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Elven Armor - A grind fest
relkindx
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I've got my Raid Armor set, I did eLOL about 10 times. I got the armor and arms to drop and bought the feet and head with seals. I then went back to IWD to gather all of the black ice I'd need to improve my forge and then improve my armor. Now I'm ready for the next level - Elven Armor. I haven't done eCC or eTOS or eGWD yet but in talking to a guildie he has done it once. He told me he got 2 seals for finishing itand 40 seals in the cache of the protector (which you can only get once a day). Anyways just so my math is clear. 1800 total seals (600 + 400 + 400 + 400) / 42 per day
The most efficient way to get all of the seals to buy all for pieces is for me to do the epic dungeons 43 times!
Is this the only way. At least for the raid armor, you could get some pieces as drops.
My favorite part of the story was that he pugged to get the group and that they only beat the last boss by bugging it. He wasn't quite sure what they did exactly, but they definitely didn't burn him down. Is it still the case that the only people beating these dungeons are either BIS or bugging. 43 times is bad enough, but do I even realistically have a chance at beating the dungeon legit, and do I really have to do it 43 times (each on a different day).
The most efficient way to get all of the seals to buy all for pieces is for me to do the epic dungeons 43 times!
Is this the only way. At least for the raid armor, you could get some pieces as drops.
My favorite part of the story was that he pugged to get the group and that they only beat the last boss by bugging it. He wasn't quite sure what they did exactly, but they definitely didn't burn him down. Is it still the case that the only people beating these dungeons are either BIS or bugging. 43 times is bad enough, but do I even realistically have a chance at beating the dungeon legit, and do I really have to do it 43 times (each on a different day).
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Nope. It's a grind.
that is just dumb, might as well add them to ardent rewards for like 150
The eCC, eGWD, and eTOS tool tips say a chance to earn level 132 gear. Is this an error? I don't know what the drop rate is, but I'd imagine that you can get two pieces to drop before you get enough seals to buy the other two. I haven't started yet on the elven set. But if I had to grind every seal for all four pieces, I won't do it. I'd rather spend my time doing the IWD HEs to level up the artifact equipment.
Yeah, it's discouraging.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
The 132 gear is the elemental armor, not the Elven armor.
Very sad
Urlord
*looks at elven armor, then looks at T1, then looks at this comment*
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I guess it depends on personal view point. Since majority of people consider even a 0.1% increase an improvement, I don't think the increase is negligible. But considering most of the wallet warriors, it might not add much for them.
Oh snap. Didn't realize this. Having to beat the dungeons 43 times is a bit much for me. And these dungeons are incredibly hard, probably most people will get the sets by doing 2/3 dungeon runs and getting the seals slowly that way. F-that. I'm not even going to bother with the T2. By the time I get the last piece, a new mod would make them obsolete. I'll just grind the IWD HEs then. I can at least make the 132 gear with all the black ice I get from them.
39 and change actually. The first post was in error. You get 2 tokens per boss.
Need ~940 seals for my last 2 pieces.. going to be a very long trip.
Is it worth it.. not really IMO, but there's not much else to do in game right now...
alliance raid armlets (blue t1):
8485 hp
509 crit
763 recovery
310 defense
total (hp /4 for fair comparison): 3903.25
elven assault armlets:
9520 hp
851 power
567 arpen
327 defense
Total: 4125
Difference 221.75 so I guess it's still something, but it's still only a 5.7% boost. I'd rather work on something more pemanent like enchantments and semi permanent artifacts.
To me, there's just little incentive to actually farm it up. The minor difference isn't going to make much of a difference in pve (especially with lower stat lines that need more into a stat to make a difference) and in pvp you want tenacity. If there were more rewards for dungeons like there used to be, then sure.
The thing is that I've never been compelled to upgrade armour. A few stat bonuses never made up for the better set bonuses of high vizier, and now a few stat bonuses doesn't really compel me to upgrade purely for that when I know I can just wait until next module and get something that is likely better anyway. That's what the re-release of artifact equipment has done to me.
If I continued to enjoy the game, I'd be doing IWD more right now. Instead I've got 1 more day worth of sharandar dailies on my paladin and I'm practically done with anything I want (used lightly) to do and there's really not much else that is worth doing apart from the stated IWD. And that's if they don't ruin it by nerfing it which I'm sceptical about considering how they've nerfed and restricted so much else.
And, I think is sweet that finally some people have gotten to the point where they burst out with their anger. Yes, the grind is horrible. I'll maybe start that when and if the next mod doesn't make all that gear obsolete again.
Helm, gloves, boots. The armor itself is 600 protector seals... sighs.. and after killing that sweet ToS queen so many times without it droping i lost any hope of finishing that set..
Unless i improve my black ice thingy to lv 5.. and get 200k black ice..
So yes it is all about the grinding lately. I am giving up on t2.
Doing it for 3 h a run is not worth it..
T2 elven armor (iLvl 135) is not dropable.
T1.5 elemental (iLvl132) is, I've seen it severall times in the chest at the end of eCC.
Black Ice won't get you any iLvl 135 stuff, it only upgrades 130 to 132 at lvl 4 and 135 to 137 at lvl 5.
Then correction is in order. XD Not T2 , gloves and boots are elemental alliance: T1.5 Armor. ( Lv 132 ) ?
The one you get with protector seals right is T__ , ?
Also, question : You get elven with protector seals = T2 ? And elemental alliance is : T1.5 and they drop from bosses and chests at the end of the bosses ? And T1 is alliance blue ? Correct?
Or i have it in totally wrong order...
I am missing elemental elven ..right?
Can someone please , explain to me, cos it seems i confused myself to the point i have no idea what i am doing. :P
I think talking about armor tier is archaic and only leads to confusion, I prefer using iLvl.
But yeah you could say T1 is alliance blue(130), T1.5 is elemental alliance purple(132), T2 is elven(135) and T2.5 is elemental elven (137).
130 drops from T1 dungeons and elemental seals, 132 drops from T2 dugeons. 135 you get with protector seals through massive grind fest and 137 you get from Black ice shaping your 135 at the cost of your 2 arms and your children's legs.
Thank you!!!!
So, by that... i have 1 helm ( 135 ) boots and gloves ( 132 ) and armor ( 130 )
thank you for clearing it for me.
Sincerely hoping that whoever thought this was a good idea is among those no longer working for Cryptic. To put top end gear behind such an obscenely long grind is a HUGE insult to the player base.
Besides the only place here u need that stuff is in the T2 dungeons, and yeah since they drop nothing els worth your time I cant really see the point.
I think you would do better with 132 stuff, since they don't have wasted stats.
My guild has finished eCC and eGWD, but we just run eToS over and over again. It's honestly gotten pretty trivial now, and it's easy for us to rotate people in and out so we can all get our daily caches. eCC and eGWD are fun, but they're just too much work to keep grinding through for those seals.
However, I wouldn't mind seeing them up the Protector Seal drops from the bosses. Maybe 4 per boss and 8 in the chest at the end for a total of 20. Because outside of getting the Protector's Cache once per day, it's tough to stay motivated enough to keep farming the dungeon over and over again unless I'm helping more guildmates get their cache.
I think you need to take the entire outfit into account and compare. Since the stats have been rearranged with most sets on purpose it seems. Either way, unless Menzoberanzan comes out with a tier 3 set, I don't think the tier 2 set is going anywhere fast.
Neither are a lot of others I know.
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79