So is anyone actually gonna listen to your server commander?

2

Comments

  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    I think OP worries too much. We've been living without any leader on NW for years and feel fine. How can having one be worse than that? Besides, if players really want to lose, no leader can stop them pig-2.gif​​
    Sg4FlzA.png
  • zentfamily
    zentfamily Posts: 234 Arc User
    May the one with most alts be the victor.
    ZentVedr - Retired at last. Or am I?
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,885 Community Moderator
    edited November 2015
    I Volunteer As Tribute!

    The things is the first time will be complete well... no one will know what they are doing will they...​​
  • This content has been removed.
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,885 Community Moderator
    People have been asking for a good coin sink. This looks ok to me.

    The commander has the power to limit Entry to 7 Wars on Class Soulforce that we know off. He also has the ability to make each battle give 25% or 50% more merit for the next battles finished. So its your choice. This could work very well in your rights if servers can work as a team. I cant see this happening mind as everyone is vs everyone. This wont be SvS it will be worse than a royal rumble.

    Well not unless you surprise me. You may not like the commander you may like them. Either way work as a team to get the job done. or show spite and come last. Your Choice. A good leader can take a battle with out gears or numbers.

    Just one other thing, I would not blame the first commander. Its gona be a tough game to play not knowing the controls for the first time.

    Lets Finnish.​​
  • razzzza
    razzzza Posts: 456 Arc User
    heero200 wrote: »
    The commander has the power to limit Entry to 7 Wars on Class Soulforce that we know off. He also has the ability to make each battle give 25% or 50% more merit for the next battles finished. So its your choice. This could work very well in your rights if servers can work as a team. I cant see this happening mind as everyone is vs everyone. This wont be SvS it will be worse than a royal rumble.

    I just see it as a good squad or two can roll their own thing and never communicate with the rest and make big money/credits out of it.
    I cant see someone be a commander who has not top gear or is "popular" on WC or pvp or whatever.

    Imagine someone who is a big troll on wc because he is so cool and has pvp power gets the commander status, do you think people who dont like his jokes on WC will do what he says? probably not.
    Maybe someone who is kind of hated because of a big ego and whatnot on the server? i just cant see it.

    This system will probably never work as intended and i would be suprised if it does.​​
    m5k9ne4c.jpg
  • heerohex#3018
    heerohex#3018 Posts: 4,885 Community Moderator
    razzzza wrote: »
    heero200 wrote: »
    The commander has the power to limit Entry to 7 Wars on Class Soulforce that we know off. He also has the ability to make each battle give 25% or 50% more merit for the next battles finished. So its your choice. This could work very well in your rights if servers can work as a team. I cant see this happening mind as everyone is vs everyone. This wont be SvS it will be worse than a royal rumble.

    I just see it as a good squad or two can roll their own thing and never communicate with the rest and make big money/credits out of it.
    I cant see someone be a commander who has not top gear or is "popular" on WC or pvp or whatever.

    Imagine someone who is a big troll on wc because he is so cool and has pvp power gets the commander status, do you think people who dont like his jokes on WC will do what he says? probably not.
    Maybe someone who is kind of hated because of a big ego and whatnot on the server? i just cant see it.

    This system will probably never work as intended and i would be suprised if it does.

    My point is you may not have a choice either play like it is or don't.

    I can understand what people are saying about following orders. But I will ask what do you think happens in most nations? It looks to me like people will have control over free will which battles they want to choose. Just the commander can kinda direct. It annoys me when you have 2 people in an instance Vs 12 and in the one next to it you have 20 vs 1... Good and bad to this I think.

    All im going to do is keep an open mind and see what it brings... I know I wont be the commander any time soon, I don't have funds so...​​
  • kawosz
    kawosz Posts: 2 Arc User
    I kinda have a feeling that even if we will vote on a commander, it won't be like a "TW commander" each faction has, coming up with strategies etc. That would be too stupid even for PWI, to expect an entire server do what 1 person says and blindly trust them. I believe that 1 person or NPC perhaps as "Commander" will be able to maybe adjust settings, build resources etc in NW, I don't see any other logical way of using this"Commander" thing....
    image
  • blazerboy
    blazerboy Posts: 1,673 Arc User
    I just hate the fact commanders may have the right to set requirements such as class and SF dont I currently have 43k which I get it not so much as some people but jesus still **** people who havent gone beyond full plus 10 which is quite a bit if they say for example nothing below 40k

    Also I feel the class part os the worse of it all. Naturally certain classes in game dont have the highest ratings in terms of popularity gg Archers/Seekers. If the leader is ignorant and values certain classes that have extreme advantages it really screws over people who dont play popular classes :(
    105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
    http://mypers.pw/5/#258958
  • kittyempressa
    kittyempressa Posts: 268 Arc User
    heero200 wrote: »
    Lets Finnish.

    Oh, the forums are in Finnish naow?

    Jännä kyllä että sellaisenkin sallivat. Eikös näiden pitänyt olla täys engrish-foorumit?

    Mutta se kyllä tiedetään ettei sitä johtajaa tuu kuuntelemaan kukaan. Vaikka ilkeä johtaja voi olla hyvinkin ilkeä noilla kontrolleilla. Pitää vaan toivoa ettei ketään idioottia pääsisi johtajaksi. Tosin ihan kuin Kitty välittäisi kun Kitty ei kuitenkaan tee NW:tä.
    ​​
    4ovsoib.jpg

    Kitty's gone. She gave up on PWI. And she's a black metal Kitty naow.

    Kitty's Youtube-channel("Kitty does eet"-series and much moar): KittysamaRT
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I have a feeling there will be certain limitations to the amount of limitations the server commander will be able to make. But considering that all who can attend that cross server NW has a vote if that server commander does not perform with the best interests of the server's NW then it could be the very last time they get that chance. Also if they really do bad it will harm the reputation of their faction on the server too. Would they really want to become a hated faction and have their people desert because the server commander wants to be an *ss? This is something they would need to think about.

    Also, if there is a limit of 200 to 250 people who can attend a cross server NW I would rather the commander have the ability to choose the strongest players on our server to compete. I don't know where some of you have this notion that cross server NW is meant to be a farming instance for tokens. It is meant to compete against the top players from other servers. It is meant for our server to be victorious just like 2 factions going at it in TW. The reward is a bonus. I'm not the strongest PvP player on my server and it really wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if I didn't make the cut because I'm undergeared as long as someone else stronger than me has my place instead.

    The same goes for the cross server TW.
    Post edited by jadasia on
  • dagoddominator
    dagoddominator Posts: 218 Arc User
    i think the first 2 or three elections will def be popularity contests, but afterwards ppl will realize that if we dont actually place a good commander in charge we will be **** ourselves over.

    i wonder how the squad dynamic will change in all of this. if the commander can restrict access by class doesnt that mean squads will be split or unable to travel together at some point. this will add a new layer of strategy i think.

    also i think it would be nice if each nation were considered ONE squad for purposes of buffing etc... i mean the squad in local NW makes little sense to begin with since all the settings are basically by nation and you are not competing with your nationmates, except for within instance and that is not squad based either. not to say they will do it but it would be awesome if you didnt have to squad at all and you could area buff and hit all of your nationmates.

    awww wishful thinking, but as for commander since its a coin sink it is not hard to see that there wont be a large amount of candidates.
  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    dawnglory reaction to nation wars commander announcement egg-2.gifegg-2.gifegg-2.gifegg-2.gif

    24wqzd2.jpg

    egg-2.gifegg-2.gifegg-2.gifegg-2.gif​​
  • venoxxx
    venoxxx Posts: 6 Arc User
    First of all no one player(Commander) should have the power to limit other classes/players as to what battle they can enter in NW. I can understand where that is required in a TW situation but not NW. Your giving a player the power to control others and its just wrong. I worked too hard to get where I am in game an build up my gear just to have someone tell me what to do. This will be a historic world chat troll event lol Might actually be worth watching :D
  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    venoxxx said:

    First of all no one player(Commander) should have the power to limit other classes/players as to what battle they can enter in NW. I can understand where that is required in a TW situation but not NW. Your giving a player the power to control others and its just wrong. I worked too hard to get where I am in game an build up my gear just to have someone tell me what to do. This will be a historic world chat troll event lol Might actually be worth watching :D

    A commander should be allowed to command.
  • venoxxx
    venoxxx Posts: 6 Arc User
    This is not the military! Its a game where people come to have fun. Well most do.
  • capnk
    capnk Posts: 486 Arc User
    Nation Wars is not fun. It is srs bzns.
  • kittyempressa
    kittyempressa Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    venoxxx wrote: »
    This is not the military! Its a game where people come to have fun. Well most do.

    PWI ish life. Life ish not fun. Life ish work. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl. All work and no play makes Kitty a dull girl.
    ​​
    4ovsoib.jpg

    Kitty's gone. She gave up on PWI. And she's a black metal Kitty naow.

    Kitty's Youtube-channel("Kitty does eet"-series and much moar): KittysamaRT
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!
  • darkonome
    darkonome Posts: 253 Arc User
    I think some people are massively overreacting (surprise surprise).

    The commander position looks like someones going to be paying quite a bit of coin to be able to place some general restrictions on 'key' battles, I think the number I saw was 7 lands, out of most probably a larger NW map than we have atm, and they will set # for classes to enter those key battles and also SF restrictions.

    I highly doubt they will add a SF restriction able to be set by the 'commander' to even enter this NW, it's just to stop people dragging their nab alts into the key chokepoint battles that matter.

    I wonder what happens if no one elects to run as commander, or what reward if any the commander gets out of this, the novelty aspect will get boring pretty fast even for the power crazed meglomaniacs from each server.
    DarkSkiesx
    Tideswell
    Tempest-dw.shivtr.com
    youtube.com/darkskiesx
    http://mypers.pw/8/#373457
  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    is nation commander able to kick certain players from nation wars? egg-2.gif i would pay for that egg-2.gif​​
  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    venoxxx wrote: »
    First of all no one player(Commander) should have the power to limit other classes/players as to what battle they can enter in NW.
    But they will have power x) And you are overreacting ;) There are a lot of ppl and situations in game which can prevent you from doing what you want.
    limonazza wrote: »
    is nation commander able to kick certain players from nation wars? egg-2.gif i would pay for that egg-2.gif

    Fortunately or unfortunately no, he can't do it monkey-47.gif
    ​​
    Sg4FlzA.png
  • zoldickun
    zoldickun Posts: 197 Arc User
    There are 4 servers and each nation will represent a server, right ? So it means that, basically, nation1 can have 400 people and nation4 only 100 for example ?
  • prancing
    prancing Posts: 143 Arc User
    The real question is what rewards does the commander get? Does he make the land he is in worth more over and over? GG OP

    For me crushing these other servers will be reward enough !!! ;)
    m5arXCN.png
  • prancing
    prancing Posts: 143 Arc User
    Someone make the cross server NW trash talk thread. I'm sure there will be at least some imbalance in the nations. However just like regular NW the winner will be more likely to be ganked.
    m5arXCN.png
  • jadasia
    jadasia Posts: 520 Arc User
    venoxxx said:

    This is not the military! Its a game where people come to have fun. Well most do.

    Who said it was a military? It's a game and cross server NW/TW seems like it needs a lot of coordination between players to succeed in a victory. Coordination needs some form of structure and direction. If you think it's too much like a military for you then you do not have to participate.
  • asterelle
    asterelle Posts: 861 Arc User
    There isn't all that much functionality in the commander role. You set restrictions on certain key battles (likely used on battles near your own or enemy HQ) and you can increase the points for a few battles. There isn't much coordination needed above a squad level.​​
  • tictic99999
    tictic99999 Posts: 204 Arc User
    the point of the commander is to make alts impossible to play. at least that should be the goal. Make min soulforce 20k or something.​​
    thfunny-21-1.gif
    (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)
    Dawnglory's legendary Stormbringer ShockWave LV 105-105-103
    7 year old Harshlands character, semi-retired Wizard Boomz
    Will he reach 1800 spirit?
  • shade13
    shade13 Posts: 633 Arc User
    the point of the commander is to make alts impossible to play. at least that should be the goal. Make min soulforce 20k or something.

    For limited number of lands only. Won't work.
    ​​
    Sg4FlzA.png
  • limonazza
    limonazza Posts: 332 Arc User
    do we have cross server chat? pliz egg-18.gif​​
  • kittyempressa
    kittyempressa Posts: 268 Arc User
    the point of the commander is to make alts impossible to play. at least that should be the goal. Make min soulforce 20k or something.

    You're saying "prevent anyone with less than r9rr+10 from entering the fight"? Lots of Kitty's main army ish T3+7 armored with T3+10-weapon and none of them has 20k soulforce yet. Though ofc leveling to 102 or something might help but Kitty seriously thinks she doesn't need lvl 102 to be effective support. And by effective support Kitty means purging, CCing and debuffing her enemies to swift death by her nation mates <.<​​
    4ovsoib.jpg

    Kitty's gone. She gave up on PWI. And she's a black metal Kitty naow.

    Kitty's Youtube-channel("Kitty does eet"-series and much moar): KittysamaRT
    Get the Forums Enhancement Extension!