Cleric Self rez

Luixo - Sanctuary

But if your dead, your dead, you cant rescue yourself like in real life

Unless you have scrolls

Risingson - Lost City

Technotic - Sanctuary wrote: »

I respond with the same post because you haven't answered it. You just keep saying, "uhh.. no we're not overpowered because... well just because!" Lets flip it AGAIN. Let someone hit you 2-3 times in PvP before you attack back. Lets see how well you do. Until then, stfu

No, no. I answered you. Dozens of people answered you, you other personality just prevents you from actually seeing it. Take a look around, carefully read every pathetic thread you started, try to make your other self shut up and pay attention. You'll see that you're just a stubborn child crying out loud because his toy is older than his neighbor's toy.

Hazumu - Dreamweaver

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Merchant > Misc > Purchase Rez scroll.

~Saitada

Rez scrolls in the end are convenient only for the squad and the run. Not the cleric personally. They still lose the same amount of xp that other classes don't.

FatherTed - Dreamweaver

I'd be happy enough with a reduced cooldown on res scrolls - don't see the need for reduced exp loss or anything. Buying res scrolls and GAs is just part of the job, and a price I am willing to pay to play such a fun class.

Technotic - Sanctuary

Risingson - Lost City wrote: »

No, no. I answered you. Dozens of people answered you, you other personality just prevents you from actually seeing it. Take a look around, carefully read every pathetic thread you started, try to make your other self shut up and pay attention. You'll see that you're just a stubborn child crying out loud because his toy is older than his neighbor's toy.

How does an archer hit an assassin?

Asperitas - Lost City

Technotic - Sanctuary wrote: »

How does an archer hit an assassin?

when the sin comes to hit you, you survive his initial hit using a plethora of skills/genie skills available to you, then you fight back.

how do you think BMs retaliate, since we're always getting hit first. we survive, then we fight back.

GSnipes - Raging Tide

dont stray from the topic
as i can see this would be really helpful to ALL of PWIb:pleased
cuz i am tired of clerics bailing on TT runs cuz they loose so much exp or they cant get back to a certain spot cuz we rushed ,etc

anwynd

i think this would be great to have gotta luv your clericsb:victory

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

and . . many cleric say they don't has rez scroll . .
so it not something good for the cleric them self . .
since it lower their money b:bye

Grippieluver - Lost City

uhmmm wudnt this make a lil bit of OP?

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

Maybe make it not working if killed by player ?
Just like bramble not reflect on pvp.
They can make soul of vengeance not disappear even after dead
=( why can't make these one has unique trigger to ?

Grippieluver - Lost City

^ this

YordaUjain - Dreamweaver

Hazumu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Idon't think this would make Clerics overpowered. Actually right now clerics have a huge disadvantage in the sense that if a suad wipe occurs, it's the cleric that goes to town to give a exp saving rez to teammates, everytime. In a realy bad run I can lose up to nearer 10% and that's quite honestly very frustrating, especially so, if a squadie then starts moaning about losing 1%.

Keeping that in mind, giving clerics a self rez to save at least a small portion of exp would BALANCE them out in regard to other classes instead of making them OP.

Clerics already are way weaker than other classes in battle (I know there are kickass clerics, that makes no difference) so it'd be nice to have at least somekind of advantage over the other classes. And no, heals don't count since most classes can self heal as well and hits way harder.

I agree. This needs to be looked into.

PequetteV - Lost City

no self rez for ep cause of pvp/pk problem
but they could add special rez scroll usable by cleric only that reduce 50% exp lost

Saitada - Sanctuary

Hazumu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Rez scrolls in the end are convenient only for the squad and the run. Not the cleric personally. They still lose the same amount of xp that other classes don't.

Funny. My cleric uses Rez scrolls and Guardian scrolls in combination and never loses any xp at all. I don't see what the problem is. There is already a method in place in the game to do exactly what is being discussed here. Rez scroll + Guardian scroll = Resurrection with no xp loss. And guess what! It is available to EVERYONE.

Seems pretty simple to me.

~Saitada

Frijolero - Sanctuary

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Funny. My cleric uses Rez scrolls and Guardian scrolls in combination and never loses any xp at all. I don't see what the problem is. There is already a method in place in the game to do exactly what is being discussed here. Rez scroll + Guardian scroll = Resurrection with no xp loss. And guess what! It is available to EVERYONE.

Seems pretty simple to me.

~Saitada

The thing is you need around 100K+ coins every time you get killed. I know won't be much of a problem on higher levels where coins are more aviable, but let's face it, clerics have hard time gathering coins.

Also, the same reason can be given to all suqad members: why the cleric only need to spend 100k+ coins per death if he doesn't wanna loose exp?

More than the reason of havin' a paid option for doing it, I think a free option is always good.

Here's my two cents. I was thinkin' on postin' it on a separate thread, but better not double post the same suggestion.

Skill: Rearise
Learned at lvl: 64
Range: Self cast
Mana: 1085
Channel: 6.0 seconds
Cast: 1.0 seconds
Cooldown: 1.0 seconds
Weapon: Unarmed, Magic Instruments
Requisite: Cultivation Aware of Principle, Revive lvl 10

Cast an aura that binds the caster's soul to his body. Decreases potential experience loss from dying by 90%. Will come back with 10% of total HP and MP. Last 30 minutes.

Requires one spark

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

As i heard . . unlimited argue. b:cry
Don't you love to help cleric ? b:laugh
Btw Frijolero make that skill not working if killed by player. . so people not start Q.Q saying cleric OP.
Just a suggestion. =(

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Skill: Rearise
Learned at lvl: 64
Range: Self cast
Mana: 1085
Channel: 6.0 seconds
Cast: 1.0 seconds
Cooldown: 1.0 seconds
Weapon: Unarmed, Magic Instruments
Requisite: Cultivation Aware of Principle, Revive lvl 10

Cast an aura that binds the caster's soul to his body. Decreases potential experience loss from dying by 90%. Will come back with 10% of total HP and MP. Last 30 minutes.wait....does that mean if you get killed by a mob and is still in the mob's range it will just keel you again and again if you still be in aggro range? b:shocked

Requires one spark and requires exp loss to be activated. or something so it can't be used due to PK death.

fixed...sort of?

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

Skill: Rearise
Learned at lvl: 64
Range: Self cast
Mana: 1085
Channel: 6.0 seconds
Cast: 1.0 seconds
Cooldown: 1.0 seconds
Weapon: Unarmed, Magic Instruments
Requisite: Cultivation Aware of Principle, Revive lvl 10

Cast an aura that binds the caster's soul to his body. Decreases potential experience loss from dying by 90%. Will come back with 10% of total HP and MP. Last 30 minutes.wait....does that mean if you get killed by a mob and is still in the mob's range it will just keel you again and again if you still be in aggro range? b:shocked

Hm maybe the mob lost agro ? Well if you not died right on mob original place i guess . . . it safe. b:surrender

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

Requires one spark and requires exp loss to be activated. or something so it can't be used due to PK death.

fixed...sort of?

Genius. b:laugh

MagicHamsta - Lost City

also make it like a choice (so that you don't end up dying 10000 times for 30 minutes.)
not an auto revive like assassins have.
b:surrender
what if you has another cleric there with you mayhaps with level 11 rez?
b:puzzled
me pretty sure you would prefer that then the 10% exp loss.

Grippieluver - Lost City

^ thisb:pleased

Frijolero - Sanctuary

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Btw Frijolero make that skill not working if killed by player. . so people not start Q.Q saying cleric OP.
Just a suggestion. =(

As far as I know rez scroll and guardian scrolls can be used even on pk mode. I don't see why the skill could be considered OP on pk. You'll still got the kill and drops if any. Maybe if the cleric is charmed could lead to an advantage, but still it'll be the same as using a res croll + guardian scroll combo.

Perhaps the skill could be implemented the way it won't trigger if you are red named or with the swords on your nick, just like what happens with heals n' buff when you try cast em' on a red named player.

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

Cast an aura that binds the caster's soul to his body. Decreases potential experience loss from dying by 90%. Will come back with 10% of total HP and MP. Last 30 minutes.wait....does that mean if you get killed by a mob and is still in the mob's range it will just keel you again and again if you still be in aggro range? b:shocked

If any class char ressurect within a mob's aggro range by any means (revive spell, scroll, etc.), you will get aggro. The skill won't do any different than how the game manages aggro rite now .

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

Requires one spark and requires exp loss to be activated. or something so it can't be used due to PK death.

fixed...sort of?

adding an exp cost will immediately negate the whole purpose of the spell. As I said a lil' above on this post, I don't see why this spell can be OP on pk mode.

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

also make it like a choice (so that you don't end up dying 10000 times for 30 minutes.)
not an auto revive like assassins have.

That's the idea. The skill will enable the ressurrect button once you die, acting as a lvl 10 revive spell. It's not like the TB's skill.

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

what if you has another cleric there with you mayhaps with level 11 rez?
b:puzzled
me pretty sure you would prefer that then the 10% exp loss.

The skill act as if you cast revive on yourself. As the game mechanic goes so far, any res spell casted won't override this skill. Anyways, this could be considered as a drawaback for the skill, so even a more balanced skill will be.

ElderSig - Dreamweaver

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

The skill act as if you cast revive on yourself. As the game mechanic goes so far, any res spell casted won't override this skill. Anyways, this could be considered as a drawaback for the skill, so even a more balanced skill will be.

Might have trouble with this, I'm pretty sure as the code stands, that a cleric casting revive overrides any previous revives cast upon that target. I'd have to test to know for sure though.

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

If any class char ressurect within a mob's aggro range by any means (revive spell, scroll, etc.), you will get aggro. The skill won't do any different than how the game manages aggro rite now .

you made it sound like teh caster has no choice and it will continually bring them alive as soon as they die lols.....

adding an exp cost will immediately negate the whole purpose of the spell. As I said a lil' above on this post, I don't see why this spell can be OP on pk mode.

not a cost, a prerequisite. that there needs to be teh risk of exp loss (which would mean a PvE death not a PvP death)

That's the idea. The skill will enable the ressurrect button once you die, acting as a lvl 10 revive spell. It's not like the TB's skill.

yesh that would be better lol.

The skill act as if you cast revive on yourself. As the game mechanic goes so far, any res spell casted won't override this skill. Anyways, this could be considered as a drawaback for the skill, so even a more balanced skill will be.

rawr~
10 characters
also ya um what if you has a cleric with level 11 res and would prefer no exp loss to 10%?

Frijolero - Sanctuary

ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Might have trouble with this, I'm pretty sure as the code stands, that a cleric casting revive overrides any previous revives cast upon that target. I'd have to test to know for sure though.

I remember read on cleric fuorums that revive is a first come-first served spell. So any revive won't overrive the prior rev casted before.

But if at the end the revive acts as a LIFO stack (newer overrides older), then even better, cause that way you can wait for that sage revive if you don't wanna loose exp, or just use the 10% loss self revive.

Bowlinbob - Lost City

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

I remember read on cleric fuorums that revive is a first come-first served spell. So any revive won't overrive the prior rev casted before.

But if at the end the revive acts as a LIFO stack (newer overrides older), then even better, cause that way you can wait for that sage revive if you don't wanna loose exp, or just use the 10% loss self revive.

the last casted revive overwrites the previous.-ive tested-

Also: demon has 0% exp loss too, not just sage.

Frijolero - Sanctuary

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

If any class char ressurect within a mob's aggro range by any means (revive spell, scroll, etc.), you will get aggro. The skill won't do any different than how the game manages aggro rite now .

you made it sound like teh caster has no choice and it will continually bring them alive as soon as they die lols.....

When you die, you automatically looses aggro, the mob gets surrounded by the yellow bubble, regen and goes back to its preset starting position. Im pretty sure you've seen that before. This is not changed by the spell.

If you resurrect near the mob, and he is aggresive. he'll attack you as soon as he sees you.

MagicHamsta - Lost City

Frijolero - Sanctuary wrote: »

When you die, you automatically looses aggro, the mob gets surrounded by the yellow bubble, regen and goes back to its preset starting position. Im pretty sure you've seen that before. This is not changed by the spell.

If you resurrect near the mob, and he is aggresive. he'll attack you as soon as he sees you.

people can and occasionally do die at teh mob's preset starting point.
b:sweat

and in a few unfortunate cases, me died at another mob's preset starting point.
xD

Grippieluver - Lost City

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

people can and occasionally do die at teh mob's preset starting point.
b:sweat

and in a few unfortunate cases, me died at another mob's preset starting point.
xD

^ thish b:sad

MagicHamsta - Lost City

yep
it be like woot me are kiting~ kiting~ kiting~ *runs into another mob.*
*BLAM!*
DX
*MagicHamsta has Fallen.*
:<