Please rethink the next log-in event
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http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/pwi/news/detail/9451343-midsummer-crazy-collection
For the love of god, do not go around giving out 9m coin per character. The massive amount of inflation that will cause will be ridiculous. Give out a plat charm or something. Not coin.
For the love of god, do not go around giving out 9m coin per character. The massive amount of inflation that will cause will be ridiculous. Give out a plat charm or something. Not coin.
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Absolutely agree. There are lots of people still with dozens of high level accounts from that pill giveaway. Giving them 9m coins per character for doing nothing will be terrible for the game. The rewards are supposed to be bound to the character but a surge of billions of coins would wreck the economy.
I thought things were going to be fix when they took the announcement down an hour ago but it looks the same. Hopefully this is a mistake, I think @yetweallfalldown is looking into it.0 -
This looks horrible but to top it off the other event they will be having with it is ALREADY broken....they are having us use the same sparkling treasure trove from the event earlier this year and the new one they gave us via a code still has the same number of available exchanges as it did before they expired. http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1195230/sparkling-treasure-trove
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Getting Lv50 alone is terrible easily to get. I would be able to level up quite an amount of characters before event starts. Even if the requirement was Lv100+, I would be able to get 180mil coins - and I'm far from the one having the most Lv100+ alts. I really hope this not going to happen, it will be very bad for PWI.0
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certain russians will earn more than a billion from this. clientless farmbots for jolly quest gg wp.
also, we will see some nuema portal sets after this "event"
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Economy is already inflated enough, this is bad giving 9mil to all 50+. If you just ,like me, have all class that's 108 mil.
There is already a ton of coin in-game (thanks to years of botters/auto-culti) and no real viable money sink.
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need....to....LV.....my.....alts.......to 50+
anyway...please lower down the spending golds for dragon orb ocean.....75 golds like usual...why make it up to 100 golds....0 -
Agree on this, also some ''genius'' at my server already began to panic, this person got all the gold on Auction (and it was not just a few golds) O_O
So just like OP stated, I would not give 9 millions to all the freaking server or this game will end up really bad.
Im sure that there are already a lot of troll leveling toons to 50+....
Funny how PWE refused to give a single bounded S card, yet they have no problem to inject billions of coins to the ingame economy.
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agree x1000000 was going to make my own post. As much as I have tons of characters to benefit from this, i dont want to see things triple in price on my server. It will take forever for market to recover.
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I like money and don't mind easy obtainable stuff, and could benefit from this giveaway, but for real, this time they went too far
Whoever is responsible for it, please rethink and cancel or replace 5 days reward before it's too late lol 
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Just from the profunduity scrolls alone from past events, sitting in my storage alts mailboxes I make any toon lvl 50 instantly. There's some people who will literally have 100+ toons to do this event on. Definitely reconsider this, this would be worse than any accidental promo/code mess up we've had in the past. There's been far too many cheap sales lately and giveaways, the economies were finally going back to reasonable level, now charms are worthless, AH's are running out of gold and only a matter of time until we're back at 4m stacks of thousands of gold. Listen to the players on this one please, control the sales, control the promos. Free things are nice, but the game isn't sustainable with this influx of giveaways.0
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...you guys are trolling right...? 9 mil per char is going to break the game , YOU GUYS ARE TROLLING RIGHT?? OR have you not seen the traveling couple packs in game? I don't know how it is on other servers but token prices are below 10 ea on lost city, so guess what's the best thing to do with them? That's right, npc them for 10k each. A single player alone can open hundreds of packs a day, ignoring best lucks ( another 5 mil of coin added per one pulled) that's 150 K coin added PER PACK. THOUSANDS of them are opened EACH DAY.
Maybe you're thinking "o but not everyone knows you can npc them or are too lazy to do it" true BUT everyone doesn't need to know, just need a few ppl who come along and buy every token on the market under 10k every few hours. Then look, a few hundred million coin has been added to the game. If you think a measly one time only 9 mil note given to only chars above 50 who log into game is go in g to "break the economy" apposed to a cheap pack that produces at LESS 150 K coin per pack opened that lasts for 2 weeks, you're delusional.full +12 SB, currently lv 105 105 1050 -
demansfairy wrote: »...you guys are trolling right...? 9 mil per char is going to break the game , YOU GUYS ARE TROLLING RIGHT?? OR have you not seen the traveling couple packs in game? I don't know how it is on other servers but token prices are below 10 ea on lost city, so guess what's the best thing to do with them? That's right, npc them for 10k each. A single player alone can open hundreds of packs a day, ignoring best lucks ( another 5 mil of coin added per one pulled) that's 150 K coin added PER PACK. THOUSANDS of them are opened EACH DAY.
Maybe you're thinking "o but not everyone knows you can npc them or are too lazy to do it" true BUT everyone doesn't need to know, just need a few ppl who come along and buy every token on the market under 10k every few hours. Then look, a few hundred million coin has been added to the game. If you think a measly one time only 9 mil note given to only chars above 50 who log into game is go in g to "break the economy" apposed to a cheap pack that produces at LESS 150 K coin per pack opened that lasts for 2 weeks, you're delusional.
Let's see, I buy the tokens in the shop for 9,950 coins, sell it to NPC for 10,000. That generate 50 coins per token, curtesy of cash shoppers. I'll need....profit of 180,000 tokens to make up for $9 mil! Get your kindergarten Maths out of here!
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demansfairy wrote: »...you guys are trolling right...? 9 mil per char is going to break the game , YOU GUYS ARE TROLLING RIGHT?? OR have you not seen the traveling couple packs in game? I don't know how it is on other servers but token prices are below 10 ea on lost city, so guess what's the best thing to do with them? That's right, npc them for 10k each. A single player alone can open hundreds of packs a day, ignoring best lucks ( another 5 mil of coin added per one pulled) that's 150 K coin added PER PACK. THOUSANDS of them are opened EACH DAY.
Maybe you're thinking "o but not everyone knows you can npc them or are too lazy to do it" true BUT everyone doesn't need to know, just need a few ppl who come along and buy every token on the market under 10k every few hours. Then look, a few hundred million coin has been added to the game. If you think a measly one time only 9 mil note given to only chars above 50 who log into game is go in g to "break the economy" apposed to a cheap pack that produces at LESS 150 K coin per pack opened that lasts for 2 weeks, you're delusional.
Let's see, I buy the tokens in the shop for 9,950 coins, sell it to NPC for 10,000. That generate 50 coins per token, curtesy of cash shoppers. I'll need....profit of 180,000 tokens to make up for $9 mil! Get your kindergarten Maths out of here!
....thats 50 coins PROFIT you're still ADDING 10k coins into the server that wasn't there before, the 9.95 k coin you paid the cat shop didn't dissapear, it's still there. BUT now there another 10k coin generated because the npc paid you, not another player, see how that works?full +12 SB, currently lv 105 105 1050 -
demansfairy wrote: »...you guys are trolling right...? 9 mil per char is going to break the game , YOU GUYS ARE TROLLING RIGHT?? OR have you not seen the traveling couple packs in game? I don't know how it is on other servers but token prices are below 10 ea on lost city, so guess what's the best thing to do with them? That's right, npc them for 10k each. A single player alone can open hundreds of packs a day, ignoring best lucks ( another 5 mil of coin added per one pulled) that's 150 K coin added PER PACK. THOUSANDS of them are opened EACH DAY.
Maybe you're thinking "o but not everyone knows you can npc them or are too lazy to do it" true BUT everyone doesn't need to know, just need a few ppl who come along and buy every token on the market under 10k every few hours. Then look, a few hundred million coin has been added to the game. If you think a measly one time only 9 mil note given to only chars above 50 who log into game is go in g to "break the economy" apposed to a cheap pack that produces at LESS 150 K coin per pack opened that lasts for 2 weeks, you're delusional.
Let's see, I buy the tokens in the shop for 9,950 coins, sell it to NPC for 10,000. That generate 50 coins per token, curtesy of cash shoppers. I'll need....profit of 180,000 tokens to make up for $9 mil! Get your kindergarten Maths out of here!
Yeah see the point is ingame coin continues to rise out of control, there is no "money sink" the person you quoted is talking about CS item so, so what? Forgot to mention in my last post adding to the two things I said, add on BH1 cards and JJ claim/quest.
Regardless of what I just said PWI really or almost any FTP does care about ingame currency inflation.
But they should, if CS currency is affordable more people will buy/sell. The whole basis of fixing this is: Something useful to buy with ingame currency.
When event hits all players with all class (at least) inject 108mil at least into the already inflated economy.
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That's not how it works, the basis of trade here is gold. You discounted the sharp increase in gold prices in AH. The drop in prices of pack generated goods is offset by the increase in the gold price, or anything that can only be bought with gold, such as pigment, GST, and rep badges.
However, if PWI randomly decided to artificially inject $9mil per character over level 50, price of EVERYTHING will skyrocket. See how that works?0 -
I was actually happy seeing the coin in there sense im broke pretty much on all my toons *hides*
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That's not how it works, the basis of trade here is gold. You discounted the sharp increase in gold prices in AH. The drop in prices of pack generated goods is offset by the increase in the gold price, or anything that can only be bought with gold, such as pigment, GST, and rep badges.
However, if PWI randomly decided to artificially inject $9mil per character over level 50, price of EVERYTHING will skyrocket. See how that works?
Still doesn't compare to how much coin is being added via npcing tokens from the on sale packs ( unless your token prices on your server are still really high). For lost city thougj, this promo gonna be a drop in the buket, especially with the spend promo starting in a few hours which will ppl buy even more packs than usual...full +12 SB, currently lv 105 105 1050 -
well look like they are not replacing the prize....damn i should have made 100 toons from the pills.......0
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I was actually happy seeing the coin in there sense im broke pretty much on all my toons *hides*
Yeah me too but it's not about what is good or right for you or me, myself I was speaking of the game not you or me.That's not how it works, the basis of trade here is gold. You discounted the sharp increase in gold prices in AH. The drop in prices of pack generated goods is offset by the increase in the gold price, or anything that can only be bought with gold, such as pigment, GST, and rep badges.
However, if PWI randomly decided to artificially inject $9mil per character over level 50, price of EVERYTHING will skyrocket. See how that works?
You posting on a alt account, if so why? Are you drunk? I' am not but there is that post nuke thing that happened. This make no sense so maybe PWI should hire you, or any FTP publisher for that matter. I did try and understand all that but you have a strange way of texting. Your attitude and your opinion is inline with the actions of FTP publishers I've seen first hand for years and years. Did you even understand my last two posts at all?
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OP you deserve a medal for writing this thread and I am glad that people that comment here agree with it.
This may cause (even if it will be for a short amount of time cause people will spend the money eventually or better say atleast I hope it will be for a short amount of time), what auticultivation did before the nerf of items.
Now correct me if I am wrong:
Log in for 5 days to get 10 tokens and yu receive 9mil in exchange.
The event last from 15 to 30 so there are 15 days that means 30 tokens=27milions per toon.
People with 2 acounts that have 16 toons will make at the end of this 432 milion coins in total.
But wait there are people with 3 acounts, people with 4 acounts, people with....holy....
Yep prices of gold and everything will go in high.
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bloodedone87 wrote: »OP you deserve a medal for writing this thread and I am glad that people that comment here agree with it.
This may cause (even if it will be for a short amount of time cause people will spend the money eventually or better say atleast I hope it will be for a short amount of time), what auticultivation did before the nerf of items.
Now correct me if I am wrong:
Log in for 5 days to get 10 tokens and yu receive 9mil in exchange.
The event last from 15 to 30 so there are 15 days that means 30 tokens=27milions per toon.
People with 2 acounts that have 16 toons will make at the end of this 432 milion coins in total.
But wait there are people with 3 acounts, people with 4 acounts, people with....holy....
Yep prices of gold and everything will go in high.
I believe you can only be awarded once of each tier per character?
"Login rewards can only be redeemed once per character. A character can only earn 1x T1, 1x T2, 1x T3 etc."0 -
bloodedone87 wrote: »OP you deserve a medal for writing this thread and I am glad that people that comment here agree with it.
This may cause (even if it will be for a short amount of time cause people will spend the money eventually or better say atleast I hope it will be for a short amount of time), what auticultivation did before the nerf of items.
Now correct me if I am wrong:
Log in for 5 days to get 10 tokens and yu receive 9mil in exchange.
The event last from 15 to 30 so there are 15 days that means 30 tokens=27milions per toon.
People with 2 acounts that have 16 toons will make at the end of this 432 milion coins in total.
But wait there are people with 3 acounts, people with 4 acounts, people with....holy....
Yep prices of gold and everything will go in high.
I believe you can only be awarded once of each tier per character?
"Login rewards can only be redeemed once per character. A character can only earn 1x T1, 1x T2, 1x T3 etc."
Yeah, you can only get each tier once per character, logging in 15 days doesn't get you 3 x tier 1 or whatever.
Only thing I can do is shrug about the coin handed out, nowadays it's nothing but pocket change anyway.
Let's be honest, what will actually change on the servers if this 9m per character is kept in place? Really, what changes, at all? Gold prices go up? They have been **** for more than a year now. Event item prices go up? For a few days if anything, not like people have a high demand for anything specific lately anyway. At least not on dreamweaver anyway.
I can't see this having so much impact on the servers to be honest.
Might not have been the best choice of reward, I agree on that. But still in my opinion it won't really change anything that will have any lasting impact.
The real question is;
They say it's a US big note, will they convert currency for the EU servers and **** them over with less coin reward?
p.s.: that question was sarcastic.
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ironknight wrote: »I was actually happy seeing the coin in there sense im broke pretty much on all my toons *hides*
Yeah me too but it's not about what is good or right for you or me, myself I was speaking of the game not you or me.That's not how it works, the basis of trade here is gold. You discounted the sharp increase in gold prices in AH. The drop in prices of pack generated goods is offset by the increase in the gold price, or anything that can only be bought with gold, such as pigment, GST, and rep badges.
However, if PWI randomly decided to artificially inject $9mil per character over level 50, price of EVERYTHING will skyrocket. See how that works?
You posting on a alt account, if so why? Are you drunk? I' am not but there is that post nuke thing that happened. This make no sense so maybe PWI should hire you, or any FTP publisher for that matter. I did try and understand all that but you have a strange way of texting. Your attitude and your opinion is inline with the actions of FTP publishers I've seen first hand for years and years. Did you even understand my last two posts at all?
Awww, did sonny have a bad experience with FTP publishers? I did use an alt, does that offend u? Why am i smiling when i am typing this?
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demainsfairy, go home. you act like those travelling couple packs were free and the gold wasnt bought with coins.
also, you guys seem to underestimate the amount of chars that some of us have, we are talking about more than a hundred, or in some cases "hundreds".
make it event gold please.0 -
eventgold would be nice at some point, true that, given they removed it from spend rewards
anyway, personally im happy about some reward thats actually not pure luck whether or not its useful (like b-s pack instead of the promised s chest for example)
i personally dont have as many chars as some ppl apparently do, but hey
i bet most ppl in here r just crying cos they were too lazy to lv alts
even if theres ppl with as many chars as mentioned, which i highly doubt tbh, whats the diff to zentrading? noone is complaining about that either
and to most ppl on our server it doesnt matter how much they have to spend to get what they want
imo its like the orb glitch a while ago
theres only a few who hardcoreglitched it and the others had to deal with that too
an avg person got something around 10chars nowadays
so lets round up and say 100m per person, so what?
and theres a cap to gold, so the price cant explode either
me for my part, im just happy that we eventually get something good, thanks pwi!0 -
Will be happy with the coins, just because of the repaircosts when soloing instances for my friends and factionmembers. Also, many people (according to what I've read so far) don't want it so they won't check-in every day. Catshop prices will go up so our famous bots (why aren't they removed yet?) can finally make some profit by buying/selling.
Start flaming
Edit (for question below): it's not about the amount you get, it's about the amount people can get from you if you're willing to buy. But okay, to see it as '30 bucks' think of this: if you give money to someone who doesn't have any, he or she will use it. To say/write very simple: money is for trading only. Now think of this: he or she wants to buy something from you (like a car, camel or whatever you're selling). Since you're selling AND you know what amount of coins you have given, your sellingprice should go up giving you more profit. Luckely for us we don't talk about real money in PWI but 'virtual' coins. People who are willing to buy should be spending more time to find the item they want at the cheapest price. Here the bots come in.Post edited by sjampie on0 -
tbh i dont see why catshop prices would go up just because ppl get an avg of 100m-ish
thats like what, 30bucks?0 -
eventgold would be nice at some point, true that, given they removed it from spend rewards
anyway, personally im happy about some reward thats actually not pure luck whether or not its useful (like b-s pack instead of the promised s chest for example)
i personally dont have as many chars as some ppl apparently do, but hey
i bet most ppl in here r just crying cos they were too lazy to lv alts
even if theres ppl with as many chars as mentioned, which i highly doubt tbh, whats the diff to zentrading? noone is complaining about that either
and to most ppl on our server it doesnt matter how much they have to spend to get what they want
imo its like the orb glitch a while ago
theres only a few who hardcoreglitched it and the others had to deal with that too
an avg person got something around 10chars nowadays
so lets round up and say 100m per person, so what?
and theres a cap to gold, so the price cant explode either
me for my part, im just happy that we eventually get something good, thanks pwi!
100mil/person would be disaterous for the game. Let's say only 500 people got 100 mil, that's 50 billion coins added to the economy in one day. Prices will skyrocket. And don't think gold will just hit cap, people will just sell outside of AH like before.
Take out that 9mil card now, the economy is slowly getting better. Don't destroy it again. Change it for 50 event gold instead, that would be much much better!0 -
Happy with the coin as well, it will be a nice injection of cash towards the lunar set i am working on for my SB. Its not going to break PWI, its been broken for a long long time and PWI cant win anyways, you guys whine if they dont give anything for free and you whine when they do.0
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