nah i dont think my build is clunky, i do effectively in both pvp and pve. i dont wanna spill all my secrets tho lol. i wasnt saying get both i was just telling you where each feat wud be helpful. everyone is entitled to their own build.
Both are good, but powerful challenge is situational at best. daring shout in a solo environment wont last long at all cause they are focusing you. but when your in a dungeon and a GF is using his mark, well thats 15% more dmg right there. so its good in a group setting, i have 5 pts in this. Disciple of War is a lil bit…