Official: M30 Mount AoE Target Standardization (and More!)

terramak · October 28

Hey there Adventurers!

Sorry I waited 'til after the weekend to post this, but the new module is now on the NeverwinterPreview (Mimic and Lurker) shards, and with it comes my first standardization pass on powers! I'd like to see what y'all think about it, and if you find any bugs in the process.

As always, everything on Preview is not necessarily final; it's subject to change. We look forward to your feedback!

Formatting Your Feedback and Bugs
For posting feedback and bugs, please follow the following format to ensure your feedback and bugs are seen clearly and processed in a timely manner, thank you!

Type: Bug/Feedback (Please only choose one)
If you are listing a bug please have this text in RED, if you are posting an opinion or feedback please use CYAN. If you are replying to another user's post, or just engaging in general discussion, please do not color your posts, general discussion is welcome and we will read all of it, regardless of color! You can use BBCode to color your text:
<font color=cyan>This text will display in cyan.</font>
<font color=red>This text will display in red.</font>

Fictional examples I borrowed from Nitocris83's M27 thread:
Feedback: Mimics breakdancing is visually distracting from the other fight mechanics.
Bug: Mimics breakdancing when the fight starts makes them get stuck in floor.

What actually changed?
For all of these, you can safely assume that the tooltip has been made consistent with current standard tooltip structure, including green text for values that change based on a player's Mount Bolster value, and using Total Magnitude instead of per-hit or per-tick magnitude for multi-hit powers. (If the tooltips look wrong, that's probably a bug!)

"Crit Avoid fix" is a fix to an issue where, if the power was set up in a certain way, it would incorrectly inherit the casting player's Critical Avoidance value and use it to reduce critical damage dealt by the power. Anything with a Crit Avoid Fix will basically be buffed.

All values listed below assume 100% Mount Bolster.

In the build NW.335.20241024a.0, which is on Preview as of the time of this post:

Mount Name	Power Name	Target Cap	Total Mag.	Crit Avoid fix?	Other Fixes
Arcane Whirlwind	Arcane Maelstrom	10 -> 15	333* -> 1000	N/A	Hit detection radius dropped to 12', down from 30' Fixed issue where hits would not consistently be detected. (Previously, 333mag was applied immediately and 667mag depended on this detection.) Removed Repel portion of power (kept Knockback portion). Unfixed: When the power reaches the target cap, the whirlwind will become stuck in place before it fades. Unfixed: When the whirlwind fades on top of knockback-immune enemies, the combat log shows it giving "0 knockback."
Beholder Personal Tank	Disintegration Beam	5 -> 15	1000	N/A	None
Black Ice Warhorse	Black Ice Storm	5 -> 15	1000	Yes	None
Black Unicorn	Dark Vortex	5 -> 15	600 -> 690	Yes	Damage type is now Necrotic instead of untyped; now benefits from Magical Damage Boost. Another buff coming in a later build
Omen of Despair	Vortex of Despair	8 -> 15	600 -> 690	Yes	Damage type is now Necrotic instead of untyped; now benefits from Magical Damage Boost. Damage now properly looks at Omen of Despair rank instead of Black Unicorn rank. (Generally buff or neutral effect for most players.) Another buff coming in a later build
Brown Siege Bear	Cannon Siege Volley	5 -> 15	1150	Yes	Now consistently deals 10 volleys (previously did 9 despite animation/fx), increasing effective magnitude.
Polar Siege Bear	Arcane Siege Volley	5 -> 15	1150	Yes	Now consistently deals 10 volleys (previously did 9 despite animation/fx), increasing effective magnitude.
Celestial Stag	Call of the Stars	10 -> 15	920	Yes	Damage now properly looks at Celestial Stag rank instead of Cosmos Stag rank. (Generally buff or neutral effect for most players.) Range of the target indicator reduced to 15', from 20', to match actual effect radius. (Actual radius did not change.) Now deals Arcane damage instead of untyped damage; now benefits from Magical Damage Boost. No longer pops "0 movement speed" combat log entries for control-immune enemies.
Cosmos Stag	Call of the Cosmos	10 -> 15	920	Yes	Range of the target indicator reduced to 15', from 20', to match actual effect radius. (Actual radius did not change.) Now deals Arcane damage instead of untyped damage; now benefits from Magical Damage Boost. No longer pops "0 movement speed" combat log entries for control-immune enemies.
Feywild Stag	Call of the Heavens	10 -> 15	920	Yes	Now properly looks at Feywild Stag rank instead of Cosmos Stag rank. (Generally buff or neutral effect for most players.) Range of the target indicator reduced to 15', from 20', to match actual effect radius. (Actual radius did not change.) Damage now deals Arcane damage instead of untyped damage; now benefits from Magical Damage Boost. No longer pops "0 movement speed" combat log entries for control-immune enemies.
Celestial / Divine Wings	Divine Intervention	8 -> 15	1000	N/A	Changed from 80' length 80' radius cylinder (effectively 80'x160'!) in front of player to 30' radius sphere centered on player. No longer shows name pop-up when applying damage to enemies, only when applying Repel. Unfixed: Combat log shows "0 Repel" against repel-immune enemies.
Confetti Machination	Confetti Catastrophe	5 -> 15	800	Yes	None
Deadly Driderform	Lolth's Gift	15*	851.4 -> 920	N/A	Enemies and allies no longer compete for target cap; can hit 15 enemies AND 25 allies. Now consistently deals 12 ticks of damage, up from 11. Per-tick damage slightly reduced (77.4 -> 76.6 mag), but combined with above changes, power is buffed. Buff/debuff tooltips now have text.
Hag's Cauldron (Lgd)	Cauldron Gasses	15*	720 -> 690	Yes	Now consistently deals 10 ticks, up from 9. Enemies and allies no longer compete for target cap; can hit 15 enemies AND 25 allies. Tooltip was incorrect about per-tick damage (reported 115, was 80). Despite on-paper 4.17% nerf, the tick & CritAvoid changes probably buff this overall.
Hag's Cauldron (Myt)	Cauldron Fumes	15*	540 -> 690	Yes	Now consistently deals 10 ticks, up from 9. Enemies and allies no longer compete for target cap; can hit 15 enemies AND 25 allies. Tooltip was incorrect about per-tick damage (reported 115, was 60).
Infernal War Machine	Mow Down	10 -> 15	333* -> 1000	N/A	Hit detection radius dropped to 12', down from 30' Fixed issue where hits would not consistently be detected. (Previously, 333mag was applied immediately and 667mag depended on this detection.) Removed Repel portion of power (kept Knockback portion). Unfixed: When the power reaches the target cap, the war machine will become stuck in place before it fades. Unfixed: When the war machine fades on top of knockback-immune enemies, the combat log shows it giving "0 knockback." Note: These look like the Arcane Whirlwind notes because the power is constructed similarly.

terramak · October 28

Changes made, but not on Preview as of this post:

Mount Name	Power Name	Target Cap	Total Mag.	Crit Avoid fix?	Other Fixes
(Many)	Explosive Equalizer	8 -> 15	1000	N/A	Power name text no longer appears with damage pop-ups.
Armored Bulette	Ferocious Roar	5 -> 15	800	N/A	The debuff tooltip now has a brief description.
Balgora	Hell's Impact	5 -> 15	830 -> 865	Yes	Combat Log entry is now Hell's Impact instead of Hell's Flame. DoT now lasts 10 seconds, up from 6, and ticks 5 times, up from 4.
Legendary Barlgura	Meteoric Impact	5 -> 15	800	Yes	Combat Log entry is now Meteoric Impact instead of Fist Slam.
Black Unicorn / Omen of Despair	Dark Vortex / Vortex of Despair	15	690 -> 700	N/A	This power now applies a 10-second Damage Reduction debuff (7.5% at 100% Mount Bolster). See dev note below table for more.
Champion's Armored Bulette	Terrifying Roar	5 -> 15	800	N/A	The debuff tooltip now has a brief description.
Eclipse Lion	Eclipsed Armament	5 -> 15	600	N/A	None
Legendary Carpet of Flying	Vortex	8 -> 15	700 -> 800	N/A	None
Legendary / Marvelous Reconnaissance Balloons	Legendary / Marvelous Balloon Bombardment	5 -> 15	800 -> 920	Yes	Buffs provided by treasure pickups now grant 7.5% of a stat, up from 1.5%. (This is static and not affected by Mount Bolster.) Treasures can no longer be picked up by enemy players in PvP. Treasures no longer count as allies for effects like positional Combat Advantage. The float text when picking up a treasure is now light blue instead of red.
New Year's Dragonnel	Lunar Fireball	15	1365 -> 2750	N/A	Fixed an issue where ranking up the New Year's Dragonnel ranked up Tiger's Charge (New Year's Tiger mount) instead of Lunar Fireball. Fixed an issue that caused the power to deal half its intended damage, and a separate issue that caused the single-target portion to deal 1980 magnitude instead of 2000. As a result, it previously dealt 1365 magnitude total to a single target (and 375 to splash targets), and now deals 2750 (with 750 to splash targets).
Nightfire Dragonnel	Mystic Fireball	5 -> 15	907 -> 1060	Yes	DoT now consistently deals 4 ticks instead of 5, but the DoT magnitude buff (total 307 -> 460) still makes this a buff. The fiery ground FX no longer tend to reappear for a second after fading.
Space Guppy School	School's in Session	15	700	N/A	Just tooltip fixes here!

Dev note (Black Unicorn / Omen of Despair): After reviewing Legendary Carpet of Flying and Space Guppy School, it was clear that the Dark Vortex and Vortex of Despair were strictly worse than Vortex and School's in Session. Reviewing the other powers, Vortex type effects are now counted as 20% of a mount's budget, and another 10% was used for an in-flavor utility effect that makes these mechanically distinct from the carpet / guppies. That left 70% for damage, but because this power takes only 3 seconds to do its thing, the 15% DoT buff (which had taken it from 600 to 690 magnitude) was removed, so it ended up as a 10-magnitude damage buff.

There are more mounts I'd like to try to get to, but I don't want to promise what I haven't done yet!

terramak · October 29

Here are some more changes I've made in dev today, but are not on Preview yet as of build NW.335.20241024a.0!

Mount Name	Power Name	Target Cap	Total Mag.	Crit Avoid fix?	Other Fixes
Pegasus / Noble Pegasus	Grand Inspiration / Noble Inspiration	15*	1000	N/A	Target cap is now 15 enemies and 25 allies, instead of 15 total. Companions can now be affected by the buff (though it prioritizes players first). They get the DPS buff. Note: Allied NPCs are not affected by the buff. The buff tooltip now has text.
(Mossy, Volcanic) Flail Snail	(Mossy, Volcanic) Flail Snail	10 -> 15	1000	N/A	Mossy Flail Snail's damage now reads as Mossy Flail Snail instead of Flail Snail in the combat log.
Demon Wings	Shadowy Rush	8 -> 15	1000	N/A	This power's tooltip now explicitly includes its dodge functionality.
War Triceratops	Trample	8 -> 15	1000	Yes	This power's tooltip now explicitly includes its knockback functionality.
Umber Hulk	Sand Coffin	5 -> 15	287.5* -> 345	N/A	This power now consistently ticks 6 times, instead of usually dealing 5 ticks. (This caused its effective Magnitude to be 287.5 instead of its tooltip value of 345.) The movement speed debuff now consistently refreshes, instead of dropping off every other tick. The debuff no longer briefly shows 2 stacks with each tick.

terramak · October 30

And here's what I think is the final batch. Reminder, these are not on Preview yet as of build NW.335.20241024a.0!

Mount Name	Power Name	Target Cap	Total Mag.	Crit Avoid fix?	Other Fixes
Skeletal / Hellfire Steed	Rush of Despair / Torment	5 -> 15	800 -> 920	N/A	These powers have a cylindrical hitbox; it's been changed to always be horizontal, instead of sometimes tilting down. This should make hitting enemies more consistent in level combat areas, but generally won't hit enemies significantly above or below the player. Debuff tooltip text has been added. Unfixed: These powers fire their FX relative to the player character's facing, but actual hitbox is relative to camera facing.
Frost Giantess	Frozen Stamp	5 -> 15	800	Yes	Debuff icon no longer placeholder, now has text. Combat log entry is now Frozen Stamp instead of Fist Slam.
Lovely \| Emperor Beetle	Lovely / Imperious Stomp	5 -> 15	800	Yes	Stun debuffs now have tooltip text. Combat log entry for Lovely Stomp is now correct, instead of being named Imperious Stomp. Lovely Stomp no longer shows a Lovely Emperor Beetle spawning in for each enemy it hits.
Imperial Rage Drake	Path of Fire	5 -> 15	1000	N/A	None
New Year's Rabbit	Rabbit Hole	5 -> 15	800	N/A	Damage type is now Physical instead of Radiant. (Now uses Physical Damage Boost instead of Magical Damage Boost.) Tooltip now shows knockback behavior and distance.
New Year's Tiger	Tiger's Charge	5 -> 15	1000	N/A	None
Runeclad Manticore	Rain of Spines	5 -> 15	800	N/A	Power now actually knocks enemies down instead of pushing them. Knockdown duration now a flat 3 seconds instead of scaling based on Mount Bolster.
Teal \| Armored Axe Beak	Spinning Axe Strike \| (Teal)	5 -> 15	1000	N/A	None
Myconid Bulette	Spore Explosion	5 -> 15	750	N/A	None
Armored Giant Strider	Strider Fire	5 -> 15	1000	N/A	Power now requires a target to cast, instead of creating a wide cylinder, prioritizing a targeted enemy if there was one, then centering the AoE on either the targeted enemy or a random one if there wasn't one.
Empowered \| Dragonbone Golem	Empowered \| Dragonbone Whirl	1*	3450	Yes	Now ticks 10 times, down from 11, to match the tooltip total magnitude. Ideally, the Crit Avoidance fix still makes it an overall buff. Still hits 1 random target in range with each tick.
Hellfire Engine	Hell on Faerûn	1	1050 -> 3225	N/A	The text and damage calculations have been updated to reflect this power's single-target nature.
Barded Neverwintan lion	Neverwinter Armament	5 -> 15	N/A	N/A	Combat Advantage effect now properly affects control-immune enemies. Knockdown duration in tooltip fixed; was 10, is now 1.
Uni the Unicorn	Uni's Aura	20 -> 25	2250	N/A	None
Armored / Feywild / Golden Armored Griffon	Piercing / Resonating / Harrowing Screech	5 -> 15	N/A	N/A	Harrowing Screech now properly applies its Damage Dealt debuff to all affected targets.
Legendary Adolescent Deep Crow	Deep Crow Shriek	5 -> 15	N/A	N/A	This power's radius is now 15', up from 10'.
Neverwinter's Hand	Protector's Hand	5 -> 25	N/A	N/A	This power now affects all allies, not just party members. Players prioritized first.
Giant Space Hamster	Hamstphere	15 -> 25	N/A	N/A	None
Swift Golden Lion	Aureal Armament	5 -> 15	N/A	N/A	In addition to the 5 -> 15 target cap, 15 -> 25 allies are now affected. Shield now affects all allies, not just party members. Players prioritized first.

Thanks for bearing with me! I hope most (or all) of these changes are welcome. While I'm certain there are some mount powers I've missed, this is hopefully a big stride toward standardizing the max targets for AoE mount powers.

Official: M30 Mount AoE Target Standardization (and More!)

Comments