time out of their day to go and revive them.

    A Cleric's main job is to heal, not to revive the dead. However when they are squadded a Cleric is obligated revive the fallen squad member. You think a Barb or a Wiz should charge for tanking a boss, but the Barb's main job is to tank. As for the Wizard I say sure, let them charge. Tanking isn't their main job so if they want to charge for it then let them, however that is a stupid idea because Manta is only a minor boss. It's extremely easy to find someone to tank him for free and unlike giving a Revive... tanking Manta doesn't preserve 90% of your xp now does it?
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Go cry me a river dog, STFU.

    I think somebody is angry, does MANray_ need a timeout? b:laugh
  • Nexdonum - Lost City
    Nexdonum - Lost City Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Go cry me a river dog, STFU.



    You should probably attempt to learn to be the bigger man, and walk away with your tail between your legs. You are not convincing anyone that you are more than a blatantly ignorant troll, and cannot realize that your own ignorance is astounding.



    Seriously, you started out halfway decent with your responses, but you took the bait, and allowed yourself to wither into a frail, stupid troll. You should learn when it's time to cut your losses and move on. Seriously.
    We have two ears and one tongue so that we would listen more and talk less. - Diogenes

    It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them. - Pierre Beaumarchais

    You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into. - Unknown
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Nexdonum - Lost City wrote: »
    Edit: Gah, ninja'd. Thanks for making my post insignificant Bob. :(

    i have a gift for doing that :3
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Please don't, I enjoy eating waffles and would rather not have the experience ruined...

    *looks around to make sure nobody can hear*
    Bob, send me the answer in a private messageb:avoid

    there's too many posibilities involving different body positions and very graphical mental images, I may scar you for life. So I will spare your mentality this day.
  • Nexdonum - Lost City
    Nexdonum - Lost City Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    i have a gift for doing that :3



    there's too many posibilities involving different body positions and very graphical mental images, I may scar you for life. So I will spare your mentality this day.



    I've noticed. b:laugh





    And, you're doing him a disservice by not expanding his knowledge, ijs.


    b:chuckle
    b:victory
    We have two ears and one tongue so that we would listen more and talk less. - Diogenes

    It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them. - Pierre Beaumarchais

    You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into. - Unknown
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Nexdonum - Lost City wrote: »
    You should probably attempt to learn to be the bigger man, and walk away with your tail between your legs. You are not convincing anyone that you are more than a blatantly ignorant troll, and cannot realize that your own ignorance is astounding.



    Seriously, you started out halfway decent with your responses, but you took the bait, and allowed yourself to wither into a frail, stupid troll. You should learn when it's time to cut your losses and move on. Seriously.

    He has a point, you've failed to show us any true reasoning behind your opinion and try to say that high level Cleric's opinions are void because you can't come up with a decent argument for your points. After that you resort to a pathetic attempt to flame people. Give it up dude, you've lost.
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »

    there's too many posibilities involving different body positions and very graphical mental images, I may scar you for life. So I will spare your mentality this day.

    Mabye I should experiment by myself thenb:sin
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

    Mabye I should experiment by myself thenb:sin

    Make sure not to use whole wheat waffles. Lose their texture too fast.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Thanks for the sig Ophida :3
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Make sure not to use whole wheat waffles. Lose their texture too fast.

    You'd know wouldn't you...b:scorn
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Did your mother dropped you on your head as a child? Are you a pervie sicko? Why would you insist on being abused? I'm trough with this "discussion". Already gave the lot of you every chance for civilized discourse. Leave me the hell alone. I've already proven i'll neither back away nor be bullied. What's the point idiot? Why do you enjoy people calling you names? Are you getting off right now? Ok stupid, i'll spell it out for you S-H-U-T U-P.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I recommend Bisquick Waffles for extra absorbency.

    or just find WaffleChan xD. i kid :P
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Did your mother dropped you on your head as a child? Are you a pervie sicko? Why would you insist on being abused? I'm trough with this "discussion". Already gave the lot of you every chance for civilized discourse. Leave me the hell alone. I've already proven i'll neither back away nor be bullied. What's the point idiot? Why do you enjoy people calling you names? Are you getting off right now? Ok stupid, i'll spell it out for you S-H-U-T U-P.

    First of all... please use the proper tense for your words, it's "drop" not "dropped". With that said, I can say this:

    It's not the name calling I find amusing, it's the pathetic attempt you make to flame me. Your insults make virtually no sense and you just keep getting angrier and angrier. Do you like being dominated? Because in allowing me to anger you, you've given me power over you.

    The more you insult me and the less affected I am by it the angrier you become. You see that your insults don't achieve their desired affect and that just burns you to the core. So you keep on trying, but you never seem to get that result you want, I never seem to become angry.

    And do you know why, MANray_? It's because unlike you I'm in control, I don't allow someone else to get to me in the way I've gotten to you. Quit trying to insult me before you cause yourself more anger, because that seems to be the only result if you continue.
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    First of all... please use the proper tense for your words, it's "drop" not "dropped". With that said, I can say this:

    It's not the name calling I find amusing, it's the pathetic attempt you make to flame me. Your insults make virtually no sense and you just keep getting angrier and angrier. Do you like being dominated? Because in allowing me to anger you, you've given me power over you.

    The more you insult me and the less affected I am by it the angrier you become. You see that your insults don't achieve their desired affect and that just burns you to the core. So you keep on trying, but you never seem to get that result you want, I never seem to become angry.

    And do you know why, MANray_? It's because unlike you I'm in control, I don't allow someone else to get to me in the way I've gotten to you. Quit trying to insult me before you cause yourself more anger, because that seems to be the only result if you continue.

    What cheap **** flic did you get this reasoning from? You "got" to me? Seriously, you're like those stalkers who think restraining orders are love letters. I will simply not let your berating me go unchallenged. COMPRENDE?
    I'm not reading your every post trying to figure your emotions, i really couldn't care less what you feel. You seem unable to stop addressing me? Why? Just freaking stop you psycho. You want to charge people for your underleveled res? By all means don't let my opinion stop you. You don't see me go around telling everyone what an oracled noob you are, nor that squading you is a guaranteed wipe and trust me i do think so.

    Be the bigger man piece of **** and quit.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ^
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    ^
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    How cute, another troll. Really, man go relieve your own stress...
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i don't have stress ^^

    I have the unique ability to express what everyone else is feeling, but are too shy to say it. So I say it for them.
  • Malei - Sanctuary
    Malei - Sanctuary Posts: 281 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What cheap **** flic did you get this reasoning from? You "got" to me? Seriously, you're like those stalkers who think restraining orders are love letters. I will simply not let your berating me go unchallenged. COMPRENDE?
    I'm not reading your every post trying to figure your emotions, i really couldn't care less what you feel. You seem unable to stop addressing me? Why? Just freaking stop you psycho. You want to charge people for your underleveled res? By all means don't let my opinion stop you. You don't see me go around telling everyone what an oracled noob you are, nor that squading you is a guaranteed wipe and trust me i do think so.

    Be the bigger man piece of **** and quit.

    Okay, I got to admit. That was hilarious to read.

    I think that's the problem with most internet trolls today. They're just obsessed freaks wanting to make a difference in someone's life, negative being the way they chose. Never thought about the whole restraining order thing. It makes sense XD

    This topic is sooo derailed. And I just helped. *rewards herself with a cookie*b:chuckle
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    What cheap **** flic did you get this reasoning from? You "got" to me? Seriously, you're like those stalkers who think restraining orders are love letters. I will simply not let your berating me go unchallenged. COMPRENDE?
    I'm not reading your every post trying to figure your emotions, i really couldn't care less what you feel. You seem unable to stop addressing me? Why? Just freaking stop you psycho. You want to charge people for your underleveled res? By all means don't let my opinion stop you. You don't see me go around telling everyone what an oracled noob you are, nor that squading you is a guaranteed wipe and trust me i do think so.

    Be the bigger man piece of **** and quit.

    MANray_ I get my reasoning by what you have shown me. I am already the bigger man simply because I don't have to resort to insults like you do. I am able to calmly talk about the subject and be reasonable, unlike you.

    As I said before, I either revive you or don't, if I want to charge then I will, but I do appreciate your approval... I guess. As for that snide comment about me using oracles, I've played this game for longer than you and I have gone 90 un-oracled levels, before you make assumptions like that at least get your facts.

    Anyway, I'm sad to see you still haven't realized the only way to not look like an idiot is to just stop posting, it's very simple really. I'm in no way trying to make you look like a fool, you do that very well on your own. Feel free to keep posting trash, it does provide some entertainment in my boring day of TT runs.

    Also.. ROFL!!!@Bob's pic xD
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    i don't have stress ^^

    I have the unique ability to express what everyone else is feeling, but are too shy to say it. So I say it for them.

    No, you don't. Otherwise the pic would have shown you with a pic up your...

    Now, g2g do some stuff. Would it be to much trouble for you guys to keep your "witty" comebacks organized so it's easier for me to insult you when i get back?

    Edit; @Zanryu; Oh! You got all self righteous cuz you think someone's saying things about you that aren't true... Go back and l2read noob. I tried to have an argument and did not start flaming until repeatedly insulted. You apparently just jumped in without having a clue. This thread is proof i do not lie if someone was to manage reading through the flames. So don't act like your own **** doesn't stink to high heaven. You're nothing but an idiot and your act fools no one. Go freaking die.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No, you don't. Otherwise the pic would have shown you with a pic up your...

    Now, g2g do some stuff. Would it be to much trouble for you guys to keep your "witty" comebacks organized so it's easier for me to insult you when i get back?

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    me thinks ur obsessed with things up other things butts.
  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No, you don't. Otherwise the pic would have shown you with a pic up your...

    Now, g2g do some stuff. Would it be to much trouble for you guys to keep your "witty" comebacks organized so it's easier for me to insult you when i get back?

    As tough as you're trying to look with that post MANray_, you're finally accepting defeat. I'm proud of you. If you do decide to show your face around here again I do hope that you've calmed down enough not to troll anything that moves, because really... trolling just shows how pathetic you are, especially when you fail at it.

    EDIT: I forgot to ask... can we get some cake in here? I'm starved :(
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I admit nothing, if i left is because i actually do have a life outside of this forums. I'm however content to let things stand as they are, will even let Bowlinbob's last attempt at a crack (no pun intended) slide, since whatever i had to say on the subject i've already stated and my point of view (whatever insults thrown my way) remains unchallenged.

    Do start hating on me again and i'll be back. Really hate to join spoon's fan club but i do miss him playing the beat cop bit on the forums. Things have really gone downhill since he left...
  • Faith_z - Sanctuary
    Faith_z - Sanctuary Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    People people, go back into your corners and talk some sense into yourself. This thread, as many, started out nice and goes into a flame war of a couple of people that want to have the final word so they can tell themselves they have won. To me, that makes you all losers.
    Stop flaming each other, stay on topic, and if you cant stop the argument stop reading the topic or start sending each other nice private messages to get your kicks, geeez
    My caracters:
    Faith_z - 7x Cleric (main)
    HaveFaith_z - 5x Veno
    Ivory_Soul -3x Psychic

    Dont give me an attitude, I got one of my own!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Saitadatude FTW :P
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I wouldn't and if they are to far away or off radar ignore the pm.They may not like the fact that you have lvl ?? revive as well.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,222 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I admit nothing, if i left is because i actually do have a life outside of this forums. I'm however content to let things stand as they are, will even let Bowlinbob's last attempt at a crack (no pun intended) slide, since whatever i had to say on the subject i've already stated and my point of view (whatever insults thrown my way) remains unchallenged.

    Do start hating on me again and i'll be back. Really hate to join spoon's fan club but i do miss him playing the beat cop bit on the forums. Things have really gone downhill since he left...

    Why are you still posting? Every cleric here thinks you are an idiot. You have no knowledge at all behind your points, you level 6X for gods sake and your telling level 90+ clerics that they are wrong? You are either stupid or you have way to big an ego.

    If spoon's was here im 99.99% certain you would of been warned and then removed from the forums. Spoons was a good GM and a nice one at that but he really couldn't stand idiots and trolls like yourself.
    Executor Of Reunited ~ Level 3 ~ Level 85+ ~ No Drama, No Pressure Faction.

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  • Zanryu - Dreamweaver
    Zanryu - Dreamweaver Posts: 7,261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Why are you still posting? Every cleric here thinks you are an idiot. You have no knowledge at all behind your points, you level 6X for gods sake and your telling level 90+ clerics that they are wrong? You are either stupid or you have way to big an ego.

    If spoon's was here im 99.99% certain you would of been warned and then removed from the forums. Spoons was a good GM and a nice one at that but he really couldn't stand idiots and trolls like yourself.

    Agreed. b:sad

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