what are archers for apart from zhen?
_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary
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I just realised that archers have no use what so ever:
FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
Same for TT
TW:
Barbs-catapults
BM-phy. damage
Wiz-nukers
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archers-not needed
Not only that but archers suck at pvp, seriously how do you guys manage to get into factions?
FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
Same for TT
TW:
Barbs-catapults
BM-phy. damage
Wiz-nukers
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archers-not needed
Not only that but archers suck at pvp, seriously how do you guys manage to get into factions?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Your little comparison thing is utterly worthless. Firstly, you could say that venos are useless too by the look of what you outlined. TBH, I would rather have an archer DD than a BM DD. For example 1-2 gold shard boss, herc tanks, rest DD, the melee Bm would get owned by aoe.
Also, I dont think you have much experience about TW. Archers useless? far from it. Another thing is, I dont think you have met saren yet, as annoying as he may be, he got some PvP skills.I was early taught to work as well as play,
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my squadmates actually thought dimentora could be taken down in less than 5min, from how fast the first 25% of its hp went down b:chuckle0 -
.....archery?0
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_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I just realised that archers have no use what so ever:
FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
Same for TT
TW:
Barbs-catapults
BM-phy. damage
Wiz-nukers
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archers-not needed
Not only that but archers suck at pvp, seriously how do you guys manage to get into factions?
I should just say "lol n00b", but I have a few minutes to spare,so, here we go:FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
maximun HP by 16.0% for 30 seconds at lvl 10. Nothing to laugh at when you have 5+ bosses in a FB.
Same applies to the TT bosses. Want to get them down faster, get an archer, will help, especially if you want to run 3-4 TTs with the same team. For 1 run is not necessary, for more is recommended.
Venos are needed to pull sometimes if the squad has low lvl and also to spark the tank.
You're waaay of on this one.TW:
Barbs-catapults
BM-phy. damage
Wiz-nukers
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archers-not needed
archers are the fastest killers of robe veno/cleric/wizzies. Their crit will hurt as much as they will be hurt by a wizz GS or SS. Without archers to keep them under controll wizzies would nuke the hell out of everything. So, they bring balance and that is great.
Another good thing is their Barrage of Arrows, that's pretty much a kicka$$ skill. Ranged continuous AoE. No other class has anything to come even close. And in TW, believe me, that hurts.
Venos are a great spark back-up for wizzies in TW. And the Nix just owns. Robes are going down in 3-4 seconds max. There are ways to avoid them/defeat them, but as airforce and spark transfer venos are a must in TW.
Again, you're waay of on this one too.
So, go do your homework and come back after you get in your teen years at least.____________
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I'd say it's pretty impossible to kill that boss in TT in under 4 minutes without an archer's DPS. Unless your mages/clerics/venos stack a lot of -chan.
And archers bad at PvP? Lol, last time I checked dealing 1k in less than a sec hurts a lot, especially arcane classes.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Wow. Just wow. I'll put it simply in TW form, since that's the REAL pvp of this game.
BM- Stun the **** out of everything
Barbs- Pull catapults and kill squishies
Wizards- Kill catapult pullers
Clerics- Heal catapult pullers and kill people
Venos- Kill EVERTHING
Archers- Become a squishies worst enemy.0 -
_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I just realised that archers have no use what so ever:
FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
Same for TT
are you ****en serious? you actually call blademasters damage dealers BUT NOT ARCHERS?!
what's wrong with youFPW > PWI b:victory0 -
_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal(<<erm....not really on the DD part, more of a support-fire thing.)
Wiz-ranged Magic/Elemental damage
clerics-buffs and heals
veno-Possibly first/second tank or damage dealer, depending on what pet they have, Lure/Puller
archer-Ranged Physical Damage
I cant really weigh in on TW, as ive never participated in one, yet. But I edited what you said, to match what i think...I....really have absolutely no idea what im doing. Just givin' you the heads up.
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i lol @ the first post. all the classes are important in TW and TT. To neglect one class = fail but mayb that's because you aren't high enough level to realize what each class is capable of.
Barb = kicka** cata pullers with hax hp...impossible to kill by yourself once they reach the 90+ and they tank bosses for you b:laugh
Veno = um, you know...their herc can tank most of the bosses in TT and their phoenix are killers in TW (i would mention that they also lure but the genie skills can do that now too except i think it cant reach as far as veno luring)
Wizard = nukers as you mentioned
BM = they can aoe stun and they are great dds too...i got one hit by one in TW b:cry
Cleric = buffs, heals, and they can also DD but a bit slower becuz of their channeling
Archer = they make the TT/FB go ALOT faster and did i mention they are one of the main DDs in TW
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_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I just realised that archers have no use what so ever:
FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
Replace Barb with Veno with Herc, and you become useless.0 -
_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Not only that but archers suck at pvp, seriously how do you guys manage to get into factions?
It’s actually pretty easy for archers to get in guilds. No one really needs or want them, but in order to get federal stimulus funding each guild must have 10% archers.0 -
_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »I just realised that archers have no use what so ever:
FB:
Barbs-tank
Bm-second tank/damage deal
Wiz-ranged damage
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archer-not needed
Same for TT
TW:
Barbs-catapults
BM-phy. damage
Wiz-nukers
clerics-buffs
veno-not needed
archers-not needed
Not only that but archers suck at pvp, seriously how do you guys manage to get into factions?
b:chuckle Veno's useless in TW's? Ever Purged a fully buffed catapuller?
This is completely biased against Veno's and Archers. GTFOb:bye PW.
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Zelfine - Sanctuary wrote: »b:chuckle Veno's useless in TW's? Ever Purged a fully buffed catapuller?
This is completely biased against Veno's and Archers. GTFO
he also said archers completely suck in pvp, that proves he has a mental condition b:shockedFPW > PWI b:victory0 -
Archers do suck at pvp i've owned 5x pure dex archers with ease. And why are all you archers crying just because i told the truth sheesh it's only a frikin f2p game.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL0
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_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Archers do suck at pvp i've owned 5x pure dex archers with ease. And why are all you archers crying just because i told the truth sheesh it's only a frikin f2p game.
5x archers get owned by lvl 40 barb? damn tell them to just quit the game! they must suck big timeFPW > PWI b:victory0 -
Prediction - Lost City wrote: »he also said archers completely suck in pvp, that proves he has a mental condition b:shocked
I mean hey, he doesn't consider Archer's damage to be ranged :P
You don't see many archers spamming wingspan and winged pledge xDb:bye PW.
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_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »Archers do suck at pvp i've owned 5x pure dex archers with ease. And why are all you archers crying just because i told the truth sheesh it's only a frikin f2p game.
We talkin bout duels here? I know my server doesnt have many 4x Barbs owning 5x archers b:laughb:bye PW.
I'll still troll the forums >:D0 -
archers are common too. yes we're talkin 'bout duels and when an archer tried to pk me i utterly ripped it to shreads.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL0
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_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »archers are common too. yes we're talkin 'bout duels and when an archer tried to pk me i utterly ripped it to shreads.
duels don't count, and if he couldn't beat you and he was 10+ lvls higher he must be a fail who doesn't know what the hell he's doingFPW > PWI b:victory0 -
He was an archer which I guess is an automatic fail. Barbs are OP
archers are squishy with average damage and lucky crits. you guys haven't got any skills that help you beat meleesLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL0 -
1. archers have great damage
2. our crits aren't "lucky"
3. he must have been a fail to not be able to kill a lvl 40 barb or you're just lying and saying he's 5x when he's really lowerFPW > PWI b:victory0 -
I'm a good barb and he was a **** archer not my fault he lost. Archers get pwned by melee. Simple.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL0
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_BLANKA_ - Sanctuary wrote: »you guys haven't got any skills that help you beat melees
metal skills do full damage up close and we got 2 phys melee skills
shows how much you know about archersFPW > PWI b:victory0 -
You can't put an opinion on a whole Archer community because you killed one person. b:cuteb:bye PW.
I'll still troll the forums >:D0 -
your metal skills aren't a threat to barbs a couple half assed skills aren't enough to take down my hp bar.LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL0
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duels dont really count since they limited the distance between the players and thats a disadvantage to archers. but even in duels...when i was still lvl 70s i can kill a barb...i don't know what you're talkin about. we can take aim/stun and spam the metal skills...trust me, not that hard to kill a barb. and at 40s...you guys are suppose to miss the archers like almost every hit unless the archer has some weird built.0
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I really doubt Archer's were meant to kill Barbs anywayb:bye PW.
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Meh, this guys is a troll, don't take his bait.
and if he's for real, better yet, cuz we have one more delusional barb that we can pkb:pleased0 -
Every class is meant to kill every other class, with the right player its just that pwi made archers... well ****LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL0
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ok no offense but i doubt it was really a 5x archer
lvl 40 barb against a lvl 5x archer...the barb shouldn't even be able to hit him with all the accuracy
lvl 5x archer has what? almost 2k evasion? how much accuracy does lvl 40 barb have? some 400?FPW > PWI b:victory0
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