G17 WEAPON PROC TESTS

superfedee

Ok guys, i think i am the first or the only with a g17 third cast,
next days i will be slowly testing out g17 weapon procs for you guys and post youtube videos of proc chances.

Seems also that the reforging process doesn't cost chienkuns to pass refines\sockets\shards

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Benevolent Ward Proc chance: 15%

You get 100% focused mind - style buff for 8 seconds, and a DoT right after for 20 seconds

Description typo: The 5% of the damage absorbed will be dealt every second for 20 seconds as a DoT that cannot be prevented.
Shield proc is available again, right after DoT expires.

DoT cannot be quid pro quod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfPNZRdoALw

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Cascaded Doom: Proc chance: 11,5%

You get a buff that lasts 10 seconds that increase your crit rate and your crit damage.
Proc goes off with everything, auto attacks, skills and skills that apply debuffs
Cascaded doom buff stacks with every other crit rate and crit damage buff.

This proc doesnt have a use imho, gof/other procs have way better damage amp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoL3RgBNl0

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Dimlight Figure Proc chance: 5%

You become untargetable, foes tabbing you lose focus, you can't receive direct damage, you still receive damage and CC from aoes.
You can use your full skillset while untargetable.

It's the proc i am gonna stick with for now, this saves your **** when you are getting assist attacked by multiple sources and they won't be able to land direct damage on you and lose focus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUf42PHCV4Y

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Windtrail Shadow Proc chance: 5%

You get a 100% focused mind buff with no drawback, it's better than benevolent ward, proc chance is way lower tho, you still are targetable and subject to CC, you can use your full skillset during the buff duration.

Idk someone might like it, can help tank more hits but still, low proc chance and it's not a real immune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMSWwXmSfTw

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Dragonstone Armor Proc chance: 5%

You get a 100% tidal that blocks even paralyze and disarm.

Same proc chance as CH purify, this proc has no use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5eZgaG6KB8

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Heartbite rend Proc chance: circa 10%

You debuff your target for 100% of its physical and magical resistance, debuff stacks with every other debuff in game, debuff is applied with every other skill, auto attack, skill that apply debuff

OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCAarc9LDWA

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Spirit blackhole Proc chance: around 20%

You purge now with all your skills, all your autos, and with skills that apply debuff or with multi hit skills
Proc has ridicolous high chance, sadly it seems that for the aoes proc is calculated individually for each target that receives damage.

It's good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xhL6eyGZpo

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side note: many asked me how much i've spent to obtain this weapon, yes was a crapload of money, just the reroll process to be able to analyze all the procs costed me around 600million coins.

Imo what i've done here should've been done already by PWI devs in first place, to avoid boundless-alike fiascos, and to actually incentivize the playerbase to purchase gold in order to achieve the weapons. @orinj @thenamesdomino @surtr

Would make my day if any person of the staff would say "thank you man".

(this costed me few thousands just for "research purposes" ^^)​​

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dblazen1

superfedee wrote: »

Benevolent Ward: proc chance 20%

Activation: shield that acts as 100% focused mind, shield lasts 8 seconds confirmed, dot that comes after lasts 20 seconds confirmed.
Damage coming from the dot is deftly not the 5%, we are more close to 50% of what you receive during the shield duration.
Dot cant be purified anyhow, goes through faith, AD, IG, umbral

Shield refresh time is calculated @ shield end and dot start, so after the dot you have 10 seconds lapse then shield is available again.

Pros: high proc chance
Cons: Dot deals way too much damage

video soon

The thing is that the description is missing a part (a pretty important part at that); the 20 second DoT ignores defense.
If it's the case that it uses 5% damage of the raw output (no defense reduction accounted) an attack would do, then yes, that will hurt like hell.
I can't imagine what it would do to a catabarb that would get absolutely nuked in TW​​

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dblazen1

superfedee wrote: »

dblazen1 wrote: »

superfedee wrote: »

Benevolent Ward: proc chance 20%

Activation: shield that acts as 100% focused mind, shield lasts 8 seconds confirmed, dot that comes after lasts 20 seconds confirmed.
Damage coming from the dot is deftly not the 5%, we are more close to 50% of what you receive during the shield duration.
Dot cant be purified anyhow, goes through faith, AD, IG, umbral

Shield refresh time is calculated @ shield end and dot start, so after the dot you have 10 seconds lapse then shield is available again.

Pros: high proc chance
Cons: Dot deals way too much damage

video soon

The thing is that the description is missing a part (a pretty important part at that); the 20 second DoT ignores defense.
If it's the case that it uses 5% damage of the raw output (no defense reduction accounted) an attack would do, then yes, that will hurt like hell.
I can't imagine what it would do to a catabarb that would get absolutely nuked in TW

i've briefly watched video it seems you get 5% of total damage you have received during shield duration, every second for 20 seconds

Expected as much, translations are crappy once again
But that's fairly easy to check.
Get 2 characters, take off all gear (the one with the proc weapon should keep weapon), check what normal damage is for a single hit.
Get the proc to go off, do 1 hit (the same hit), wait for damage to start​​

jsxshadow

The more important question is...how much dmg do you get during the uptime of the shield..can you still be cced? or is it like immunity?

dblazen1

jsxshadow wrote: »

The more important question is...how much dmg do you get during the uptime of the shield..can you still be cced? or is it like immunity?

If the shield acts as 100% focused mind, then the incoming damage during shield should be displaying 1 per hit. Else it should say damage immune, or something.

Absorbing damage is not the same as CC immune, so i'm gonna go ahead and say you can probably be CC'd​​

catgirldesu

Thank you for going through the trouble to test the procs.

This one does seem to be kind of useless...

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eirghan

Awesome thanks for this info. Thats a very strange proc i wonder what its usefulness would be....

asterelle

superfedee wrote: »

Seems also that the reforging process doesn't cost chienkuns to pass refines\sockets\shards

To be more clear it is rerolling that has no chienkun cost. Doing the forging has a high chienkun cost (0.9).
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dregen543210

superfedee wrote: »

Dimlight Figure: umbral icon, you become untargetable for 5 seconds, you can take actions while untargetable, who is attacking you loses target, you don't take damage in this state, proc chance 8%

Pro: this sh.it is broken
Con: i dont wanna reroll my weapon to try other procs now

video soon​​

This and the invincibility proc were the 2 that had the potential to be mega-broken if not configured properly, glad PWI lived up to it's expectations and completely failed at balance once again.

dingo488

superfedee wrote: »

Dimlight Figure: umbral icon, you become untargetable for 5 seconds, you can take actions while untargetable, who is attacking you loses target, you don't take damage in this state, proc chance 8%

Pro: this sh.it is broken
Con: i dont wanna reroll my weapon to try other procs now

video soon​​

the shield shows a 30 seconds cooldown, is there one here?

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capnk

superfedee wrote: »

you can take actions while untargetable​​

So you can attack? But if you try to heal yourself it doesn't work?

Thanks for checking these.

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dingo488

ah there we go lol...

I was thinking it would be insanely broken with you saying you cant take damage... so I was wondering if you made a mistake there. If you still take damage from AoEs then you also still get hit by AoE CC... I guess the proc is good for the 1 guy that cares about 1v1s but in xTW/TW its pretty worthless

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dingo488

but if you are in xTW/TW you spend 90% of the time in a vortex, being untargetable does nothing for you, you'll still just get hit by all the AoEs, dont rly see a useful application, but for small skirmishes it will be pretty sweet

either way its prolly better than purify x)

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asterelle

Does stagnant plague affect the efficacy of charm ticks? If charm ticks are cut to 50% strength it might be useful but.. ehh.

G17 purify has the same addon id as the weak version of purify (5% proc chance), GOF was also the same ID as normal GoF (20%).
I knew that G17 spirit blackhole was changed but wasn't sure how.
If it works with all skills and really has a 20% proc that sounds pretty nice.
I wonder if these proc chances are the same for ranged skills as they are with melee though.​​

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dregen543210

Hmm, interesting. With these double procs it seems like PWI is trying to base victory/defeat more reliant on random chance. If the proc chance for the 30% channel is anywhere near 20% that's probably what I'll go for as mystic - with all the defensive procs the only reliable way to kill people is to just abuse skills like insta-Absorb Souls etc.

The crit damage proc will definitely be the worst one, with maybe the heal debuff coming in 2nd.

asterelle

Full aoe purges? People might be spamming genie skills like tangling mire or lv1 earthquake for that...

Frost splash would do well too... normally that never purges. If theres a 20% chance then thats a 67% chance one of the 5 aoes will purge, and in the update those 5 hits will all happen in 1 second too.​​

eirghan

Fml... I hope it doesnt work like that. Its going to be even more important to spread out if aoe means insta purge.

The good side to that is basically renders buffs useless since everyone would be purged constantly anyway, and gives room for every single effin dd class who prioritizes anything larger than 1v1s to get inventive with which proc they choose rather than default to purge

Pros:archer gets some love (finally) and vit builds will be loving their gear when every josd build will be purged.
Cons: veno loses importance in many instances lmao. Sb gains importance in tw by grouping large groups to up chance of purge.... Purge seekers will be ruthless since they have unlimited large range aoes.

Question: i would assume not but will purge proc with bm roar? That would be broken lol.

shopcheese

This sounds more game breaking than i ever could had imagined it would turn out

capnk

Dump your stock of JoSDs, they'll be useless when this purge proc becomes widespread. Ugh I might as well uninstall now and save myself some time.

For Heartbite Rend is that 100% debuff (reducing 180% pdef to 80%) or is it defense-> 0 like Demon Ironwood?