The only way Archer Guide

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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    pff only archers

    helpless, injured chars is an aphrodisiac for clerics
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    magic classes dont need math lol.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Falcondance - Heavens Tear
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Ast, call me a noob if this has been going on for awhile and I haven't noticed, but you're banned according to your forum posts. What's up?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    "I always thought I'd be the only one doing crazy things for people who would never care enough to do it back or to act like idiots or be entirely vulnerable, and making someone fall in love with you is easy, and flying 3000 miles on four days notice because you can't just sit there and do nothing and breathe into telephones is not everyone's idea of love, but it is the way I can recognize it because that is what I do."
    Sig pic by Nowitsawn
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Lady Asterelle obviously cannot post while she's banned.
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    he probably did something naughty to lady legy ):
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Lies!

    It was the excessive mathematics I tell you.
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    sureeee
    'doing math' is what it was :o.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Falcondance - Heavens Tear
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Ast must obviously be Legy's tutor.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    "I always thought I'd be the only one doing crazy things for people who would never care enough to do it back or to act like idiots or be entirely vulnerable, and making someone fall in love with you is easy, and flying 3000 miles on four days notice because you can't just sit there and do nothing and breathe into telephones is not everyone's idea of love, but it is the way I can recognize it because that is what I do."
    Sig pic by Nowitsawn
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I'm telling you. It was mathematics!

    lim (u->me) ʃe^x = f(u)^n

    See.
  • Falcondance - Heavens Tear
    Falcondance - Heavens Tear Posts: 699 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    i'm Telling You. It Was Mathematics!

    Lim (u->me) ʃe^x = F(u)^n

    See.

    Well played LMAO.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    "I always thought I'd be the only one doing crazy things for people who would never care enough to do it back or to act like idiots or be entirely vulnerable, and making someone fall in love with you is easy, and flying 3000 miles on four days notice because you can't just sit there and do nothing and breathe into telephones is not everyone's idea of love, but it is the way I can recognize it because that is what I do."
    Sig pic by Nowitsawn
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    You folks call it "doing math" nowadays?

    And here I was thinking you couldn't get names any weirder for it...
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    The copulation between species of the male and female persona forgoes an enthralling form of stimulation, thus rendering the theorum, recreational copulation yields instant gratification and merriment. :) bcuz i liek englush.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Trista_Zel - Dreamweaver
    Trista_Zel - Dreamweaver Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    The copulation between species of the male and female persona forgoes an enthralling form of stimulation, thus rendering the theorum, recreational copulation yields instant gratification and merriment. :) bcuz i liek englush.

    *opens mouth to speak*

    ...

    *closes mouth*
    Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality.
  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    The copulation between species of the male and female persona forgoes an enthralling form of stimulation, thus rendering the theorum, recreational copulation yields instant gratification and merriment. :) bcuz i liek englush.

    Male and female? Here I thought this was about female and female (and female) b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "People who quote themselves in their signatures are silly. I mean, they can just make up whatever **** they want, and since they said it in their siggie, its a quote." - Smobo
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    aster and i are both male under female pixels :P
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    aster and i are both male under female pixels :P

    You can both be female in our minds, so it still counts!
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    So is this more correct, then?


    -- Archer Damage Formula - Normal Attacks --

    Total Damage = (Physical Damage + Magical Damage)*(1+Attack Level/100)

    Physical Damage = (1 + Dex/150 + Bow Mastery %) * (Weapon Attack)
    Magical Damage = (Blazing Arrow %) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Weapon Attack = Weapon Damage + Garnet in Weapon + Rings + Char Level

    -- Archer Damage Formula - Skills and Sparks --

    Total Damage = (Physical Damage + Magical Damage)*(1+Attack Level/100)

    Physical Damage = (1 + Dex/150 + Bow Mastery % + Spark %) * (Weapon Attack) + (Skill Damage)
    Magical Damage = (Blazing Arrow %) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Weapon Attack = Weapon Damage + Garnet in Weapon + Rings + Char Level

    Notes:

    - Blazing Arrow applies to all normal attacks and Skill attacks that utilize only 1 unit of ammunition.
    - Archer Metal attacks (Lightning, etc.) converts Physical Damage portion into Metal Damage
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Elena youre going off topic here b:chuckle

    Seriously though, does it really matter how the formula looks? Regardless of whether one truely knows and understands the formula, its common sense to have all the atk boosting buffs up in order to deal max damage. That said, definitely atk increase shards and refines would further improve damage.

    Math is good for the brain but too much of it can be.....b:shocked
  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I think the formula is very close to:

    -- Archer Damage Formula - Normal Attacks --

    Total Damage = (Physical Damage + Magical Damage)*(1+(Attack Level-Defense Level)/100)

    Physical Damage = (1 + Dex/150 + Bow Mastery % + (-insert barb buff name-) %) * (Weapon Attack)*(1-Phys Def %)

    Magical Damage = Fire Damage*(1-Fire Def %) + Water Damage*(1-Water Def %) + Metal Damage*(1 - Metal Def %) + Earth Damage*(1-Earth Def %) + Wood Damage*(1-Wood Def %)

    Fire Damage = (Blazing Arrow % + Fire Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Water Damage = (Frostblade % + Water Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Earth Damage = (Earth Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Metal Damage = (Metal Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Wood Damage = (Wood Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Weapon Attack = Weapon Damage + Garnet in Weapon + Rings


    Gimme time to snazify it with formatting, and comb it for errors.

    I don't think its perfect, as I'm sure a lv 1 will not heal a level 102 with a smack (May as well though, not gonna deal much).

    Okay I think its all snazified now. I may do skills and sparks later, however this is starting to become almost as brain exploding to some people as archer stories.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "People who quote themselves in their signatures are silly. I mean, they can just make up whatever **** they want, and since they said it in their siggie, its a quote." - Smobo
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Don't try to include every possible buff.

    Otherwise, I'd have to point out how you're missing Spark damage bonus, Skill damage bonus, Gloom damage bonus, Frenzy damage bonus (You can proc Gloom with CH:S, switch to Broad Land, and then proc Frenzy), Revenge damage bonus, Frost Blade, and a myriad of genie skills.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    There smobo fixed it for you

    Water Damage = (Frostblade %) + Water Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Also where would the apoth pots stack? What about combined buffs? such as Blazing Arrow + Frostblade + Metal Buff + Wood Buff?
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Elena youre going off topic here b:chuckle

    So the ITT is now dirty yuri shorts?
    Seriously though, does it really matter how the formula looks? Regardless of whether one truely knows and understands the formula, its common sense to have all the atk boosting buffs up in order to deal max damage. That said, definitely atk increase shards and refines would further improve damage.

    Oh, you obviously don't study math. Common sense is not fun. Just as how, even if something is obvious, you also have to know why it is obvious. And you have to be able to write at least a few lines of equations or inequalities to prove it, or no one's going to believe you. And once you do, most of the normal people will shake in terror and just accept whatever jargon you wrote as "absolute truth".
    Math is good for the brain but too much of it can be.....b:shocked

    Math is good for the brain, but too much of it can be ... even more fun?
    If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.

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  • Smobo - Heavens Tear
    Smobo - Heavens Tear Posts: 386 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    There smobo fixed it for you

    Water Damage = (Frostblade %) + Water Buffs) * (Weapon Attack) + (Elemental Shard in Weapon)

    Also where would the apoth pots stack? What about combined buffs? such as Blazing Arrow + Frostblade + Metal Buff + Wood Buff?

    I can't see why they can't. Remeber most only last 2 mins and have a 2 min cooldown however...
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    "People who quote themselves in their signatures are silly. I mean, they can just make up whatever **** they want, and since they said it in their siggie, its a quote." - Smobo
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    So the ITT is now dirty yuri shorts?
    The inter-dimensional fantasy was more interesting b:dirty

    Oh, you obviously don't study math. Common sense is not fun. Just as how, even if something is obvious, you also have to know why it is obvious. And you have to be able to write at least a few lines of equations or inequalities to prove it, or no one's going to believe you. And once you do, most of the normal people will shake in terror and just accept whatever jargon you wrote as "absolute truth".
    Like this?
    #include<math.h>
    void main()
    {
    int buff_counter = 1;
    int buff_damage[10];
    int char_level;
    long damage = 100 * char_level;
    cin>>char_level;
    for(int i=0;i<10;i++)
    {
    cin>>buff_damage;
    damage = damage + (damage * buff_damage);
    }
    cout<<damage;
    }

    Math is good for the brain, but too much of it can be ... even more fun?
    At times yes but I do too much of programming for my own good :P

    Anyways to qualify as a certified archer, you need the following:-
    1.) Inter-dimensional fantasies
    2.) Math
    3.) Programming


    Kindly add others as you see fit
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    #include<math.h>
    void main()
    {
    int buff_counter = 1;
    int buff_damage[10];
    int char_level;
    long damage = 100 * char_level;
    cin>>char_level;
    for(int i=0;i<10;i++)
    {
    cin>>buff_damage;
    damage = damage + (damage * buff_damage);
    }
    cout<<damage;
    }

    This code is wrong.
    - I'm not sure where you got the initial value of "damage" to be 100 * char_level.
    - The for loop doesn't add the damage properly. You need another variable called "base_damage" that belongs within the parantheses:
    int base_damage = something_that_makes_sense;
    int damage = 0;
    for(int i=0;i<10;i++)
    {
    cin>>buff_damage;
    damage = damage + (base_damage * buff_damage);
    }
    - You need to include <iostream> and use namespace std;
    - There's no need to keep an array of buff damages. Simply use a temporary variable to read in the buff damage and use it. For loop would look like this:
    int buff_damage; // Not an array
    int base_damage = something_that_makes_sense;
    int damage = 0;
    for(int i=0;i<10;i++)
    {
    cin>>buff_damage;
    damage = damage + (base_damage * buff_damage);
    }
    - There's more stuff, but I'm not going to go into it.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    *GASP* oh Elena! that was soooo hot! b:dirtyb:chuckle
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
    Elena Costel: Noooo... I don't want to have a dirty affair with Lady Legerity...
    Qui: b:dirty
  • Ikurei - Dreamweaver
    Ikurei - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I'll just leave this here as a reminder to everyone.
    HAHAHAHA

    "Mm you're left-handed?" Asterelle asks, as she stands behind me and takes hold of my shoulders. I nod as I lift up my bow. "Keep your left arm straight." she says as she turns my shoulders perpendicular to the target. I take this opportunity to shift my eyes a little and snicker at her armor. Asterelle is wearing full light armor. I believe its design is based off of fish, as it is covered with metallic scales of some kind and even has fins on the sides and the back. I thought the armor looked ridiculous, how can such high level archers be fitted in such laughable-looking gear? I wonder if its intent is to lower the defenses of the wraiths by making them laugh, for I knew all too well that when I am laughing, my grip goes soft as if my strength becomes sapped. I am also concerned, as the armor leaves part of the chest uncovered. I wonder how much protection that actually offers, as the most important parts such as the heart is in the chest region. "Keep your feet shoulder-width apart." She says. I shift my feet apart a little as I grab an arrow from my quiver and raises it up to the bow. They're really just sharpened twigs stuck with chicken feathers, but I'm proud of these arrows because I had made them myself. What my mentor doesn't know is that the chicken were hers, and that I had used the feathers from those very same chicken to make these arrows before satisfying myself on their roasted flesh. I wonder how long it would take for her to find out, and how many hours of scrubbing floors I would receive as punishment. But, I have no regrets, I would bear lashes for those chicken! "Qui...QUI!" at Asterelle's shout I am jolted back to the task at hand and pull the bowstring back. The bow was new, and it's bowstring was tough. She takes hold of my right hand and steadies my quivering arm. I suddenly realize that Asterelle was standing very close to me. I am suddenly glad that her armor left the cleavage uncovered, and also feel very guilty that I had eaten her chicken...

    Luckily for me, I'm safe from the repercussions that may result from pissing off any high level archers since I'm on Dreamweaver.

    Edit: For some reason the forums won't let me post the second part of this. <_<
    Meh, saw a couple other people doing this so...
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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Thanks for the corrections Elena, been a while since i wrote a C/C++ code. The namespace is not really required :).

    In any case, it was just a drawing board for lovely archers such as yourself to perfect and have an algorithm for successful archerism b:victory
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    *GASP* oh Elena! that was soooo hot! b:dirtyb:chuckle

    hahaha =)

    I spent more effort debugging that code than I am right now debugging code at work.
  • Olba - Sanctuary
    Olba - Sanctuary Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Ok, so we have a bunch of gender-bend, code-hungry archers. Am I the only one who thinks this could turn into a Terminator movie?
    If you disregard what I say because of who I am or because of the contents of what I said, you are a fool.

    Everyone wants to be different, but when you're different you wish you were normal.