EtherBlade Server

rawynn

So since the section of forums for this hasn't been changed yet, I figured I'd do it this way

So now we have had our server merge, so I figured that I would start a discussion thread about how things are going.

so feel free to voice your experiences so far with this new merge; be it good, bad, ugly, or anything else that you may have noticed or have encountered so far.

bloodedone87

How things are going on Etherblade?
have you logged in?
Is war between players from Archosaur and players from Heaven Tears.
And all due to the fact that we do things in PVE differently.
Archosaur people set FSP squad on free and name a person who does axes on toad.
HT people set squad on random and do axes on random.
Archosaur people set FWS squad on free and resquad at the end on random at the luckiest one gets EOO
HT people set on random and split the EOO.

That was the drama subject on Etherblade chat all day long in the first day of the merge...

belnor

So far it's been okay. It is nice to see more people out and about. West Archo is more like when I started playing the game, really packed.

Had to turn off world chat cause of the excessive consumption of tele's (just too hard to follow it all).

Had a bit of lag later in the evening. FSP and TT were a bit of a problem to complete because of it. Have seen issues with that before the merger.

Looking forward to seeing how NW and TW goes this weekend. Really want to see the cross server stuff happen.

It's gonna take time to adjust but in the long run I think this all will be a good thing.

pwizz23

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Archosaur people set FSP squad on free and name a person who does axes on toad.
HT people set squad on random and do axes on random.
Archosaur people set FWS squad on free and resquad at the end on random at the luckiest one gets EOO
HT people set on random and split the EOO.

FSP:
Arch people apparently can't handle axes on random. Takes skill to be able to do axes on random.

For EoO...
HT sells the EoO to whatever catshop is buying for the highest and splits coins. Every one gets a share in coin equally. Squad starts on free, stays on free the whole run, and lead splits emblems at the end.
Arch lets it go randomly to one person. Hope your luck is good, otherwise you're doing a whole run for nothing. Lots of nothing.

cira1818

How is it going you ask?

world chat was nutty as a trail mix! and fights of more drama and trying to functions as one i imagine will not go over well for awhile stores mixed around in west, but other then that pleasently surprised to see people doing dailies

sinstomper

pwizz23 wrote: »

FSP:
Arch people apparently can't handle axes on random. Takes skill to be able to do axes on random.

For EoO...
HT sells the EoO to whatever catshop is buying for the highest and splits coins. Every one gets a share in coin equally. Squad starts on free, stays on free the whole run, and lead splits emblems at the end.
Arch lets it go randomly to one person. Hope your luck is good, otherwise you're doing a whole run for nothing. Lots of nothing.

makes sense.

this was a bold change of pace. cant wait to get back in the game !!

bloodedone87

pwizz23 wrote: »

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Archosaur people set FSP squad on free and name a person who does axes on toad.
HT people set squad on random and do axes on random.
Archosaur people set FWS squad on free and resquad at the end on random at the luckiest one gets EOO
HT people set on random and split the EOO.

FSP:
Arch people apparently can't handle axes on random. Takes skill to be able to do axes on random.

For EoO...
HT sells the EoO to whatever catshop is buying for the highest and splits coins. Every one gets a share in coin equally. Squad starts on free, stays on free the whole run, and lead splits emblems at the end.
Arch lets it go randomly to one person. Hope your luck is good, otherwise you're doing a whole run for nothing. Lots of nothing.

Wrong. You dont do the run for nothing. You do the run for badges and molds and emblems.
I dont want to waste my time waiting till someone finds the catshop that buy it for the highest price.
I give a **** about 500k I may get it. For me its either the EOO or nothing.

dblazen1

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pwizz23 wrote: »

bloodedone87 wrote: »

Archosaur people set FSP squad on free and name a person who does axes on toad.
HT people set squad on random and do axes on random.
Archosaur people set FWS squad on free and resquad at the end on random at the luckiest one gets EOO
HT people set on random and split the EOO.

FSP:
Arch people apparently can't handle axes on random. Takes skill to be able to do axes on random.

For EoO...
HT sells the EoO to whatever catshop is buying for the highest and splits coins. Every one gets a share in coin equally. Squad starts on free, stays on free the whole run, and lead splits emblems at the end.
Arch lets it go randomly to one person. Hope your luck is good, otherwise you're doing a whole run for nothing. Lots of nothing.

This just shows the irony of calling pve carebear, while these are the things pvp servers used to care about?



On that note; axes don't take skill at all, not on free nor on random.
Also
>Running FSP with squads
PvP plebs.
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koudelkamorgan

To be honest, I've already blacklisted half of HT and I'm well on my way to blacklisting half of Arch too. You think I'm kidding right, because eventually the BL gets full. Not mine. I just relog and I can add more. Its annoying to have to do that for three characters and get the same names on all three as they appear, but seriously HOW COULD YOU PLAY WITH WC ON OTHERWISE?

As for FSP, I only join squads invites on random and I only run WS with my faction to begin with. What we do is if a mold drops that some one wants they pick it up and drop the npc value of it in coins and then pick that up too. instant split. For EOO they do the same, and no one throws a damn fit over it.

The reason I prefer random in FSP is because invariably on free one person gets everything and ditches, or stands there afk at end till everyone leaves. Also if half the people aren't going to help kill the mobs and pick up the pages, then I'd rather they still get some based on RNG instead of expecting them to be handed to them whether then literally did anything helpful to get them. I don't want to waste my time collecting the pages only to hand them over later. I don't want to have to resquad at the end and end up getting killed by trolls.

I already have a separate list of people that repeatedly and with no provocation drop squad to kill people, or want chi and then jump in the lava while holding you for lols because they can tick your charm or whatever. When they show up, even if I'm at Toad I just leave. Let the squad have them, I have zero **** to give.

MOST IMPORTANTLY with fsp, I prefer it on random because it means that everyone has to pay attention. You don't just have one person in charge of axes, then they die from idiocy or bad luck and you are screwed while you wait for them to come back, mean while half the squad is afk on macros because they aren't healing, tanking, axing or puri, then why bother looking at the screen?

If you can't handle axes, that is not my problem. It is literally as easy as seeing a buff icon and clicking a huge throw button in the middle of the screen. If that is too much for you, then regardless of which server you came from, no one that knows wtf they are doing is going to sqaud with you more than once. How an entire server got into the habit of "not my problem" when it comes down to FSP is frankly absurd. What is more is that its people FROM Arch server that are the ones telling everyone how bad their server was at axes.

Proactively spreading the word that any name you may be unfamiliar with in your fsp squad probably has no business being there is kinda sad people.

yugi2390

bloodedone87 wrote: »

How things are going on Etherblade?
have you logged in?
Is war between players from Archosaur and players from Heaven Tears.
And all due to the fact that we do things in PVE differently.
Archosaur people set FSP squad on free and name a person who does axes on toad.
HT people set squad on random and do axes on random.
Archosaur people set FWS squad on free and resquad at the end on random at the luckiest one gets EOO
HT people set on random and split the EOO.

That was the drama subject on Etherblade chat all day long in the first day of the merge...

Your not exactly right there on the full warsongs. Not to argue or point out flaws, but our acronyms for the runs are different. For example archosaur people say FW, we just say full warsong same thing no bigee. Now the other way to do full warsong is teleporting into the bosses if you have the DD. We HT players call this spawn warsong because you are teleporting into the spawn point of the bosses. Archosaur calls it Mobless FW, which i dont understand because you are still killing mobs in the defend. But the part you are wrong on is yes some people put warsong on randum but most of us put it on free and have 1 person bank the emblems, molds people dont need and the EoO. Then the EoO is either bought in squad or sold to a shop outside warsong and the coin from that EoO is split between the squad. TBH i dont care which way it gets done, badges are badges nonetheless. Seem more fair for people to get an equal split than let 1 person make off with what i will call the "lottery" when they will more than likely just sell it as an absurd price to begin with. People also think that we HT players do something similar with lunar and EoD's which is not the case. If you pay the 3mil to open lunar than the gold mats if any drop at all and the EoD goes to that person unless they specify that they do not want it. Also the FSP thing, i wont join a fsp squad on free for 2 reasons.

1. Instance has been out enough that people should know the mechanics enough on toad to throw axes correctly.
2. If a book drops, its more fair to be on randum right away many people are impatient and kill kill kill as fast as they can so they can leave. Therefore if it is on free people will just take it and leave after the run. Some may agree to doing it your way but once that book hits the ground i doubt many people from HT will wait for the glowing stars or glitter as some called it to disappear before they have grabby fingers in which the book will just go to whoever picked it up.

The way this will more than likely work is there following: People will stick to their server's squad make ups. It's easy enough to tell for warsong what server the person is on based on the verbage in the recruiting world chat. Like i said before I'm not trying to start an arguement of any kind, but people need to get their facts straight about the other server before making assumptions. And if anything i said aboout Archosaur server is wrong I'm sorry, its just what I've noticed from the randum stuff being said in world chat throughtout the day. Not all of us from the other server are bad, although there are some that make big deals out of nothing like -snip-. I may troll the acronyms on world chat myself but its just good old fashioned fun and means nnotihng more than that. We've called it our way and you've called it your way and i highly doubt either side wants to change the way they say it, however it seems that each side wants the other to change.

"That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works..."
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hoover69

Lol i tried following chat and couldn't, all that fighting over stupid **** i had to cover it with my quest log, i never done FSP for the simple fact that i need to be in a team with other people if i can't solo it i won't bother, i hate dealing with people, they always fighting, calling people scammers or noobs for doing **** their own way or just plain boss you around like if they own you, oh same reasons i dont join factions anymore lol

best thing to do in my book is avoid the **** and if you are force to do **** with people cover chat and do your part and then run

cynderangel

What I'm getting out of a lot of these posts is that doing something different makes you wrong, stupid, or a noob. I hope people get over it. Discuss how you'll do the split before you run, and there shouldn't be any drama at the end of the run.

As far as the axes thing on toad, players on Archo server have been discouraged from trying anything new in the past by players who don't want to give them a chance to learn. If an HT player can't take 5 seconds to tell someone who has never done axes what to look for, stay in your elitist bubble and be just as bad as the Archo players who told me that I'm a cleric, so I shouldn't learn axes.

hypereccentrik

I'm not on 24/7 but so far it has been enjoyable. WC doesn't bother me, I have my chat settings set to display squad and guild. PK is a little dissapointing, I was expecting to see more of Defiance / Flipside but nothing much yet, maybe I'm on at the wrong times but like others have said I am looking very forward to TW/ NW.

chchchchia

koudelkamorgan wrote: »

To be honest, I've already blacklisted half of HT and I'm well on my way to blacklisting half of Arch too. You think I'm kidding right, because eventually the BL gets full. Not mine. I just relog and I can add more. Its annoying to have to do that for three characters and get the same names on all three as they appear, but seriously HOW COULD YOU PLAY WITH WC ON OTHERWISE?

Yeah, world chat is definitely bad; I've just had to turn it off for the time being. But I'm sure it will settle down in time.

FSP and WS are causing some drama but again, we know this will work out in due course. For the time being people that make squads will just have to define how it will be done in that squad, but I think eventually it will be less of an issue. And being that those two issues are the only real problem, I'd say things are going well.

I have met some nice people from Archosaur and I think it will be a nice change. West Arch is a bit of a mess though, as was expected... I find it very difficult to browse shops with so many clustered together. And I imagine people with older computers are having a tough time doing anything in that district.

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oreowarrior

As to this FSP random thing. Its a shame ill never be able to run fsp with you. Axes on random sucks. It leaves WAYYYY too much to chance.
-If Axes go to tank, they gotta waste time looking for the icon and then throwing it. If its a Nonbarb tank, they could lose aggro or die cuz they couldnt focus on their timing.(before someone says "timing isnt that hard", it really is that hard. Unless you have someone else who knows the timing helping you, you need to be watchful and CAREFUL on timing)
-Someone might be new or just never had to do axes before. Boss hp resets cuz he threw too early or not at all.
-Someone AFK gets it or someone in the middle of a dc.
-Not axes now. People who dont help dont deserve pages. Pick them up, remember who helped you get them, and only give to them at the end. You make it sound like this is difficult.
-After pages are gathered and before you start Blossom, make the squad random. That way books goes to whoever gets it.
(Of the 4 servers(of the original 8) that ive been able to do fsps with, HT is the only one to do fsps on random)
As to the FW(S) thing
-That sounds like you try and make it easy for someone to say "going to go sell" they leave instance and squad, and your out 500k and a chance at an EOO.

Not that im actually gunna do FW(S) for a while but yknow, its nice to know that people are having complaints over this.

ford427

I am in the process of reawakening my veno but can't seem to stay in game recieved atleast 9 error reports , would like to get her done atleast to 100. Its very frustrating when you can't stay on past 5 minutes . Thank you

yugi2390

cynderangel wrote: »

What I'm getting out of a lot of these posts is that doing something different makes you wrong, stupid, or a noob. I hope people get over it. Discuss how you'll do the split before you run, and there shouldn't be any drama at the end of the run.

As far as the axes thing on toad, players on Archo server have been discouraged from trying anything new in the past by players who don't want to give them a chance to learn. If an HT player can't take 5 seconds to tell someone who has never done axes what to look for, stay in your elitist bubble and be just as bad as the Archo players who told me that I'm a cleric, so I shouldn't learn axes.

wow that's a horrible thing to say to a cleric, but on HT we did teach people if they had never done it but most of the time they kept silent and didn't tell anyone they didn't do it.

pay

I AM NEW CAN SOMEONE HELP ME START UP IN THE NEW SERVER?

iconique

WC has been entertaining. It's a nice reading distraction for me as I recover from a surgery. All the fighting over AFK spots and dungeon runs was really hilarious honestly. There were quite a few players who dislike a certain individual who spams the channel with his singing but personally, I like how WC is lively again.

One thing I'm frazzled over is the disorganization of west district. I checked all the servers frequently when I was active to compare economies and one thing I noticed is HT was one of the neater ones. Their catshops were grouped together by types (dyes, packs, fash, etc.) and it was incredibly convenient. Now after merging with Archosaur, it's an utter mess since some people won't compromise and refuse to budge from their designated selling spots; that's understandable, of course. Shopping is now pretty overwhelming because the shops are all over the place.

yugi2390

OH GOD YES. I was about to make it a guild event to find certain items and give them 1mil for finding the item I was gonna buy

eirghan

koudelkamorgan wrote: »

To be honest, I've already blacklisted half of HT and I'm well on my way to blacklisting half of Arch too.........I already have a separate list of people that repeatedly and with no provocation drop squad to kill people, or want chi and then jump in the lava while holding you for lols because they can tick your charm or whatever. When they show up, even if I'm at Toad I just leave. Let the squad have them, I have zero **** to give.

No offense but I'm glad my server didn't merge with you guys. Sounds like a scary place

oreowarrior

eirghan wrote: »

koudelkamorgan wrote: »

To be honest, I've already blacklisted half of HT and I'm well on my way to blacklisting half of Arch too.........I already have a separate list of people that repeatedly and with no provocation drop squad to kill people, or want chi and then jump in the lava while holding you for lols because they can tick your charm or whatever. When they show up, even if I'm at Toad I just leave. Let the squad have them, I have zero **** to give.

No offense but I'm glad my server didn't merge with you guys. Sounds like a scary place

only atm, because neither side(excluding a few people who dont give a ****) has found the equilibrium yet. People are still in the "you(ht) merged into our server(archo)" stage. In a month or so, people will settle down and find the middle ground that will be "FSP will be Free till after toad, and EOO will be sold"
It wouldnt surprise me if a bit of this is going on at all the servers.

malllliii

Oki after seeing all the arguements in WC and pk fights in west and sp, i said to myself "it cant be that bad". So i was making bh tt squad for me and wife. I used world chat to find 2 more persons and decided to pick new names. After i open the tt the bm said "hey bro, can i borrow your g16 +10 ring?" (by now everyone knows who im talking about lol) so i said no and began pulling the boss. All of a sudden he left squad and began pking a squad member -.- . Even tho that was a bad experience i still look forward to play with ht players.

cynderangel

yugi2390 wrote: »

cynderangel wrote: »

What I'm getting out of a lot of these posts is that doing something different makes you wrong, stupid, or a noob. I hope people get over it. Discuss how you'll do the split before you run, and there shouldn't be any drama at the end of the run.

As far as the axes thing on toad, players on Archo server have been discouraged from trying anything new in the past by players who don't want to give them a chance to learn. If an HT player can't take 5 seconds to tell someone who has never done axes what to look for, stay in your elitist bubble and be just as bad as the Archo players who told me that I'm a cleric, so I shouldn't learn axes.

wow that's a horrible thing to say to a cleric, but on HT we did teach people if they had never done it but most of the time they kept silent and didn't tell anyone they didn't do it.

I know, right? I always wanted to learn (really figured it wouldn't be hard) but most people told me I shouldn't. I figured it would be nice to leave my tanks and dd's with nothing else to worry about.

As for silent people, I have found that a lot of people are too afraid to admit they are new or don't understand the dungeon mechanics. Maybe you've never noticed it somehow, but players are mean. Some will kick new people from squad to save themselves a few minutes of explaining. Or they'll just plow ahead, demolish the dungeon, and leave the new player with no real idea of the do's and don't's. I have an anxiety disorder that I can't get past, even in a silly game, so to avoid the extreme critism some players are prone to dealing out, I eased myself into every dungeon. I read about them, I check them out alone, and I always let the squad know that I'm new. Not everyone handles it my way.

When I get a squad with players who don't say it's their first time, but it's clear they don't know what they're doing, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they're nervous; maybe they were there before but didn't properly learn it; maybe they're older and don't have very good reaction times (I know a lady in her 70s in this game) maybe they have bad reading skills and grammar; maybe they just don't speak English. Until they prove to me otherwise, I will assume they just need help learning, and I will make it happen if at all possible. This doesn't mean I won't have to kick them; it just means I have to try to help them first. Oddly enough, I haven't found someone unteachable yet.

heerohex#3018

Yer the FSP n WS(FW) was amusing. Was shocked at Servers doing things so different!

everyone that has said anything to me ive told to "GET OVER IT"

It will work its self out in a few days / Weeks.

WC has been mental and ive also turned off WC from Faction n Squad Channels.

But so far VERY positive on the server! (Well apart from the above.)

O and only BL 2 people!

keihan007#7641

Honestly, Archo ways are simply more logical for PvE. I usually did axes on Archo when I wasnt tanking so I am pretty solid on them. The main thing with designated axer, if they are decent that is, the shield drops basically instantly and reliably. This results into no heals on boss. With alts in squad the random axes are bit annoying as monitoring multiple toons, specially if you are tanking, requires fair bit of attention. Usually with random axes boss heals once or twice by my experience with such squads. With OP players that nbd but with weaker Dd squads that major time saver.

As for random EoO. Its basic sense. Catshops buying will never buy at market value, they want to make a profit, simple as that. So if you needed EoO and did 6 runs, you would not have enough coins from EoO splits to buy one. By selling the EoO squads are donating part of their profits to a merchant, which seems a bit silly. Of course, for people who sell the EoOs anyways it makes no difference. ​​

eirghan

oreowarrior wrote: »

eirghan wrote: »

koudelkamorgan wrote: »

To be honest, I've already blacklisted half of HT and I'm well on my way to blacklisting half of Arch too.........I already have a separate list of people that repeatedly and with no provocation drop squad to kill people, or want chi and then jump in the lava while holding you for lols because they can tick your charm or whatever. When they show up, even if I'm at Toad I just leave. Let the squad have them, I have zero **** to give.

No offense but I'm glad my server didn't merge with you guys. Sounds like a scary place

only atm, because neither side(excluding a few people who dont give a ****) has found the equilibrium yet. People are still in the "you(ht) merged into our server(archo)" stage. In a month or so, people will settle down and find the middle ground that will be "FSP will be Free till after toad, and EOO will be sold"
It wouldnt surprise me if a bit of this is going on at all the servers.

yep for sure, there is a power struggle on all servers and tons of trash talking. But no one has carried me into a pool of lava.

Yet.

cynderangel

saxroll wrote: »

As for random EoO. Its basic sense. Catshops buying will never buy at market value, they want to make a profit, simple as that. So if you needed EoO and did 6 runs, you would not have enough coins from EoO splits to buy one. By selling the EoO squads are donating part of their profits to a merchant, which seems a bit silly. Of course, for people who sell the EoOs anyways it makes no difference. ​​

That was my thought about selling to a catshop too. I'd rather a squad member (who might potentially need it, give it to a friend or guildie, or sell it cheaper than merchants) get it than fatten the pockets of a merchant. I was always happy for the person who got the EoO, and I got my fair share too.

vertgod

What really got me was why etherblade people originally from HT were making such a huge deal about minor things. And seriously bashing an entire server. Sure, etherblade people previously from Arch were doing some of that as well but from the WC I saw (I was on from around the time the servers came up till the evening) etherblade people originally from HT were being over the top rude. I am not so stupid as to think there wouldn't be a pissing contest after the merge but I got seriously turned off to etherblade people originally from HT in general because of the abrasiveness that was unwarranted and unnecessary.

Thankfully the second day has been much more calm. There were a few outbursts but nothing I felt the need to blacklist for and I removed all the people I added the day before to test the waters, I didn't have to re-add them. I'm pretty sure with a little time everyone will relax, put their epeen away, and things will be fine.

Also, I got the chance to run a random FSP with a mixture of originally Arch and HT people. I've done axes before so it wasn't really a big deal to me but there were some in squad that hadn't. We had a great barb originally from HT in squad who understood that some of the others hadn't done it and helped them with their timing. Aside from just a few mistimed throws it went really smooth and Toad was dead in a couple mins. I wish I could remember the barbs name, his patience and understanding redeemed originally HT people in my eyes.

I am not going to go into a lengthy explanation as to why setting squads to free for FSP was the best decision on Arch. I am sure people have already heard different reasons, but it's what worked the best for us and that's what we did. As for the way Arch splits drops in Warsong; I equate it to dubbed vs subbed arguments. If the first version of a foreign movie you watch is subbed with original language voices, then the dubbed version just doesn't sound right to you despite how much anyone tries to convince you it's better and vice-verse. In other words, pleading your case to the other party is nothing more than futility.

Overall I am happy with the merge. There is so much activity on the server now, it's a welcomed change. I love seeing new names and faces. The only complaint I have is the cluster funk of shops in west. I don't really have lag issues it's just so hard to sift through them all to find a shop that's selling what I want cause they're so piled on top of each other. I think it would be great if they didn't allow catshops on the main maps. Instead created an instance you could jump to, like they did with celestial vale when it was first introduced, that would have all the important NPCs where people could set their shops up with designated spaces. One can dream.

barber

I think we all just need a big group hug and some sloppy wet kisses to get the juices flowing so we all can have that warm fuzzy tingling feeling all over

Deceptistar

I feel like our server was swarmed with children with plastic bats, goading adults to come fight them during work times.
And we look at them ಠ_ಠ and say no its ME time.​​