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  • Divine_Demon - Heavens Tear
    Divine_Demon - Heavens Tear Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    shnuggles wrote: »
    That was not the issue. The Gold Trading system's prices are all set by you, the players, so the increase everyone saw was due to the actual bug from the patch. The Gold Trading system is working as intended and the price was slowly increased by the players who were exploiting the bug. This issue is being looked into and we hope to have a resolution soon. Please watch the sticky posted at the top of General for updates to the situation. There is no current ETA for when this will be resolved but stay posted!

    who ever exposed this bug better not obnly get kicked out of pwi but get sued amd i think i know who might know about this bug its -Edited-he said he was going to do something like this
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  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    i know! lets change the subject since this is causing so much stress to people...what was your goal for this year? O.o
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  • Yuukina - Sanctuary
    Yuukina - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    *sigh* Poor stressed out GMs...b:surrender
  • Pepper - Lost City
    Pepper - Lost City Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i know! lets change the subject since this is causing so much stress to people...what was your goal for this year? O.o

    lvl 100 b:laughb:chuckle
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Anjina - Sanctuary wrote: »
    TI am still actually utterly confused as to who bought the gold at high prices anyway O.O.. it is a true mystery to me

    Here's the solution to your mystery : they did not cared if they bought gold at 600k each, since they were able to make much more by buying some cash shop item for a few gold and get a few millions back by trading it for 150 dye and sell back the dyes to NPC
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  • whizzcat
    whizzcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Dar_Malkier - Lost City wrote: »
    Speaking as an IT manager with over 20 years experience, the solution to this "little quandry" should be quite simple. Any company worth thier salt performs nightly server backups....especially prior to an update. Now granted, I don't know how PWE does things since they obviously didn't implement any change control procedures to insure that the patch was ready to go prior to implementation, but if they did thier server backups, just export all transactions logs for reference, then restore the backup performed prior to last night's patch implementation.

    The transaction logs will show who purchased zhen gold and allow those players to get thier zhen gold back, which they could then sell or use as they see fit (minus the ability to exploit). Those who played and gained levels and such, well the game is played to be fun....just re-play the portion you've done since the patch. In fact, the quests and such should e a bit simpler as you will have already done them once before and will know what to expect.

    QQ all you want but the only way to insure that the in-game economy remains stable is to rollback to a pre-patch condition.

    There really isn't much I can add here. I've been in that same IT for about 6 years now as a systems operator. The procedure as mentioned above should be a workable one. It's simply a matter of restoring a backup without contaminating legal transactions, which can be filtered out, if they have got some good sense of programming and database scripting.

    I work with Electronic Patient Files (which contain absolutely really private information) every day and need to be on my guard retaining to data loss and such things. There are a lot of things which can be done to prevent just these kinds of situations. It should be ok. A commercial company can't afford to lose buyers this way.
  • ashlaern
    ashlaern Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i know! lets change the subject since this is causing so much stress to people...what was your goal for this year? O.o

    My goal was to start up my cattery. I'm still working on that. What's your goal?b:pleased
  • Vixentriel - Heavens Tear
    Vixentriel - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Divine_Demon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    who ever exposed this bug better not obnly get kicked out of pwi but get sued amd i think i know who might know about this bug its xXxFlexXx he said he was going to do something like this

    How old are you? -.-
  • Lcewolf - Lost City
    Lcewolf - Lost City Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Can't believe this is still going on :(

    What happened? Someone bought the gold items for cheaper and sold them for money? Can't Gms just delete the items? Or rollback the person who bought the items and not server?
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  • Maladramatic - Heavens Tear
    Maladramatic - Heavens Tear Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Vixentriel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    How old are you? -.-

    OMG Vix help im going insane :O
  • Rebs_floosie - Heavens Tear
    Rebs_floosie - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    b:shockedomg i cant sleepb:byeb:bye
  • Anjina - Sanctuary
    Anjina - Sanctuary Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Gadabout - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sorry - I totally disagree. An MMO is by definition something where the actions of others affect you. This is an example where it appears there is definite and extreme unfairness that has taken place - against both the rules and spirit of the game. It is not so much about the economy collapsing, as about the higher end of it only being available for the few in the future.

    What higher end?

    If you mean legendary molds and bikinis and what not - those were always just affordable to players who invested real life cash, and that a plenty.

    I tend to be so honest - I overpay other players for their items, just to make sure they don't fall anything short. I rather lose, before have some1 else loses O.O

    Whatever happened today, I have no clue what it was. Was it a glitch? I have no info on it as I have not come across it at all. I just know gold prices suddenly shot up - why - I am STILL not sure about that at all.

    I have heard many complain about other players having better equips, better this, better that, and not relating this to this specific occasion... I did wield a 2 star wand I had manufactured myself when all around me was an ocean of green TT weapons - and I was just fine ^^I felt special with my cheap non glow (still got it and NOT giving it away, although eventually many levels late I got a TT too *sighs and sniffles some*)

    High end will stay only available to those either saving like mad, or those who invest a lot of real life money. I don't think what happened today will have any bearings on that in any shape or form, but that has NOTHING to do with whether it is wrong to cheat. I hate cheating, but usually just feel sorry for the cheater, as cheating takes the fun away from achieving sth the hard way.

    Did those do wrong who sold gold today? Nopes - the spent real life money they had to earn first AWAY from PWI on that. This little fact should not be forgotten...
  • whizzcat
    whizzcat Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lcewolf - Lost City wrote: »
    Can't believe this is still going on :(

    Believe whatever you want. I've been in this situation at my work. I think the developpers are working their **** off at this moment to correct this in a way with which we all can live.
  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    ashlaern wrote: »
    My goal was to start up my cattery. I'm still working on that. What's your goal?b:pleased

    lol to do good in school, get scholarships, get my squat to 580, bench over 300, get my left arm fixed, and learn to play my guitar better. xD and perhaps find a special one...but i've got time. lol
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  • Pepper - Lost City
    Pepper - Lost City Posts: 161 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    whizzcat wrote: »
    Believe whatever you want. I've been in this situation at my work. I think the developpers are working their **** off at this moment to correct this in a way with which we all can live.

    agree
    after all its friday night (here anyway)
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  • Vixentriel - Heavens Tear
    Vixentriel - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Divine_Demon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    who ever exposed this bug better not obnly get kicked out of pwi but get sued amd i think i know who might know about this bug its -Edited-he said he was going to do something like this

    Who isnt going insane? b:laugh
  • Darkklegend - Sanctuary
    Darkklegend - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    OK! ENOUGH lets get back on track and wait for a GMb:shocked
  • Ukkie - Sanctuary
    Ukkie - Sanctuary Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol to do good in school, get scholarships, get my squat to 280, bench over 300, get my left arm fixed, and learn to play my guitar better. xD and perhaps find a special one...but i've got time. lol

    Lol, I agree on the guitar thing xD I need to work on that too
    Pepper - Lost City wrote: »
    agree
    after all its friday night (here anyway)

    Friday here too :P
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  • ExELFine - Heavens Tear
    ExELFine - Heavens Tear Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Leannekitten - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ok, if they do a roll back, is it only rolled back to yesterday because of the patch? i was 28 yesterday. and then went to bed before the patch.... so would i only loose the one level? or they gonna roll back more?

    Right, same here. I did my fb51 before the 2H am maintenance, i hope i won't have to redo it.

    PerfectWorld is one of the best games i've played but heck, it's just a game, glitches happen. The whole speculation about other players getting richer or not is just that, speculation.

    Perfect World is a game that encourages people to play together, it teaches us to trust other gamers by questing, grinding and winning together and sharing our drops. If some people want to make it something else, that's their problem, they're the miserable ones.

    Of course there are greedies, just like in real life, but I'd rather focus on the game than on the people in it, and join them in squads hoping we all share a great time playing.

    If i want some item/equip/etc and find it overpriced at catshops, i just go to the boutique and that's that: it's much less trouble that way. I guess a lot of people think and do likewise.

    Some might argue that they have no real money to invest in a virtual game, ha... it's a free-to-play game but the company has employees who have to feed their families, just like we do. Encouraging them by buying Zen is a just return for their efforts and services and i don't see anything wrong with it.

    So, let's hope the game returns soon and... que sera sera, have fun!

    b:pleased
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  • Maladramatic - Heavens Tear
    Maladramatic - Heavens Tear Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Vixentriel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Who isnt going insane? b:laugh

    lol aram is meant to be on in like 10 mins imma miss her now an not see her untill friggin sunday now damn the exploiters -_-b:angry
  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Ukkie - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Lol, I agree on the guitar thing xD I need to work on that too



    Friday here too :P

    lol i play lefty flip =D
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  • Ukkie - Sanctuary
    Ukkie - Sanctuary Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lu$t - Sanctuary wrote: »
    lol i play lefty flip =D

    I have no idea what that means, I play an accoustic one. Mostly a lot of Bob Dylan songs b:victory
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  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Ukkie - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I have no idea what that means, I play an accoustic one. Mostly a lot of Bob Dylan songs b:victory

    ah well lefty flip mean i play backwards but i havent reversed my strings yet. lol
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  • sanaro
    sanaro Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Hopefully I'm not being naive but I personally believe the vast majority of the people asking for a roll back just want the game to be enjoyable like it was at first. It's not about being jealous and/or envious of the players who benefited from what happened.

    Personally, I think that if they're able to track the people who *greatly* benefited from the bugs and therefore exploited the system then they should be banned. The ones who had a smaller impact could be penalized somehow.

    As far as we know there's no plan for a roll back as of yet but even if it does happen it's not the end of world guys! :) It could only be a 24 hour roll back if not less. If this company is any good they'll surely accept to refund money spent or do whatever it takes to satisfy it's customers. They don't want any of us to quit.

    Like stated a few pages back I think this is the first big test for these guys since it all started. So let's see how they do.
  • xxxzumsterxxx
    xxxzumsterxxx Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    i had the update yesterday to version 75......and i had a disconnected this morning. hahahhaha and i'm trying to log in again. it's said unable to connected to server, anything wrong, new bug or sumthing .......need help.
  • aryannamage
    aryannamage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Servers are currently please check the stickys.

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  • what900
    what900 Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    any idea how much longer till the servers are back up? id like to see if i can get outta lost today lol
  • Sdrassa - Sanctuary
    Sdrassa - Sanctuary Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    And I've learned something new. They should have emergency maintenances more often
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  • Lu$t - Sanctuary
    Lu$t - Sanctuary Posts: 1,005 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Sdrassa - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And I've learned something new. They should have emergency maintenances more often

    lol i told ya they hid the Easy button already b:laugh
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  • Anjina - Sanctuary
    Anjina - Sanctuary Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Here's the solution to your mystery : they did not cared if they bought gold at 600k each, since they were able to make much more by buying some cash shop item for a few gold and get a few millions back by trading it for 150 dye and sell back the dyes to NPC

    But has it been confirmed this really happened like that? Although hearing of that strange glitch with the boutique items, it would make sense.

    Definitely not the fault of those who sell gold.
    Gosh.. all those who never deposit, pleeeeeaaase remember - without those investing real life cash, there would be no game at all. It is those who buy gold with real money who keep this game free for everybody else to play.
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