Assassin / Psychic OP Skills Discuss and QQ Thread

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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    yay they can only go insivisible for 21 seconds max!~
    without pots or anything.
    xD
    5% total mana per second = 20 seconds + 1 second for any natural regen that kicks in.
    but that means they can't cast anything if they reach you lols.
    b:shocked

    "
    Explosion
    deal 500 fire dmg on target and all enemies 20 meters around him."
    whut 20 meters?
    It's OVER NINE TEEN~!!!!!!
    b:shocked
    thats like the biggest aoe in the game then.
    (>.<)'

    Psychic has 2 20 meter aoes
    the scary part is, with magic classes their aoes get more range as you level them b:shocked
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Silver - Dreamweaver
    Silver - Dreamweaver Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    me can has algebra? and calculus and particle physics?? hmmm? *wait no one read the last 2 parts of that >.<' that be me ebil ebil plans* b:shocked
    b:thanks
    me will try not to overload your brain...
    5% drain per seconds leads to a depletion time of 20 seconds (as thats when 100% of mana is used up. 100/5 = 20) factoring in natural mana regen would add about an extra 1 second assuming that the skill doesn't allow for fractions of a second of invisi. (Now this be in the situation where the assassin is running away relying solely on invisibility *as it seems no other class can detect them* which would buy then 21 seconds.
    >.>

    if u wanna go with alegbra then your calculations are only right when someone doesnt have mp charm, with mp charm it has 26 secs and thats good enough to get away or sneak behind someone from a far distance
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Silver - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    if u wanna go with alegbra then your calculations are only right when someone doesnt have mp charm, with mp charm it has 26 secs and thats good enough to get away or sneak behind someone from a far distance

    Me highly recommend you learn to read...
    It is stated in my original post.
    "yay they can only go insivisible for 21 seconds max!~
    without pots or anything.
    xD"

    also lol what? how does a mp charm add up to 26 seconds? It would be infinite as long as the charm last since charm ticks take 10 seconds while being invisible with max mana buys you 20+ seconds...
    so unless you figure a way to burn all your mana completely in 10 seconds while invisible, you'll stay invisible.
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  • _Miku_ - Lost City
    _Miku_ - Lost City Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Whirling Strike
    base dmg, have 5 times of 10% chance to make target loose HP equal 10% of his MAX HP.

    Imagine a group of them on a world boss XD
    That will make doing bosses wayyy to fast LOL so i do not think that this is a true skill.
    Unless bosses resist it like they do stuns >.>
  • Cirdan - Lost City
    Cirdan - Lost City Posts: 140 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    how does a mp charm add up to 26 seconds? It would be infinite as long as the charm last since charm ticks take 10 seconds while being invisible with max mana buys you 20+ seconds...
    so unless you figure a way to burn all your mana completely in 10 seconds while invisible, you'll stay invisible.

    Pretty sure mp charms have a cool down of 5 secs, but yeah you would still have infinite invisibility if you were willing to endure the charm ****.

    Side note: Is 5%mp/sec with the skill at lvl1 or lvl10? I'm guessing lvl10.

    .....Just think if the sage or demon skill requires no mp to be invisible.....OP b:shockedb:shocked
  • Davitiel - Heavens Tear
    Davitiel - Heavens Tear Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited October 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Psychic has 2 20 meter aoes
    the scary part is, with magic classes their aoes get more range as you level them b:shocked

    Meaning that Psychics will have 2 atomic bomb skills!b:victory
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  • Bagoly_ - Sanctuary
    Bagoly_ - Sanctuary Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Psychic has 2 20 meter aoes
    the scary part is, with magic classes their aoes get more range as you level them b:shocked
    Davitiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Meaning that Psychics will have 2 atomic bomb skills!b:victory
    There's only one 20m aoe in the skill list and it's caster-centered. The already existing caster-centered skills don't get more range (bm aoes, Siren's Kiss, Dragon's Breath).
  • Shuy - Dreamweaver
    Shuy - Dreamweaver Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    Me highly recommend you learn to read...
    It is stated in my original post.
    "yay they can only go insivisible for 21 seconds max!~
    without pots or anything.
    xD"

    also lol what? how does a mp charm add up to 26 seconds? It would be infinite as long as the charm last since charm ticks take 10 seconds while being invisible with max mana buys you 20+ seconds...
    so unless you figure a way to burn all your mana completely in 10 seconds while invisible, you'll stay invisible.

    you said and you quote "yay they can only go insivisible for 21 seconds max!" Max? yes I seriously doubt that there isn't a cool down for the invisable skill and what happens when you want to turn it off? far as i know there isn't a skill where you can turn on and turn off whenever you feel like it. oh no i turned the invisable button on and i have a mp charm how am i going to get outb:cry
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  • Silverhawk - Dreamweaver
    Silverhawk - Dreamweaver Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    About the Assassin Moves.... here are my views :

    poignant attack +200% critical
    stealth invisibility
    concentration x2 damage (15 secs)
    Cross Slash 200% base dmg +500

    the above moves give a combined factor of
    200% x 2 x 3(200% Critical = 3x Factored Dmg ?? )
    With a high critical rate, an assassin can easily pull of a critical move most often.
    so lets see, the above moves do 1200% or x12 Base Dmg ? o.O Isn't that hell lot of overpowered ?? damn...


    These are all assuming the above moves can be combo'ed though, with 3 Sparks. If any 2 of the above moves requires 2 Sparks (With the exception of Stealth), What I am saying might be wrong.. Oh well lets just wait and see b:shocked ( Defense Reduction Skills not Included ) b:surrender

    I can surely say Assassins are going to be really hell of an Overpowered Class. Which Class do you know of that can pull of 12x their Basic Dmg o.O...

    And once again, to assume all this without Frenzy or Extreme Poison + Misc other Amplification b:shocked
  • LinZeta - Lost City
    LinZeta - Lost City Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Haven't really kept up with these two new classes since I'll still be playing my main. I was debating on trying out the Physhic, if they had cool skills, but according to that translation, they seem pretty drab. To me they just seem like they took all the magic classes's skills, put them in a hat, and started picking out the lottery.


    I hope they aren't necessarily like the description.
    I want curses and DoTs!
    Now that would fit the Physhic, and that would be NEW.
  • Silver - Dreamweaver
    Silver - Dreamweaver Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    LinZeta - Lost City wrote: »
    I hope they aren't necessarily like the description.
    I want curses and DoTs!
    Now that would fit the Physhic, and that would be NEW.

    And i would like everyone 2 stop QQing about this class but sadly this isnt BK and u cant always have it your Way


    ~Silver
    Most Ironic phrase in the English language is Common Sense, its easiest concept to understand yet few people ever grasp it.

    ~Silver
  • Preppy - Dreamweaver
    Preppy - Dreamweaver Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Silver - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And i would like everyone 2 stop QQing about this class but sadly this isnt BK and u cant always have it your Way


    ~Silver

    LMAO +1 heheb:chuckle
  • Sharea - Dreamweaver
    Sharea - Dreamweaver Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    you guys keep forgeting that the Assassin is going to use daggers. They wont have a high damage attack to begin with. So even 12x damage wont be alot. And it wont be every attack. They will use there mana for stealth so they will only have a small amout of mana to attack with. Unless they pot before they attack. I know u keep saying Mana charm but the majority of players dont use charms. Its pots or wait.
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  • LinZeta - Lost City
    LinZeta - Lost City Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Silver - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And i would like everyone 2 stop QQing about this class but sadly this isnt BK and u cant always have it your Way


    ~Silver

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  • Haden - Dreamweaver
    Haden - Dreamweaver Posts: 376 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Mastrmustard - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Pretty sure Korren just owned you with her wall of text.

    actually, if you read that "wall of text" it has various skills in it such as pole arm mastery and Take aim. try again
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Silver - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    And i would like everyone 2 stop QQing about this class but sadly this isnt BK and u cant always have it your Way


    ~Silver

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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    noooes lies~
    me walked in a BK and got hit by a broom.
    apparently they thought me was a rat or something even though me am hamster. b:sad
    and they stole mah human monies~! QQ~

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  • Abide - Harshlands
    Abide - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Physic's hands up, i have a strong love for magical classes.

    Ignoring the fact of there weak defense and low hp =(.
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  • Venom_foxy - Sanctuary
    Venom_foxy - Sanctuary Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Korren - Lost City wrote: »
    \Perfect World International\element\configs.pck/config\skillstr.txt
    check it urself.


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    2990 "Venomous Scarab"
    2991 "^ffffffVenomous Scarab (Level %d)

    ^ffcb4aRange　^96f5ff%.1f^ffffff　^ffcb4ameters
    ^ffcb4aMana　^96f5ff%.1f^ffffff
    ^ffcb4aChannel　^ffffff1.5　^ffcb4aseconds
    ^ffcb4aCast　^ffffff1.0　^ffcb4aseconds
    ^ffcb4aCooldown　^ffffff1.0　^ffcb4aseconds

    Venomous Scarab...WTF?!
  • Abide - Harshlands
    Abide - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Now we all know that those stats wont stay like that. First off Words are Words and Actions speak louder then Words we'll just have to find out how the moves are used. If the Classes come out and the moves are like they are in the description im pretty sure that they wont be as big as most people are making it to be.

    If the moves are indeed overpowered its not like some people categorized some of the classes now as overpowered and eventually some got over it and moved on with the PWI lifes and theres still the people left who still are complaining about it.

    So this is how i see it. The classes will eventually get nerfed if the moves/other stuff are to strong. Or, they'll stay the same and you'll have to get over it. just like with the current classes people classify as overpowered.

    P.S. I dont want to see anyone saying they never even thought of or said a class was to strong. Thats just a complete lie.

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  • Bestever - Lost City
    Bestever - Lost City Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Teleportation
    teleport to a appointed place.

    stealth
    become invisible, each second cost 5% max MP

    anti-invisible
    not everything can be seen by eyes!

    those are totaly fair compared to being able to turn into a fox!!

    not !!b:angry im ticked so unfair and shouldent phys be the one to tele???
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  • Elvarin - Dreamweaver
    Elvarin - Dreamweaver Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Well they wear light/robes, so they at least can be killed from a surprise attack, right?

    Besides, MMOs need more cutthroat strategic PVP instead of the "let's stand there hitting each other till one of us dies" cliche. You'll need a bit more strategy to beat the new classes sure, but they probably won't be glaringly imba IMO.
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  • Pegasi - Lost City
    Pegasi - Lost City Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Bestever - Lost City wrote: »
    Teleportation
    teleport to a appointed place.

    stealth
    become invisible, each second cost 5% max MP

    anti-invisible
    not everything can be seen by eyes!

    those are totaly fair compared to being able to turn into a fox!!

    not !!b:angry im ticked so unfair and shouldent phys be the one to tele???

    It's probably just a jump-back skill like the wizards have. I can't see any reason why they would give the new class the ability to tele from city to city. :/
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  • Ixiel - Sanctuary
    Ixiel - Sanctuary Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Pegasi - Lost City wrote: »
    It's probably just a jump-back skill like the wizards have. I can't see any reason why they would give the new class the ability to tele from city to city. :/

    Trufax.

    If it is a teleport from city to city, maybe if they still had to pay the teleport fee it wouldn't be as bad.
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  • Bijorin - Dreamweaver
    Bijorin - Dreamweaver Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    ^ pay the teleport fee to whom then?

    I don't know what the Wizard teleport is like, but from my experiences on other MMOs, Psychics could plausibly have instant teleportation to anywhere in range of sight.
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  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Oh there sooooooo getting nurfed b:surrender
    Is Back once more.

    sorry med school needs some time.
  • Rofl_lmao - Heavens Tear
    Rofl_lmao - Heavens Tear Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    I heard that some1 got sum info that pyscics r gona b beter than asasins,but i no that every1 exept ppl who think they r a waste r gonna try both,well most of them
  • Kohakuu - Heavens Tear
    Kohakuu - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    The two new classes seem really interesting and may add some fun things that PW is lacking as an MMO overall.

    However, they are STILL going to be a matter of preference. There's a reason people level their mains, and clearly EVERYONE is going to want to try these, but they won't be for everyone and the 90+ ones will probably be pretty balanced.

    Keep in mind that they may also balance out some of the other classes to account for the skills here! So maybe Wiz will get something to make them more desirable to level, for instance.

    Either way, it's all speculation now b:shutup
  • Collapse - Harshlands
    Collapse - Harshlands Posts: 467 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    From the looks of it Assassin seems to be the heavy dmg dealer, while Psychic seems to be more support with the 2 bless moves, increase defenses etc. The two classes would probably duo very well in PvP.

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  • ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary
    ItsMeLouTwo - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited November 2009
    Just a bit of FYI the name of the Psychic class should actually be Psionicist. Psychics are fortune tellers. *turn on heavy sarcasm generator*(Psychic: 'I predict that that mob is going to attack the squad!' Squad Member: 'Gee without you we would be Lost! Thanks!')*turn off heavy sarcasm generator*
    Either way I look forward to playing one. Instead of a cat shop Ill open a Palm/Tarot card/tea leaves reading shop. b:sin
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