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dragon heralds still way too much.
wylonus
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today, i just witnessed an epic fail, with 10 mins and many were at green dragon, and we failed to kill, we had 15-20 players, by the end of 10 mins, dragon had 35-40% remaining health.
what going on here? since mod 6 made it a nightmare, and we had at least killed 4-5 dragons, some other servers had some jumpers to get 6th kills.
i just got back from vacation, and was shocked, did those dragons got beefed up even more than intended or was suppose to tone down due to lags, and some spells nerfed?
devs you need to bring back mod 5 format.
champgain was all about solo quests and able to join some HE events if desired, so the players can work on boons.
mod 6 is the biggest flaw.
many players are having hard choices, to give up playing and go on other games, or sit out as inactive in hoping to be fixed.
now, players cant do the champgain, then they cant get boons in order to survive the dungeon runs to get next tier armor upgrades, then some cant even play.
NWO are getting lot of nasty names calling jokes, they said it is not Neverwinter, it is now Neverending Grinder, Neverplay Again, or "Neverlistening", and some said it is no longer as RPG and it became as Refining Point Grinder. these are few examples.
the game was meant to be fun, not as frustrations, folks need relief from RL grind and they dont want a "2nd job" game.
if other players are demanding harder game, it will drive away some other players, you devs need to balace the contents, you need to create extreme "hardcore zone" copies of standard dungeon zones if they want more challenges.
right now, my other alts still cant get any boons, it is a serious major roadblock to character's progressions, no boons or any zone currencies that need for newer armors, all seem out of reach, and they quit.
it is not the players fault, this mod 6 shouldnt be released as raw, unfinished, broken damage factors, as leveling up become more nightmare than becoming stronger, but it feel so backward.
we need to be able to kill dragons, now i see more failures as it become unkillable within 10 minutes.
what going on here? since mod 6 made it a nightmare, and we had at least killed 4-5 dragons, some other servers had some jumpers to get 6th kills.
i just got back from vacation, and was shocked, did those dragons got beefed up even more than intended or was suppose to tone down due to lags, and some spells nerfed?
devs you need to bring back mod 5 format.
champgain was all about solo quests and able to join some HE events if desired, so the players can work on boons.
mod 6 is the biggest flaw.
many players are having hard choices, to give up playing and go on other games, or sit out as inactive in hoping to be fixed.
now, players cant do the champgain, then they cant get boons in order to survive the dungeon runs to get next tier armor upgrades, then some cant even play.
NWO are getting lot of nasty names calling jokes, they said it is not Neverwinter, it is now Neverending Grinder, Neverplay Again, or "Neverlistening", and some said it is no longer as RPG and it became as Refining Point Grinder. these are few examples.
the game was meant to be fun, not as frustrations, folks need relief from RL grind and they dont want a "2nd job" game.
if other players are demanding harder game, it will drive away some other players, you devs need to balace the contents, you need to create extreme "hardcore zone" copies of standard dungeon zones if they want more challenges.
right now, my other alts still cant get any boons, it is a serious major roadblock to character's progressions, no boons or any zone currencies that need for newer armors, all seem out of reach, and they quit.
it is not the players fault, this mod 6 shouldnt be released as raw, unfinished, broken damage factors, as leveling up become more nightmare than becoming stronger, but it feel so backward.
we need to be able to kill dragons, now i see more failures as it become unkillable within 10 minutes.
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I've done a lot of runs ending with the 5 heralds dead in 10 minutes.
So or you're talking about pre-mo6 runs or the all-frag-instance-fighting-the-dragons...
I haven't done one lately though, I guess big hitting whales are too busy farming IWD.
Go read some guide. If you can't kill a dragon in 10 mins with a group of 15-20, the problem is those 15-20
You might not get all five anymore.
Are u kiddin?? Kindergarden mod 5? Where every usual geared player made dungeons like CN solo? I hope we will never ever get a <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> mod like mod 5 again.
20 ppl cant kill 1 dragon? Can happen that you are in a grp with 20 ppl they are all bad.
This is reasonable. The group of 20 need to actually know how to buff and debuff in a group, and not just be a bunch of schmucks using bad builds.
See... in M5, a bunch of schmucks using bad builds could still slaughter the Heralds.
As some have implied, Herald-farming has dropped in popularity because people are RP-farming in IWD.
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+1.
The Dragon Heralds was a popular farming ground. I was doing 5 dragons (and sometime 4, minimum 3 for a bad run). Yes, it is mod 6.
Now, I go to IWD for farming because it is more efficient. I don't really to wait for an hour, don't really monitor the chat to find instance, etc.
Surely you mean white?
However, it might not have been 15-20 bad people, might have been a laggy instance where the dmg dealt simply didn't register. I have had plenty of those.
It takes about 30 to get any traction on the dragon heralds these days. Certainly to do more than 1. It takes almost the full 40 to get all 5.
I've done 8 in Mod 6 - it requires a good group and everyone knowing what they are doing. 15-20 people might not be able to get 5, but should be able to take down at least 3 unless they are all newly level 70 or they aren't yet 70 (and have been scaled up).
Don't switch to the most populated instance. There might be a lot of people not intending to do Dragon Heralds. Rather, around :30 every hour there should be some people calling for "#x green fresh". Switch to instance x and start from GREEN instead of white now you get a better chance of a better group.
^^This. I'm a very average player and following this recipe I get 5 dragons most times. Something has to go horribly wrong to get less than three.
anyway, these elite 73s are making one shots, there was like 15 elites and unkillable.
i can see why many went to IWD for gems farming until devs nerfed, then WoD seem to be back normal with many upgraded players and managed to kill 5 dragons, last kill was barely few seconds left.
often i see some zones did drop some numbers when a zone is 40, and some of players dont attend for heralds, just hogging at camps afk'ed, and forcing others seeking most "active" zone for herald runs few more times.
it is rare to see a full 40 going for heralds, some are lucky to get 35 players attending on some zones with few afks at camps.
revise herald dragon event runs.
change herald or add by npc for once a day, after fifth kill in same zone, players get 1 favor a day, if any players failed to complete and they have another chance to get 5th kill reward to have a favor.
any other non-quest herald runs can yeild any random rewards.
getting 50 favors is a long time for last 2 boons. devs should know this is just a game, and should help players to reach any amount of goals they needed or set up by them.
getting favors from tiamat seem to be non-exist and devs seem dont want to spend time to DO a Major overhauling horde of elite legion devils, to the players, it doesnt seem realistic and it is still unwinable.
+1. I participated many runs that got all 5. The minimum was at least 3 in a bad run. However, it was before IWD farming. The reward of the herald run is not great in comparison.
We go to IWD not because the WoD Herald run is tough. It is because it is not rewarding and have a time limit. Must be there at that time and .....
Killing 5 was 'normal' before we went for IWD farming.
Do I think they need to be nerfed? NFW...
Well, some of us just do not want to put hundreds of dollars into a game to buy the best of everything. I have been playing since Mod 2 and I have NEVER EVER been able to solo CN, not to mention I think I have only been successful a handful of times. Just because this was "EASY" for the few whale wallet warriors does NOT mean WE should be denied the chance to play at OUR level. GEEEZE
This has nothing to do with money. I have not paid a cent to this game. I don't have one item which is the best. I could not solo any real dungeon in any mod (unless I over-level it by a lot). You cannot finish the dragon by yourself. It is the group of people to go for the dragon run is not good enough. For example, if the group consists of mostly OP and DC, good luck killing a dragon fast.
Here are some tips to being on a good Herald run.
- Pay attention to Zone chat... there will be people discussing which instances to go to.
- They usually choose instances with very low population so more people can squeeze in. I have been able to preempt them by choosing to head to the least populated instance.
- It is also best to be there before :30. Because the first of the instances start filling at or around :24.
- If you get there early enough you may be able to help with another HE. One that has given me the Lostmauth Necklace.
- Unless there are close to 40 people in the instance... it is likely that you will not kill ALL of the dragons... if you can kill any.