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  • kaboro
    kaboro Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just sucks to have such insanely greedy, thoughtless, devs.

    Yes, my thoughts exactly.
    Unfortunately there is only one way out: go play a p2p game. All the so called f2p are plagued by excessive greed. I hope they will see their profits go down not up after this.
    I for one will not spend a single penny anymore and the zhen i already have will be frozen, i wont transfer it to the server.
    Sorry PWI but two thumbs down for this change.
  • Thelegion - Lost City
    Thelegion - Lost City Posts: 256 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ok i undertand, the QQ duck like always, but this genie system, make genies more usefull (for lvling) , Alphamale is the only skill i see is bad balanced now, tree of protection well , U kown People POTIONS EXIST and also u have to die in a game ...
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  • Fuhjeebies - Harshlands
    Fuhjeebies - Harshlands Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    what happens to zeal genie owners?

    if everyone gets 4 slots then what about zeal genies?


    THIS WAS NOT THOUGHT THROUGH and i will be yet another player not spending any more cash on this game
  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i'm really sick of genie skills changing all the freaking time

    potions suck.. bring back Tree of Protection to what it was.
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  • Fuhjeebies - Harshlands
    Fuhjeebies - Harshlands Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    its just a cash shop scam to get us buying charms and dolls again thats all

    YOU won't get any justification...........
  • Desire - Dreamweaver
    Desire - Dreamweaver Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Fuhjeebies - Harshlands wrote: »
    what happens to zeal genie owners?

    if everyone gets 4 slots then what about zeal genies?


    THIS WAS NOT THOUGHT THROUGH and i will be yet another player not spending any more cash on this game

    I think all genies are getting 4-5-6 slots, depends on those LP i guess
  • Fuhjeebies - Harshlands
    Fuhjeebies - Harshlands Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Desire - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I think all genies are getting 4-5-6 slots, depends on those LP i guess

    yes but it was a zeal genies main point that it got an extra slot first

    vit = longer energy bar (still same)
    infliction = more str (still same)
    longevity = more dex? (still same?)
    zeal = more mag (nerfed to point of no return?)
  • Kitsuneh - Lost City
    Kitsuneh - Lost City Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Someone nerfed my PvP genie but I am happy about it. I can adjust my genie's stats again and get some better skills now. Good job GMs or devs or someone.
  • Inias - Heavens Tear
    Inias - Heavens Tear Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    can someone tell me if there is a good chi building genie skill atm ?
    i know cloud strike or something , but do you still need to get close to the enemy to be able to get the chi?

    plz someone answer ty , GManswer would be awesome jst to make sure
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  • Rabid_dogg - Heavens Tear
    Rabid_dogg - Heavens Tear Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    They provide you with a quest for resets because of this patch.

    On a related note, while many of the genie skill changes are... unfavorable, to say the least, I'm glad that this week's patch was NOT another sale/cash shop related event. Thank you, GMs, for listening to us on that issue.

    The Dogg thanks you for that.

    by the way no one and I mean NO ONE wants to thank a GM.

    New definition of GM=Great Moneymaker.

    Please do all of us and The Dogg a favor and don't thank themb:victory
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  • Bladecutter - Sanctuary
    Bladecutter - Sanctuary Posts: 269 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    nice changes, now lets see how this affects the game (still downloading the pacht)

    thx devs for the update and gms for keeping us informated ^^
  • exent
    exent Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    They actually adressed one of the most criticized aspect of genie leveling. Now they level up with you, no need to spend 1 xp or sp on them. That is awesome.

    They also gave us free refresh stones and orders to reset their skills to whatever we want.

    Some people complain about how certain skills (specially Tree of Protection) were nerfed, but seriously, we all knew they were overpowered... That nerf was necessary. Anyway, you can get Last Stand (Essence penetration) now, which will basically have the same effects and requirements as the old Tree of Protection for some players. Of course, Tanks with more than 10k HP won't get the same results...

    In general, I say it just had to be done. Genies are just a little buff on the side. Your are supposed to rely on their skills for healing, getting Chi or dealing damage. That never was the intention...
  • Zetarana - Heavens Tear
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    exent wrote: »
    They actually adressed one of the most criticized aspect of genie leveling. Now they level up with you, no need to spend 1 xp or sp on them. That is awesome.

    They also gave us free refresh stones and orders to reset their skills to whatever we want.

    This was really good, unless you were one of the ones who dumped a lot of XP into your Genie.
    exent wrote: »
    Some people complain about how certain skills (specially Tree of Protection) were nerfed, but seriously, we all knew they were overpowered... That nerf was necessary. Anyway, you can get Last Stand (Essence penetration) now, which will basically have the same effects and requirements as the old Tree of Protection for some players. Of course, Tanks with more than 10k HP won't get the same results...

    In general, I say it just had to be done. Genies are just a little buff on the side. Your are supposed to rely on their skills for healing, getting Chi or dealing damage. That never was the intention...

    I wouldn't mind it if they had just lessened the effect, but they didn't stop there...

    They lessend the effect AND made it cost more to use... Lessen the effect should = Lessen the cost.
    It was not overpowered, but, let me state that I don't PvP so cannot attest to how it was used/abused in that Metagame.
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  • Foulcault - Heavens Tear
    Foulcault - Heavens Tear Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    truekossy wrote: »
    They provide you with a quest for resets because of this patch.

    On a related note, while many of the genie skill changes are... unfavorable, to say the least, I'm glad that this week's patch was NOT another sale/cash shop related event. Thank you, GMs, for listening to us on that issue.

    Quest doesn't give 80 orders if you get it at all FYI and is it a bad time to point out sales are done on tuesday night so it could still occur.
  • SajinX - Dreamweaver
    SajinX - Dreamweaver Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Kantorek wrote: »
    Due to these changes and the following list of Genie Skill changes, the Watcher of the Earth will offer 1 free Stone of Refreshment, and 80 Origination Orders to re-spec your Genie. Please note that this quest is only available once per character.
    i didnt take that quest yet and he wont give me my stuff!!! D:<
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  • Bloodknight - Harshlands
    Bloodknight - Harshlands Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i still agree on the overpowered genie skill point.

    They are meant to support you, not completely remove use of other items in game. And you don't PvP...okay. let me calculate my ToP damage with my level 1 armageddon ( not to mention if someone got level 10 )

    i got 9K HP and 1.1K MP in two leg form, meaning i sacrifice 4.5K HP and 550 MP to use armageddon. My armageddon does 2400 damage plus 2.2 damage for each point sacrificed meaning i do 13510 damage. In PvP this is 3377.5 damage.

    Now with ToP level 10 on it gave me 50% extra HP meaning i get 2250 HP. In terms of damage that is 4615. Which is a considerable amount of damage more.

    A barb (9x) with armageddon level 10 can one shot ALL classes up to level 90 if they use ToP, and in this case i say it is WAY overpowered.

    my 2 cents: good going devs! way more balanced AND now people need to use more skill of their own again instead of pushing a button and oneshot/running away really fast.

    Greetz,
    Bloodknight
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Zetarana - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    They lessend the effect AND made it cost more to use... Lessen the effect should = Lessen the cost.
    It was not overpowered, but, let me state that I don't PvP so cannot attest to how it was used/abused in that Metagame.

    Just to point out, it's still quite a bit cheaper than potions.
  • TCHP - Lost City
    TCHP - Lost City Posts: 577 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    First positive note, Thank you for fixing the untamed bug, some of my guild player were very annoyed by that. They will be happy to be able to get there cultivation quest. Second I'm sure you had good reason to change the genie system and I hope I will see the good side of it soon.

    Now the negative side. I feel it's reasonable to give reset for the genie. Since the skill are all f*** up now. But why is there no Exp cube. I mean I have invested a lot of spirit point in the skill. Sure I can reset the genie, But I'm not getting my spirit point back.

    Now that 10% exp, yes when I started I found that genie should level at the same time has my character. Now that I have used the genie for some time I find it a useful tool to stop my progression. Now I will not be able to drain my Exp and raise my skill before I level. Instead I'll have to use many genie in my inventory. I just think this should be a personal choice in the genie window. Cause I sure don't like it now.

    Why did you put skill slot on Luck point. My character does not get stronger because of luck point. Why would my genie be base on luck point. I work hard to get my genie to my level and now I just get a slap in the face. Whit the gold price and all this is just the cherry on top. I have seen similar management in other community and your gonna make a lot of angry player out there. You could have raise it to 50 or 60 magic point, I could have lived whit that kind of change. But now your just taking advantage away from me and whit no compensation that I work hard to get. Does this mean that genie whit medium luck point will be more common. Or will most genie need to be level 100 to have 4 skill? How did you modify the attribution of Lucky point to give player a greater chance of having a good genie ? Will the base skill of a genie be erasable to make genie more interesting ? Will the base skill have level like any other skill ? Will you make spirit point cube for bad genie that are transform in cube ? You modified 2 of my genie skill that I like a lot. I can live whit a smaller Tree of protection. But then your update lock the skill. And you made my relentless courage 5% bonus. What kind of courage is that.

    Then there are bugs so old you haven't fix. Like my 1 hour magic buff that goes away after some random time. Why don't you give cleric a bronze charm for all that mp we spend extra if you don't want to fix real bug ?

    Conclusion, Give me my Spirit point back for my level 6 relentless courage.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Centetric - Lost City wrote: »
    we need another sale

    yep we "need" one as soon as I get strong enough to make enough $$
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    O_O Alphamale cost almost 3 times as much stam to cast? QQ (with the rest). No more RB for me, time for me to ding. b:surrender

    It would also be nice if we get 2 sets of reset items since most of us have different genies for PvP and PvE. b:beg
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  • Foulcault - Heavens Tear
    Foulcault - Heavens Tear Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    SajinX - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    i didnt take that quest yet and he wont give me my stuff!!! D:<

    Send a support ticket up. Not sure if the GMs saw the earlier post I made about this. I sent a case up for both not getting 80 or even getting the quest at all in some cases.
  • Raygan - Sanctuary
    Raygan - Sanctuary Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wow a great REAL update this week that had nothing to do with the cashshop! Love the genie revamp. though im kinda annoyed about how much exp and spirit ive already put into her. Ive always thought they should work like veno pets!

    Glad for the untamed too that they can finally do spiritual culti again
  • SajinX - Dreamweaver
    SajinX - Dreamweaver Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    i did send one, but im so pissed about the genie revamp. i luv the new exp system, but they changed ToP to 3 Wood and 3 Water after i busted my **** to get that skill yesterday and now i gotta reset so i can use other skills instead but the watcher wont give me the quest. D:<
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  • kantorek
    kantorek Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I've updated the patch notes to reflect the Genie skill reset quest requirements and reward amounts.
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  • SajinX - Dreamweaver
    SajinX - Dreamweaver Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Okay, I don't get any Origination Orders. That's fine, because I only have 3 Affinity to reset. But that won't help at all if he won't hand the stone over.
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  • Foulcault - Heavens Tear
    Foulcault - Heavens Tear Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Kantorek wrote: »
    I've updated the patch notes to reflect the Genie skill reset quest requirements and reward amounts.

    Is there gonna be any form of replacement for those who took the stones early? Had this information been handed out I would have waited till lvl 80 to get the quest as well as many others I assume.
  • Elrond - Heavens Tear
    Elrond - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ok, so i have a issue with the discriptions... What is Chi.... is it mana, or is it used for spark. Also it seams to be used in multiple ways...

    Qi Manipulation - Genie Strength points now increase the amount of Chi drained by 10 per point. The effect will now always last for 15 seconds.

    Healing Ripple of Rebirth - Energy cost reduced by 10. Genie Strength and Dexterity points now increase the amount of health and chi regenerated by 1% per 5 points. The effect will now always last for 9 seconds.

    Poisonous Swarm - Reduced base energy cost to 70. Genie Dexterity determines HP reduction. Genie Strength determines MP and Chi reduction.

    ...there are many skills with the word "Chi" in them, which ones apply to chi and which to mana?


    Also in addition...
    "List of Genie Skill changes (Note: Not all skill changes are reflected accurately in-game. This will be fixed in a future maintenance)."

    This seams ridiculous, why institute the changes and not the descriptions, this just leads to confusion and anger. I will not update my genie until the descriptions are updated.

    I like the 10% exp gain, good addition
  • vbarbie
    vbarbie Posts: 232 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Wow.. arent the devs testing at all what they do? this update is a complete act of irresponsability , fix 1 bug and create 100 more .. Players have been lately spending alot of real cash on the game at least give them a decent product, ok or .. at least don't break stuff around (more) b:surrenderb:surrender
  • eatwithspoons
    eatwithspoons Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    We test these things as much as possible before release, please don't make accusations like that. Our staff should not be subjected to such disrespect.
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Elrond - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    This seams ridiculous, why institute the changes and not the descriptions, this just leads to confusion and anger. I will not update my genie until the descriptions are updated.

    Yeah, it would seem that changing the effect would be much harder than just the descriptions, so not sure why that's not added along with the change in effect. I'll be waiting as well to change my genie. b:surrender
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