Anniversary Pack Discussion

VenLooki - Heavens Tear

They wanna get coins out of the game by bringing jolly jones in..

But WHY do they bring coins into the game again with those anni packs(2 Best lucks = 10 mil coins..).. They straightly bring back the coins into the game.. And even more coins per gold!!

Let me guess.. Next month Jolly comes back again to suck the coineconomy again??

rsin

Another huge imbalance.
Not just for those who spent hours farming the mats. (People who can actually use the so-called end game gear).
But now you also have new players with first time characters, who can spend money and end up with millions in return. What about those who worked hard thru the levels with limited money for skills and upgrades. Now there will be new players who cash shop and new players who dont. Not everybody spends real money, but true the money has to come from somewhere to keep the game running. Im glad I re-rolled on a pve server. Because the pvp part of this game is unreal. Its degrading to see a lv10+ player selling lunar gear, grand lobsters and tokens for millions that they havent earned but yet paid for with no real effort towards anything besides lifting their credit card. lol

Sdrassa - Sanctuary

18 more days until it's Halloween, take a guess to what's happening then.....

Brael - Dreamweaver

Sdrassa - Sanctuary wrote: »

This would actually be a good idea. A permanent cash shop item just handing out tokens for something like 50 silver could work. I don't really know what you can exchange tokens for now, but if it were for things like chips, socketstones and maybe aerogear tickets or something it could be a useful thing that would actually make people happy. Especially the aerogear tickets, I've been waiting for those for almost a year now, even info on those would still be nice. Don't expect to see any GM reply to any of this though... b:angry

Luck tab on the boutique agent shows you the things and tokens needed, but not the yeilds. Basically, level 79 skills, sage/demon skills, pet food, flawless shards, socket stones, chips, rep, oracles (under oracle tab, not luck tab), tele's, yuanxiao, jiazozi, subs, essence of nature, neo deity scrolls, and a few other items. Basically skills and pretty much any consumable item you would want other than dragon orbs. The list for regular luck token items is on their announcement as well:
http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/newsubpage/return-of-the-anniversary-pack-7121

Incarnata - Harshlands

First off, I firmly believe that we have many people that, when want to complain about something, will complain away without letting facts get in their way. But... I do not know if anyone will even read my post... but I do want to vent just a tiny bit:

First off, I do not know about you all, but every single prepaid card and paybycash card and so on vanished from every 7-11 in my area, last month. And none of them have restocked since then. And when I ask an employee about these cards I usually get a puzzled response along the lines of "we do not carry them". And never mind that they had lots of them in august.

So I can not even buy one card (and i wanted to, last week).

So... anyways... if they are doing this return-of-the-anniversary-pack thing to make money, I do not think they are doing things properly.

However, I did see a lot of complaints about how they had stopped selling their packs early (back when they stopped selling them 1am on Sept 30, just like they had announced). So I imagine they really did bring them back for people that wanted them back.

TheHunter_ - Sanctuary

paigrande - Harshlands wrote: »

why I Dont See Any Reply From A Gm?

cuz They Suck Big Time!!!

Sheswes - Heavens Tear

TheHunter_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

cuz They Suck Big Time!!!

ghay GMs!b:angry

VenLooki - Heavens Tear

They are sitting behind their desk doing evil laughs...b:angry

Kristoph - Lost City

Why are you even expecting a response? The only reason this thread is here is so they can avoid people spamming threads. I doubt they're actually reading this for any reason other than getting rid of the flame posts, lol. Considering they were moronic enough to put these packs back in, anything you say is nothing but a waste of time.

Hayyel - Lost City

heh... it went like this: quickly input packs. quickly post forum thread. job done, we cn go sleep. who cares what ppl think, might as well read the opinion tomorrow... or day fter... or just delete it after a few weeks. the packs are in already, cant do anything bout them. constructive... what? if you were interested in it, you would stick with us, at least now, that you know what you did would be not approved of. Cuz there is no hell i will believe you didnt know ppl will be b:angryb:angryb:angry

Sheswes - Heavens Tear

VenLooki - Heavens Tear wrote: »

They are sitting behind their desk doing evil laughs...b:angry

kantorek....
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/Apple_Head_XD/michaeljacksoneatspopcorn.gif

Paigrande - Harshlands

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Why are you even expecting a response? The only reason this thread is here is so they can avoid people spamming threads. I doubt they're actually reading this for any reason other than getting rid of the flame posts, lol. Considering they were moronic enough to put these packs back in, anything you say is nothing but a waste of time.

yep, I guess they were expecting so much complain about this nd they even made a stickied thread about a cash shop item...

Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear

TBH its good PR blaming the players for wanting these back..... if only others in History had done the same


We all know you enjoyed it so much the 1st time soooooooo "Back by popular demand World War II "

VenLooki - Heavens Tear

Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »

kantorek....
http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/Apple_Head_XD/michaeljacksoneatspopcorn.gif

Rofl exactlyb:chuckle

XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary

W...................T....................F


again? as prices are coming down.. and we get these packs... again?
What i think? I think no one gives a dam at pw about what I think.

where is the gun and the box of bullets.. i'm going postal then turning it on myself.

bye world.

Sdrassa - Sanctuary

Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear wrote: »

TBH its good PR blaming the players for wanting these back..... if only others in History had done the same


We all know you enjoyed it so much the 1st time soooooooo "Back by popular demand World War II "

I know I shouldn't but b:chuckle

Wait, wasn't that what the Bush family did as well? b:chuckle

Still, I hope they'll remove the anniversary pack. They most likely won't, but still one can hope.

Midnight - Lost City

Even though Xarfox stickied this I wonder if he will reply.... But anyways to any forum mod gm or pwi employee that cares ( aka no one) I'm not trying to flame or anything but all im saying is with all the negative response from last pack release and the completely evident inflated zen prices wouldn't it be alot moer reasonable to never release ani packs again? ok u did it once from 1 yearanniversary but now its released again. What are we celebrating? Will we get them for Christmas and Hannukkah also? I don't wanna flame or anything but I'd appreciate just one honest response from any pwi employee on whether you can name one positive thing releasing this again? Then again im 99.9% sure i won't get a response. Anyways we'll wait and see.b:cute

rsin

Remove the so-called end game gears, the grand lobster, the 10 million big note from the packs. Then they could put them in the cash shop permanently and I wouldnt care. I dont mind seeing high level players benefit from the packs. Its all the lower lv10+ players with millions of $$ and all available skills and gears up to date and top notch. Ive enjoyed this game for the hours ive put into it. The grinding, the questing and the hard work and effort that went into everything I have. And still have skills and gears that I cant afford unless paying for with rl cash. It really does make things unbalanced. And its not the packs themselves that is the problem. The problem is the unnecessarly items that ive mentioned above that can result in anyone having millions upon millions of coin. What good can that possibly bring?

swgs

GMs please forget about this anniversary pack for a few months first. Do something bring in more new player and keep existing players. I am in 2 guild, my main is in a small but all high level guild, 80% of the people quite during last 2 month, me and another veno are the only 2 still logging in every day, but we are not actively playing either, we just sign in while playing on another computer, so we can help people in the guild who are still playing when they need. my alt is in a different guild, player level range from 40 to 96, i have not see more then 20% of people online at same for a long time.

I do understand PWI as a company need to make money, I also understand higher gold price is good for PWI and cash shopper who is the one supporting the game. but most players are not heavy cash shop user, and they are the one keep the game running. when gold price keep going up, non cash shopper may leave because they can not afford grinding (AOE grinding, Frost, Warsong, CV etc). after them, players who can not spend 100s a month will leave because they have no chance to win in PVP, and they can not keep up with dolls/charms/orbs any more. who else will left in the game? will heavy cash shopper stay in the game when those non heavy left? they are real person, they need people to play with, if they want to play alone, they would just played console game. cash shopper should have some advantage in the game, but if non cash shopper and cash shopper who can not afford spend a lots of money in game get no chance, then there maybe a problem.

Maybe you do not think there is a issue, most likely, your status data shows there is no active player decrease. but please ask around to see what people are doing in game. most of my friend are just talking with friends for a little while doing WQ if they logging in, we used do HH/CV/Lunar and grinding together every day, but we do not do that any more, we can hardly even find enough people to do a 3-2/3-3 any more. lunar? give me a break, charms used will cost more then the weapon/armor itself. PW is a great game, but the most fun comes from those high level FBs and interact with other players. but when most people can not afford group activate, then most fun goes away. I have played this game for almost a year, i really hope this game can keep going strong.

J_Balt - Heavens Tear

I didnt really mind Anni Pack's when they were first introduced.

But jezz ppl, there's a reason they're called ANNIVERSARY Pack's. Bring em back next year, come up with new idea's instead, something not including Cash Shop.

I've seen ppl on forum's coming with 1 idea after another for a new event. You should try and look at those, maybe stop sale for a while. Ppl is tired of getting screwed.

Like Lypiphera said, hold your word and regain trust from the players.

TheHunter_ - Sanctuary

J_Balt - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I didnt really mind Anni Pack's when they were first introduced.

But jezz ppl, there's a reason they're called ANNIVERSARY Pack's. Bring em back next year, come up with new idea's instead, something not including Cash Shop.

I've seen ppl on forum's coming with 1 idea after another for a new event. You should try and look at those, maybe stop sale for a while. Ppl is tired of getting screwed.

Like Lypiphera said, hold your word and regain trust from the players.

gain trust? lolz...they just lie anyway!!

http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=471042

Doctorfaust - Heavens Tear

Bringing back the anniversary packs will further the inflation for the economy throughout all the servers. That's all I have to say about this matter.

Maiya - Lost City

I have yet to read this entire thread and I proabably won't.

It's an anniversary pack. An anniversary is something to be celebrated annually. Not every month. Not for more than a day. Not to mention the effect it has on the game is tremendous, I don't see the point of implementing it again except for money.

JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver

I have been waiting 6 weeks for mats to drop in price so i can afford to up my manu skills.

Now it looks like im going to have to wait a while longer so i may as well look for something enjoyable to play while im waitingb:surrender

And drop rates are up?

I spent 6 hours killing level 51 mobs(Centipod Lord) with level 53 char and only dropped 1 mat.(compound oil)

belatu

Back by popular demand?

There was enough evidence during the "first" event that anniversary packs were not popular with the majority of players so it is really hard to try and understand the reasoning behind bringing them back other than pure greed.

The pitcher will go to the well once too often........

Annastasia - Lost City

xarfox wrote: »

Please discuss the recent addition of Anniversary Boxes within this thread. Any flaming or non-constructive criticism will result in your post being removed.

since no one working at PWI seems to understand basic business concept, let me explain:
would you rather have 10 people spending $5000 in 2 weeks or 10000 people spending $50 a month for a year?

a lot of players quit with the first jolly jones. more when it happened the second time. a shocking amount just vanished after the first anni packs came out. i haven't bothered to log in since this latest "event" but i will harzard a guess that my friends list will probably be empty.

players like a challenge. we like to have to farm a little bit for items. instant gratification is hollow. with allowing people to buy high end gear, you have totally unbalanced the game. look at all the threads, the polls. every min you keep the anni packs in it is like a big f u to the players.

honestly i really don't see how you can even begin to fix this. stopping the sales would be a start. paying attention to players and actually fixing bugs might help you retain a few people.

Ursa - Dreamweaver

oh FFS ppl, don't u just get it already?

PW is a CASHCOW. Nothing more, nothing less.
They will suck all the cash they can from this game. They don't give a flying sh it about players, what players want, ballance or anything else. They only thing they care about is making money. And in that process if they make a few of the players happy, great, if not **** them. Greed and stupid dumb asses to spend money to feed that greed are PWI business model.

Plicid - Heavens Tear

wow...just wow. I dont want to sound like flaming, but every 2 Perfect tokens of best luck is another 10 mil on the server. and I bet at least 90% of them are used in this way. If you wonder why Gold went up so much, that and the Chests of coins added so much coin to the server. well at least Chest of coins should no longer be a consern. We need a way to get coin out of the system. My best Idea was to put an NPC in for 1 week that sells either charms or Dragon orbs at a flat rate to drain coins out of the system.

patrialt

wasn't the first month too much already? in game economy is so terrible right now, and it started to finally deflate a little on Dreamweaver (down from like 430k-500k per gold to 340k-400k per gold, and now, inflation again =/

mchypz

lol with all the QQ it looks like most of pwi population is aganist what you GMs did but I guess this is a opportunity for players who did not get to celebrate the event, and ppl just rq already if u had enough with this game simple,after all these packs are not coming back till nxt year an the items u get from it is highly beneficial,also if the pw does loose players, there probaly gonna gain some because of the upcoming expansion-so the GMs have it all worked out..

edit: also guess it is "popular demand" because ppl are spending money on the packs anyway. >>and GMs can atleast add a function where we can blacklist Duke if ppl dont like his constant spamming